Top 5 coaches who would come to Miami

[Andrew]

I think in these days it is better to have an offensive minded HC. Nothing helps your defense more than scoring points. Look at school like Baylor, TCU, Ohio State, and Utah. It has been proven you can win the ship with Randy Shannon as your DC under the right head coach.

Drew, I've heard all my life - "Defense wins games, Offense packs stadiums."

The Pirate has had offenses, but he couldn't buy a defensive coordinator to save his skin.

The other thing is your offense practices against your defense, and vice-versa. It was our great defenses that made our offenses great, and our great offenses that made our defenses great.

BBB.

I think times have changed. I don't think we should have a terrible defense but I think you get a lot more out of an offensive coach. TCU did not win last year because of Gary Patterson, they won because they got some solid OC's. Just follow Texas for the rest of the season and see what a defensive coach gets you.

 

[DiegoCane]

I think in these days it is better to have an offensive minded HC. Nothing helps your defense more than scoring points. Look at school like Baylor, TCU, Ohio State, and Utah. It has been proven you can win the ship with Randy Shannon as your DC under the right head coach.

Agree with your point but only 1 of those coaches, Briles, specialty is offense. Patterson and Whittingham are D, Meyer is STs.

 

[DMoney]

Folden didn't have great data. That's where you're missing the boat. Folden was smoke and mirrors. He never won anything at Temple. Never beat any good teams. Recruited better than anyone in the MAC and never won the conference.

This is hindsight. At the time, you lauded Golden's resume. So did I. So did everyone. If he won at a place like Temple, he'd stack trophies at Miami.

Fuente could be great but I'm worried that he hasn't experienced Power 5 football. I want a guy who knows what it's like to coach, recruit and evaluate at that level.

 

[Andrew]

I think in these days it is better to have an offensive minded HC. Nothing helps your defense more than scoring points. Look at school like Baylor, TCU, Ohio State, and Utah. It has been proven you can win the ship with Randy Shannon as your DC under the right head coach.

Agree with your point but only 1 of those coaches, Briles, specialty is offense. Patterson and Whittingham are D, Meyer is STs.

Patterson isn't winning because of his defense, but rather he went out and hired 2 OC's. What happens when these guys get HC's gigs?

Utah has Ericson and 2 OC's. Ohio State has Urban Myer who is a **** football genius.

 

[Pro239]

This ship is like the Titanic, going down deep, and we see the bottom. Lets focus on getting a coach who has something to prove. Any thoughts, forget about Al, I want names please.

Cristobal

 

[01Canes]

Folden didn't have great data. That's where you're missing the boat. Folden was smoke and mirrors. He never won anything at Temple. Never beat any good teams. Recruited better than anyone in the MAC and never won the conference.

This is hindsight. At the time, you lauded Golden's resume. So did I. So did everyone. If he won at a place like Temple, he'd stack trophies at Miami.

Fuente could be great but I'm worried that he hasn't experienced Power 5 football. I want a guy who knows what it's like to coach, recruit and evaluate at that level.

I feel the same way about Fuente. He's doing a really nice job at Memphis, but I wouldn't feel comfortable if he's a finalist for the eventual vacancy.

Fuente has never coached in the Power 5, never dealt with annually high expectations, and has never experienced having to battle with the big boys for premier talent. You make a great point about how he's never had to evaluate at this level either. Having never coached in the Power 5 is the biggest concern. But while recruiting cannot be the #1 selling point for any potential candidate (IMO), it certainly can't be ignored altogether either. I view him as too much of a gamble.

 

[01Canes]

On an unrelated note, if I see another poster non-ironically vouch for Cristobal to be the next coach at Miami, I'm going to lose my f***ing mind.

 

[brock]

One thing for sure if Jeremy Pruitt was in contention he will immediately push for Miami to upgrade their facilities and their infrastructure even more. He went offthe administration of Uga for not having one. Months later they announced they were building one after his comments...

 

[Consigliere]

Fuente just won his 12th straight game.

 

[DREW!]

Yea, the more I research and look up stuff, the more Fuente starts becoming really appealing to me. He was recruited to Oklahoma by the man himself. ..Howard Schnellenberger. ..

 

[FrancisSawyer]

1) Butch
2) Chud
3) Herman
4) Fuente
5) Morris

Chip Kelly is a pipe dream. I don't know why people keep bringing him up.

Cristobal brings nothing to the table outside of his ability to recruit. Cristobal would be a boring and uninspiring hire. I'm tired of seeing his name always come up as though he has ever proven to be anything other than a glorified recruiting coordinator.

The love affair with Mike Leach is also a mystery to me. The whole " Hey guys just imagine Leach's offense with South Florida athletes" line is way overblown and his defenses always suck.

Charlie Strong is another one that I'm far from sold on. I don't dislike him but I'm not entirely convinced that his success at UL was not just a function of having Teddy along with a garbage schedule.

Lane Kiffin is a headcaae that I don't want anywhere near this program.

Jeremy Pruitt is a very intriguing candidate. I love his resume and like his defensive philosophy even better. The lack of HC experience takes so e of the shine off of him though.

 

[DiegoCane]

I think in these days it is better to have an offensive minded HC. Nothing helps your defense more than scoring points. Look at school like Baylor, TCU, Ohio State, and Utah. It has been proven you can win the ship with Randy Shannon as your DC under the right head coach.

