Top 5 coaches who would come to Miami

[AUcane]

Get results and anyone can recruit at Miami. That "recruiter" tag is way overplayed.

Folden was known as one of the best recruiters in the country when he was an assistant. Just like Pruitt. Pruitt might turn out to be a great HC, but what has he done to make anyone think he will?

This. Recruiters are a dime a dozen - we've had them here..

 

[DMoney]

They were a monster defense when he took over. #2 in total defense in 2012, #3 in total defense in 2013 (under Pruitt).

How was Georgia when he got there?

This. Recruiters are a dime a dozen - we've had them here..

Pruitt is not a recruiter. James Coley is a recruiter. Pruitt is an elite coordinator who happens to be an elite recruiter. Perfect combination for a head coach.

 

[DiegoCane]

They were a monster defense when he took over. #2 in total defense in 2012, #3 in total defense in 2013 (under Pruitt).

How was Georgia when he got there?

This. Recruiters are a dime a dozen - we've had them here..

Pruitt is not a recruiter. James Coley is a recruiter. Pruitt is an elite coordinator who happens to be an elite recruiter. Perfect combination for a head coach.

I didn't say anything about Georgia. Georgia was bad defensively, had an awful DC. UGA always has talent.

But bringing up Pruitt as if he worked wonders at FSU is disingenuous. And I think saying Pruitt is an elite coordinator is a bit premature.

What's his offensive philosophy? He has worked under Saban, Jimbo, Richt.

 

[Consigliere]

But those mid-major guys are just as risky when they jump up a level. We know that better than anyone.

The great, established head coaches like Briles or Patterson are pipe dreams. Herman gives you a nice blend of big-program experience and upside, but he's just one guy.

Who is on your list?

Golden NEVER accomplished what we NEEDED. Golden didn't dominate the MAC, he never even won the conference. Sure he did something decent at Temple but it wasn't anything special. He wasn't ready for a BCS program of Miami caliber.

Here is a name.

Justin Fuente: For those that don't know, Memphis was a train wreck before he arrived. Memphis won 5 games combined in the previous 3 seasons before he arrived. They won 2 conference games during that time. They also finished last in their conference each of those seasons. Memphis was awful. This guy has the background, learning under Gary Patterson and is an offensive guru.

In 2014, he had an impressive season. He won 10 games, the conference and beat BYU in the bowl game. The 2014 season definitely earn him the spot-light as a prime coaching candidate. The question is, in 2015, would he repeat the success? At 4-0, it appears he is on pace to have similar success. In fact, Memphis may be ranked going into Ole Miss.

I know people will complain about his defense, but in 2014 and 2013 Memphis had a good defense:

2014:
Scoring D: 11th (19.5 PG)
Total D: 27th (349.5 PG)

2013:
Scoring D: 44th (24.6 PG)
Total D: 39th (370.7 PG)

The difference in 2015, Memphis lost their DC to Missouri and had to replace 8 defensive starters. This is Memphis, it isn't exactly an easy thing to reload with quality talent. I wouldn't say these are "excuses" because he has won every game this season and 11 games in a row. Big games against Ole Miss and Houston on the horizon. If Fuente wins the conference in 2015 with 10 regular season wins, he is a name that should be at the top of the list for Miami.

 

[CanesAreAble]

He's an elite DC, he's young and ambitious, and he's the best recruiter in the country. The only knock I see is a lack of head coaching experience. There's validity to that, but plenty of coordinators have become hugely successful coaches. Jimbo is doing just fine up north.

There's a risk with any coach. We focused on guys with HC experience last time, and we ended up interviewing duds. One thing I like about Pruitt is that he knows what it takes. Golden cut his teeth at places like Boston College and Virginia. Pruitt's entire college career has been spent at Alabama, FSU and Georgia. All he knows is Southern savagery and high expectations.

I'd take Pruitt, but personally I want an offensive coach. That's just the way the game is being played right now. Nobody has a smothering defense. An offensive coach with an aggressive philosophy and an understanding of south Florida high school football should be able to field good defenses. The same can be said for a defensive coach, but I'd rather have the consistency/expertise on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[DMoney]

But bringing up Pruitt as if he worked wonders at FSU is disingenuous.

He inherited a great defense, but he finished 1st in scoring defense and won a title. Not much more he could've done. What I like about his FSU experience is that he adapted his Saban-influenced 3-4 scheme to speedy Florida athletes. The system was completely different from Stoops' conservative 4-3, and they still dominated.

