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Mr. Dynasty1 said:
During a team meeting on Sunday, the UM coaching staff held the Hurricanes to that type of high standard.

9-23-19 Manny Diaz

Joe and Zach are joined by Manny Diaz and talk about the CMU game
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“We had a team meeting on Sunday and reviewed the film and its as a tough truth meeting,” Manny Diaz said on The Joe Rose Show on 560 The Joe. “We didn’t play very well on Saturday and we explored some of the reasons why. It is like when your children take a test and they pass the test, but they don’t get the grade that they wanted. You get to go back and explore some of the reasons why it happened. Let’s look in the mirror and find out who we really are.”

“There are penalties of great strain, effort, and aggression—like the penalty on Corey Gaynor on the sideline—if all our penalties were like that, then you’d live with it as a coach,” Diaz said. “But then you have selfish penalties

Diaz admitted that he saw poor habits during last week’s practice that carried into the Central Michigan game

“There will be competition at different spots across the team. We don’t want guys to feel comfortable, especially off of a performance like that


Take from it what you will.
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Do we need a players only meeting?
 
UMovement said:
We aren’t scoring any points, did he make Enos change the offense?
He gave Enos the keys so it’s on him, he fixes it or Manny gets a new OC.
Turnovers hurt us more than anything else last year so that is the major focus.
Both Enos and JW can open it up but they are both coaching/playing conservative and relying on the D because of TOs.
I suspect we will see more running from JW with a few more deep shots but not many with this OL.

We aren’t getting any pressure on the QB, did he make Baker change his fronts up?
We have a top 15 D that is emphasizing stopping the run this year and it’s effective - this is what Manny wants.
We still get pressure but it’s not where it needs to be. I’m really hoping Nesta and B. Bold kick things up a notch.

Baxa is missing every other FG, has he tried anybody else?
We went for it on 4th when we might of kicked with a reliable guy.
We should go for it more and try a new guy for close range.

There is absolutely ZERO evidence Manny will make changes. He lied about what kind of offense and defense he would run and hasn’t changed it yet
Manny has not lied, we’re just not as god as people think. There’s a lot of parity In college football now, not nearly as much separation in talent or performance which is witnessed every week. But this team is better than what we’ve seen.

I believe Manny is stressing the ‘playing through adversity’ mantra because he is trying to get rid of the ‘disease’ by making this team team stronger in it’s weakest areas. That’s the only way I can explain focusing on the run on D and playing power ball on O.
Miami is a much better finesse team but he wants this team to be better prepared for any and everything long term.

I’m not disagreeing with you, just having a discussion. This has been the best thread on here in a while.
But as a team, we’re just trying to learn how to win - we can’t dominate anybody.
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I get the run stopping thing, but Garvin covering guys in the passing game isn’t acceptable. It’s a lot more than just focusing on stopping the run.

If Manny really just handed the keys to a Enos and doesn’t care what he does then he needs to be fired today. No decent owner in let’s someone else burn down his business. If Manny can’t see that it isn’t working than that’s on him. He’s a head coach now, he’s in charge of the entire team, that includes the offense.

Going for it on 4th down all year is not a recipe for long term success. He should be giving someone else an opportunity to kick inside of 40 yards.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
I get the run stopping thing, but Garvin covering guys in the passing game isn’t acceptable. It’s a lot more than just focusing on stopping the run.

If Manny really just handed the keys to a Enos and doesn’t care what he does then he needs to be fired today. No decent owner in let’s someone else burn down his business. If Manny can’t see that it isn’t working than that’s on him. He’s a head coach now, he’s in charge of the entire team, that includes the offense.

Going for it on 4th down all year is not a recipe for long term success. He should be giving someone else an opportunity to kick inside of 40 yards.
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All good points, It is ultimately Manny’s responsibility; I just don’t think he is as hands on with the offense as he is with the D,
but definitely involved. My overall point is that everyone is learning but the expectation is mastery. I hope he has time to correct before the planes take off... again.
 
These meetings are usually ineffective unless they actually get players to quit the team, which is the only positive really, because need to purify.
 
1hurricane said:
There’s nothing emotional about my comment. The purpose of practice is to implement the game plan, answer questions the players might have and correct the mistakes you see the players making. Am I wrong??? So if the coach doesn’t correct those mistakes in practice what does that say about that coach? Oh and btw I don’t drink coffee
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Hypothetically, what if the coaches are stopping practice and making corrections, but the players aren't listening or continue to make those same mistakes in games? It seems more likely to me that we have been recruiting undisciplined players than 5 consecutive coaching staffs that don't know how to make corrections. These guys play like a bunch of individuals on a sandlot rather than as a team. That's why TEAMS with "inferior" talent continue to beat us.
 
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crossover22[]_[] said:
Lol name these positives and show stats to back them up.
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Wow, how about a QB with a 71% completion rate, 8TD passes, no INTs. (But you probably weren't one of those guys screaming we needed anybody but Rosier last year were you?).

Or how about a much better punting game 44.9 yard average 10 or 15 more than punter last year this time, field advantge has been way better compared to this time last year.

Every ball that's hit the turf in four games, except for the last one on offense Sat, the Canes have come up with - I saw two, where Florida guys had them first.

The program has a plan, not instant gratification plan, can't just wish for it, but a plan to build. The O-line we have to live with; Richt's recruits, bad last year young this year. Hopefully they will get better and we recruit the position better. It actually takes time.
 