Agree with your point but only 1 of those coaches, Briles, specialty is offense. Patterson and Whittingham are D, Meyer is STs.

Patterson isn't winning because of his defense, but rather he went out and hired 2 OC's. What happens when these guys get HC's gigs?

Utah has Ericson and 2 OC's. Ohio State has Urban Myer who is a **** football genius.

He won big before this recent stretch without his current OCs. He realized he needed to adapt and did. He's the perfect mix, a defensive coach who isn't conservative offensively and doesn't give a **** where his D is ranked.



I do agree with you though, we need a coach that will open it up offensively. Want nothing to do with an archaic offense.

 

[dwyne]

crazy idea... charlie strong, he is as good as gone in texas

 

[The Franchise]

Folden didn't have great data. That's where you're missing the boat. Folden was smoke and mirrors. He never won anything at Temple. Never beat any good teams. Recruited better than anyone in the MAC and never won the conference.

This is hindsight. At the time, you lauded Golden's resume. So did I. So did everyone. If he won at a place like Temple, he'd stack trophies at Miami.

Fuente could be great but I'm worried that he hasn't experienced Power 5 football. I want a guy who knows what it's like to coach, recruit and evaluate at that level.

Trying to rally around a hire is different than lauding his résumé. What choice did we have after Folden was hired other than to try to point out some positives and hope for the best?

Call it hindsight all you want, but there was never anything noteworthy about Folden's résumé. I'm not sure what "experiencing power 5 football" means or how it's a particularly relevant idea. Fuente played power 5 football. He learned his craft under one of the best HCs in the game--Patterson.

Urban Meyer started at Bowling Green. Then, he went to Utah. People who tried to criticize his hire at UF used to say stuff like "that gimmick offense will never work in the SEC".

Harbaugh started out at D2 San Diego. He transitioned easily to power 5 football. You know why? Because he's a boss. At the end of the day, either you're a boss, or you ain't. Doesn't matter where you had your first job. Either you're a boss, or you ain't.

You can't be gun shy of lower level HCs just because Folden sucks dyck. Look at him and what he actually did and his style of play and personality. Never a fit.

 

[canesrdynamite]

To me Mark Stoops still seems worth a shot. *shrug* Winning at UK is **** near impossible, and he's had a few years to learn what it takes to be a head coach. And he's hungry to win.

Ohio State has Urban Myer who is a **** football genius.

Didn't think I could hate that guy more when he was at UF. I was wrong. F that guy and his quarterback magic.

 

[Klamalama]

Butch Davis

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Firing Day is 59 away.

Funeral March for Fraulden The Incompetent

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[Consigliere]

crazy idea... charlie strong, he is as good as gone in texas

Crazy bad.

 

[Consigliere]

Folden didn't have great data. That's where you're missing the boat. Folden was smoke and mirrors. He never won anything at Temple. Never beat any good teams. Recruited better than anyone in the MAC and never won the conference.

This is hindsight. At the time, you lauded Golden's resume. So did I. So did everyone. If he won at a place like Temple, he'd stack trophies at Miami.

Fuente could be great but I'm worried that he hasn't experienced Power 5 football. I want a guy who knows what it's like to coach, recruit and evaluate at that level.

Trying to rally around a hire is different than lauding his résumé. What choice did we have after Folden was hired other than to try to point out some positives and hope for the best?

Call it hindsight all you want, but there was never anything noteworthy about Folden's résumé. I'm not sure what "experiencing power 5 football" means or how it's a particularly relevant idea. Fuente played power 5 football. He learned his craft under one of the best HCs in the game--Patterson.

Urban Meyer started at Bowling Green. Then, he went to Utah. People who tried to criticize his hire at UF used to say stuff like "that gimmick offense will never work in the SEC".

Harbaugh started out at D2 San Diego. He transitioned easily to power 5 football. You know why? Because he's a boss. At the end of the day, either you're a boss, or you ain't. Doesn't matter where you had your first job. Either you're a boss, or you ain't.

You can't be gun shy of lower level HCs just because Folden sucks dyck. Look at him and what he actually did and his style of play and personality. Never a fit.

Plus 2.76

I would also like to add Patterson never had P5 experience before TCU. Golden and RS had P5 experience.

You either win or not.

 

[DMoney]

Trying to rally around a hire is different than lauding his résumé. What choice did we have after Folden was hired other than to try to point out some positives and hope for the best?

You were talking up Golden on RCT before Shannon even got canned. The reason I remember is because I had never heard of Golden before reading your posts. I'm not knocking you one bit - I was just as impressed when I looked into his background.

As for Meyer, he spent several years at Ohio State and Notre Dame. Harbaugh grew up around the Michigan program. I'm not saying Fuente can't figure out big-time football. But does he know the caliber of player he'll be going against weekly? Does he know the caliber of athlete he needs to recruit? Does he know how dirty the recruiting game gets?

You are your background. Golden has made us into a Penn State knockoff that performs like Virginia and starts Temple players at safety. I thought he would adapt. He didn't. Fuente could be the next Meyer or the next Dan Hawkins. There's a risk there just like there is with Pruitt.

 

[Category81]

DMoney do you think Butch is a realistic option and do you think he's someone the BoT will pursue when Golden gets the boot at the end of the year?

Would he be a good hire?