And I think saying Pruitt is an elite coordinator is a bit premature.

His work at Georgia proved he's elite, IMO.

The signature of his defenses is creating turnovers. Georgia went from 118th in takeaways to 15th. FSU with Stoops' conservative scheme was 85th in takeaways. With Pruitt? They finished 2nd.

What's his offensive philosophy? He has worked under Saban, Jimbo, Richt.

If he's anything like those guys, it will be pro-style. Which is a good fit for our personnel, especially if we keep Jack Allison. I think Pruitt can step right in and turn our scared 3-4 into a menacing, turnover-producing 3-4. And Kaaya will hold down the offense.

I like the short-term fit and the long-term fit.

 

[Dwinstitles]

butch


but this program is butthurt cuz he left but made the U known in the early 2000s.......everyone that didnt care for cfb knew the U had ballers because of butch. its an easy hire n miami will be retarded n make it a difficult one

 

[DiegoCane]

But bringing up Pruitt as if he worked wonders at FSU is disingenuous.

He inherited a great defense, but he finished 1st in scoring defense and won a title. Not much more he could've done. What I like about his FSU experience is that he adapted his Saban-influenced 3-4 scheme to speedy Florida athletes. The system was completely different from Stoops' conservative 4-3, and they still dominated.

And I think saying Pruitt is an elite coordinator is a bit premature.

His work at Georgia proved he's elite, IMO.

The signature of his defenses is creating turnovers. Georgia went from 118th in takeaways to 15th. FSU with Stoops' conservative scheme was 85th in takeaways. With Pruitt? They finished 2nd.

What's his offensive philosophy? He has worked under Saban, Jimbo, Richt.

If he's anything like those guys, it will be pro-style. Which is a good fit for our personnel, especially if we keep Jack Allison. I think Pruitt can step right in and turn our scared 3-4 into a menacing, turnover-producing 3-4. And Kaaya will hold down the offense.

I like the short-term fit and the long-term fit.

You lost me at pro-style offense which unfortunately I expected. Offense and spreading people out is the name of the game.

It shouldn't even be called pro-style anymore, best NFL offenses (GB and Pats) spread you out, take advantage of matchups, and let the QB work.

FWIW, I do like his philosophy defensively.

 

[mirednmediocrity2]

Why torture yourselves?

The university has already decided to tank the program.

AGREED!

 

[DMoney]

You lost me at pro-style offense which unfortunately I expected. Offense and spreading people out is the name of the game.

I'd take Pruitt, but personally I want an offensive coach. That's just the way the game is being played right now.

People say this a lot, but I don't think it's true.

How did we win in 2001? How did OSU win in 2002? How did LSU win in 2003 and 2007? How did USC win in 2004? How did Alabama win in 2009, 2011 and 2012? How did FSU win in 2014?

Pro style offense. Smothering defense.

The "evolution of the game" is overstated, IMO. Oregon is still waiting for its first title. Give me a dominant defense and a pro-style offense that can run and pass.

 

[theu852]

butch davis
doc holliday
charlie strong

Wow Doc and Strong, amazing.

you dont think doc holliday could bring the state of miami back? doc holliday raped us in recruiting when he was at florida and has almost 40 years coaching experience. he has ties up the ars when it comes to south florida plus he was part of an urban meyer coaching tree. he knows how a program needs to be run

 

[CaneandAbel]

Butch Davis
Tom Herman
Charlie Strong(if Fired)
Jeremy Pruitt
Chad Morris/Rich Rod

Honorable mention: Jim Tressel

 

[CanesAreAble]

You lost me at pro-style offense which unfortunately I expected. Offense and spreading people out is the name of the game.

I'd take Pruitt, but personally I want an offensive coach. That's just the way the game is being played right now.

People say this a lot, but I don't think it's true.

How did we win in 2001? How did OSU win in 2002? How did LSU win in 2003 and 2007? How did USC win in 2004? How did Alabama win in 2009, 2011 and 2012? How did FSU win in 2014?

Pro style offense. Smothering defense.

The "evolution of the game" is overstated, IMO. Oregon is still waiting for its first title. Give me a dominant defense and a pro-style offense that can run and pass.

But nobody is playing smothering defense right now. Not even Bama. They've been shredded by up-tempo spreads quite a few times recently. I'm not averse to running a pro style offense, but almost every national champion since 2005 has run some variation of the spread.