Silver King said:
Wow, how about a QB with a 71% completion rate, 8TD passes, no INTs. (But you probably weren't one of those guys screaming we needed anybody but Rosier last year were you?).

Or how about a much better punting game 44.9 yard average 10 or 15 more than punter last year this time, field advantge has been way better compared to this time last year.

Every ball that's hit the turf in four games, except for the last one on offense Sat, the Canes have come up with - I saw two, where Florida guys had them first.

The program has a plan, not instant gratification plan, can't just wish for it, but a plan to build. The O-line we have to live with; Richt's recruits, bad last year young this year. Hopefully they will get better and we recruit the position better. It actually takes time.
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Ok so youre happy with completion percentage and punting instead of tds against inferior opponents?


So im gathering you think that manny needs years to recruit and build a balanced roster????

Problem is. Manny is not a high end recruiter.
 
The Svengali said:
Man, I really want to like Manny...I truly do. I want him to be a young dabo, but everytime he talks he becomes less believable and inspires even less confidence.

Starting to sound a lot like Golden and the team looks like a golden team (soft and uninspired). Publicly blaming the players after what we all saw is unfathomable.

The mistakes etc and lack of discipline are coaching issues, sir! 12-13 penalties is a coaching issue! ******** up in practice, but not holding the players accountable is a coaching issue!!

Too much coach speak from the guy, while putting out an inferior product. He’s really starting to grate on me
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It’s a tactic. We live in a social media age. Perhaps a public humiliation will provide motivation to some, moreso than keeping it in house. Not saying it’s a good tactic though.
 
Mr. Dynasty1 said:
During a team meeting on Sunday, the UM coaching staff held the Hurricanes to that type of high standard.

9-23-19 Manny Diaz

Joe and Zach are joined by Manny Diaz and talk about the CMU game
wqam.radio.com wqam.radio.com



“We had a team meeting on Sunday and reviewed the film and its as a tough truth meeting,” Manny Diaz said on The Joe Rose Show on 560 The Joe. “We didn’t play very well on Saturday and we explored some of the reasons why. It is like when your children take a test and they pass the test, but they don’t get the grade that they wanted. You get to go back and explore some of the reasons why it happened. Let’s look in the mirror and find out who we really are.”

“There are penalties of great strain, effort, and aggression—like the penalty on Corey Gaynor on the sideline—if all our penalties were like that, then you’d live with it as a coach,” Diaz said. “But then you have selfish penalties

Diaz admitted that he saw poor habits during last week’s practice that carried into the Central Michigan game

“There will be competition at different spots across the team. We don’t want guys to feel comfortable, especially off of a performance like that


Take from it what you will.
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he saw the problem and did nothing about it. If he truly demanded excellence from EVERYONE in the program we wouldn't look like we do.
 
Serious question.

What responses would make people here happy?

It's his job to make them better, but how good are they really? Players don't make mistakes that cause penalties on purpose, so are they lazy, not talented, just trying to make a big play, or flat out dumb? What do you do in those situations if it's the best you've got?

Manny and company know football. They know more than 99 percent of this board. They know what goes on at practice, what they've got to work with. They might not be the best teachers, they might be great teachers of the game. It's probably somewhere in the middle.

So what would make the sad souls here happy. Sad lot the bunch of you.
 
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Buckle up fellas! I think we’re in trouble. Hope I’m wrong, but lets at least buckle up and be safe just in case.
 
soddyCane said:
Yep. A certain kind of dumb that has been a coach. If you see mistakes happening in practice, you stop and fix them. You show them what you want them to do and how you want them to do it. You can't expect the mistakes to magically go away once you get into the game.
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Manny seems too nice. It's okay to let them know you love them but you can't accept a lack of commitment to practice and preparation.
This is squarely on him and he would do well to take responsibility for not acting on what he saw in practice, and by acting I mean benching. When you sit a guy for dogging it in practice you set the standard.
 
SayWhat said:
Serious question.

What responses would make people here happy?

It's his job to make them better, but how good are they really? Players don't make mistakes that cause penalties on purpose, so are they lazy, not talented, just trying to make a big play, or flat out dumb? What do you do in those situations if it's the best you've got?

Manny and company know football. They know more than 99 percent of this board. They know what goes on at practice, what they've got to work with. They might not be the best teachers, they might be great teachers of the game. It's probably somewhere in the middle.

So what would make the sad souls here happy. Sad lot the bunch of you.
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I know what you're saying, but let's be real here. One of Manny's strengths has been that "he says all the right things." Well, today he didn't. It's fine to say, "We've got to get better, we've got to practice harder, we've got to make sure every player is doing his job, etc."

But when you're 2-2 and just scraped by CMU at home you don't say, "We saw some bad habits in practice and they carried over into the game," or whatever he said. That's not a good look. You just can't expect that to play well with the public.
 
Tad Footeball said:
Obviously you don't want stupid penalties but I am soooooo beyond sick of corches always going to that bucket of corchspeak first when explaining why their teams sucks. As if all would be solved if only their team would stop with the "selfish" penalties.

It's not even just Manny here but a pervasive tactic used by corches on all levels. They'd all be undefeated if their teams would just cut down on dumb penalties and protect the ball.
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Watch Harbaugh's last presser. First 3 minutes...Dude kept it 💯

All the "heart--to--heart" talk from Manny; as if it's gonna magically fix a problem he didn't respond to.
Nobody needs to hear that nonsense. There needs to be accountability and level-setting.

 
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