I just prefer an offensive coach who wants an aggressive defense. For example, when Chip was at Oregon, he ran an attacking 3-4 that forced a ton of sacks and turnovers. And that was with Oregon talent.

That said, I would take Pruitt, and I think he'd do well.

 

[01Canes]

Pruitt's a much more appealing candidate than a retread coming off an embarrassing head-coaching tenure like Schiano/Kiffin or a guy like Cristobal, who's the nightmare scenario poster boy as a position coach this useless administration would hire because he's a cheap, uninspiring, unqualified hack with "South Florida ties," bro.

But I'd hope Pruitt would be just a fallback option if Herman can't be lured away from Houston for whatever reason. Or if the admin is too stubborn to get over Butch moving upward in his career to coach in the pros 15 years ago. Or if other more proven candidates who may cost more don't emerge in the next 2/3rds of the season.

Pruitt doesn't get a "**** no" from me right now, and I'm not opposed to taking a risk on a Southern savage with upside if the alternatives are the 2015 equivalent of Golden/Edsall/Trestman. But I'd prefer he be a fallback option in a tier or two below Herman/Butch. And I completely understand those who are wary of taking such a chance on someone without head-coaching experience.

 

[deerob305]

My list would be in Order..
1. Rod Chudzinski
2. Jeremy Pruitt
3. Charlie Strong
4.Butch Davis
5. Mario Cristobal
5.

 

[01Canes]

My list would be in Order..
1. Rod Chudzinski
2. Jeremy Pruitt
3. Charlie Strong
4.Butch Davis
5. Mario Cristobal
5.

Please name one reason why Mario Cristobal would be a better candidate than Tom Herman other than the wildly overrated talking point of having South Florida ties.

 

[accomadus]

Pruitt
Stitt
Herman
Chud
Kelly, when Philly fires his *** -- make him priority 1
Jedd Fisch -


Honorable Mention: im still a big fan of Philip Montgomery. He's from the Art Briles tree and knows how to coach.
You want an affordable offensive guru? This is your man. We'd drop 80 at the half on teams with SFL talent.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

butch


but this program is butthurt cuz he left but made the U known in the early 2000s.......everyone that didnt care for cfb knew the U had ballers because of butch. its an easy hire n miami will be retarded n make it a difficult one

It's the easy and obvious choice.

 

[DiegoCane]

People say this a lot, but I don't think it's true.

How did we win in 2001? How did OSU win in 2002? How did LSU win in 2003 and 2007? How did USC win in 2004? How did Alabama win in 2009, 2011 and 2012? How did FSU win in 2014?

Pro style offense. Smothering defense.

The "evolution of the game" is overstated, IMO. Oregon is still waiting for its first title. Give me a dominant defense and a pro-style offense that can run and pass.

The game has changed a lot in the last 5 year. Saban cries to the media about how fast offenses run now and he can't even stop them. Patterson, who I think is one of the best coaches in America, completely changed his philosophy because of it.

I'm tired of being behind the curve, Miami was built on innovation and its embarrassing where we are now. The talent we have available and with that offenses, it's a match made in heaven.

The fact that teams like Oregon, TCU, Baylor are even in the National Championship discussion tells you all you need to know about the advantages that offense is. The offense recruits itself as well, kids want to score points and put up numbers.

If you don't want to score 50 every time out, then you aren't a candidate I want.

 

[Consigliere]

Pruitt's a much more appealing candidate than a retread coming off an embarrassing head-coaching tenure like Schiano/Kiffin or a guy like Cristobal, who's the nightmare scenario poster boy as a position coach this useless administration would hire because he's a cheap, uninspiring, unqualified hack with "South Florida ties," bro.

But I'd hope Pruitt would be just a fallback option if Herman can't be lured away from Houston for whatever reason. Or if the admin is too stubborn to get over Butch moving upward in his career to coach in the pros 15 years ago. Or if other more proven candidates who may cost more don't emerge in the next 2/3rds of the season.

Pruitt doesn't get a "**** no" from me right now, and I'm not opposed to taking a risk on a Southern savage with upside if the alternatives are the 2015 equivalent of Golden/Edsall/Trestman. But I'd prefer he be a fallback option in a tier or two below Herman/Butch. And I completely understand those who are wary of taking such a chance on someone without head-coaching experience.

Pruitt above Fuente?