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simplycanes said:
at his best when you spread teams the **** out, use a little pace, and let him eat
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Zbrod95 said:
So I should excuse him for his ****** 3rd and 10 throw to X that caused us to kick a field goal? Lost a TD by any competent QB because of that

I should excuse him for giving gu gu eyes to a UNC LB and still deciding to throw…btw that directly lead to a TD.

I should excuse him for throwing it into the back pad of a UNC DB when Isaiah Horton was open for the first down on 4th & 10? Couldn’t kick at least a field goal because of that.

I should excuse him for the countless sacks he took when he could’ve just simply threw it away?

All because he actually decided to play after we were down 21 points? Maybe he shouldn’t have been responsible for a 14-21 point swing in the score last night

I could keep going too. I was just pointing out the obvious ****.

Btw How many points did we lose by last night? Ohh right…10.
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UM fans are such miserable *****.

TVD wasn't perfect by any means but he wasn't the sole reason we lost you seem to want to believe.

The entire team had a hand in blowing the game. Three TOs (ignoring the last play of the game throw) ..... one by Parrish, one by Lee, and one by TVD which was a solid play by an AA LB. JW20 had a similar opportunity and didn't make the INT.

You want to blame the GT loss on his 3 INTs ... that's more realistic than the drivel you typed out about this game.
 
simplycanes said:
It doesn't matter what the fans think about TVD, because our success this season is inextricably linked to his play. That being the case, TVD is at his best when you spread teams the **** out, use a little pace, and let him eat in the RPO game to setup the downfield throws for which he really excels.

If you want good TVD, use the **** hashes and move your talent around the formation so every position on the field is a threat. Added bonus for the Meathead is that there is no way a light box can defend the run against our OL.

You want bad TVD? Tighten your formations, make the run vs. pass obvious to the defense, leave Restrepo in the slot and bring in TE and WR you never throw to, even when the defense doesn't cover them.

TVD has his ups and downs, but to me, the coaching decisions drive a lot of how badly those go.
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Bravo
 
MumbleRap said:
Prisoner of the moment. Kaaya was 1-7 vs ranked teams. Lost his first 7 games vs ranked opponents and didn’t get first ranked W until his 38th start

In those 7 games he had 249 YPG, 13 TDs & 8 INTs - averaged 19PPG

In comparison, TVD is 3-2 vs ranked teams.
In those 5 games he has 342 YPG, 16TDs & 3INTs - averages 31 PPG
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Nah those are team stats my brother. QBs don’t play by themselves. Put kaya on this team and we routing Unc! We don’t lose to ga tech. How many wtf games has kaya had vs tvd.

His good is great but his bad is awfully bad.
 
rberryjr said:
Nah those are team stats my brother. QBs don’t play by themselves. Put kaya on this team and we routing Unc! We don’t lose to ga tech. How many wtf games has kaya had vs tvd.

His good is great but his bad is awfully bad.
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See you say that… yet the players and weapons Kaaya had were twice as good during his 3 years here, yet he was 1-7 vs ranked teams. So do we rout UNC?
 
MumbleRap said:
See you say that… yet the players and weapons Kaaya had were twice as good during his 3 years here, yet he was 1-7 vs ranked teams. So do we rout UNC?
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Yea I disagree. Kaya had Golden and No D. This was an era of wasted talent all over the team. This team this year wins if tvd doesn’t **** the bed. That’s my point of bringing up kaya.
 
rberryjr said:
Yea I disagree. Kaya had Golden and No D. This was an era of wasted talent all over the team. This team this year wins if tvd doesn’t **** the bed. That’s my point of bringing up kaya.
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I think you’re forgetting Kaaya in the clutch…

2014 FSU - 13 point halftime lead
2H - 6/17 81 yards 1INT

2015 FSU - Noles take lead with 6 mins left
Last two drives with chance to win? 4/10 47 yards, no points

2016 FSU - 10 point halftime lead
2H - 5/11 52 total yards, 1TD & 1INT
 
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I mean TVD has limitations. No fan can be happy with how he's played the last two games because it's been bad. TVSD's problem is that he gets locked into one WR, typically Restrepo. TVD constantly tries to thread the needle to Restrepo and misses many open guys. In the UNC game, he missed Horton and George several times. TVD needs to start spreading the ball to all his playmakers. George, Smith, Harrel, Hortan. Ray Ray and Arrayo should all be getting the ball more. TVD also shows no emotion. It genuinely looks like he wants to kill himself when he's on the football field
 
Zbrod95 said:
So I should excuse him for his ****** 3rd and 10 throw to X that caused us to kick a field goal? Lost a TD by any competent QB because of that

I should excuse him for giving gu gu eyes to a UNC LB and still deciding to throw…btw that directly lead to a TD.

I should excuse him for throwing it into the back pad of a UNC DB when Isaiah Horton was open for the first down on 4th & 10? Couldn’t kick at least a field goal because of that.

I should excuse him for the countless sacks he took when he could’ve just simply threw it away?

All because he actually decided to play after we were down 21 points? Maybe he shouldn’t have been responsible for a 14-21 point swing in the score last night

I could keep going too. I was just pointing out the obvious ****.

Btw How many points did we lose by last night? Ohh right…10.
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So out of the ACC, where does TVD rank to you?
 
Canesms20 said:
I mean TVD has limitations. No fan can be happy with how he's played the last two games because it's been bad. TVSD's problem is that he gets locked into one WR, typically Restrepo. TVD constantly tries to thread the needle to Restrepo and misses many open guys. In the UNC game, he missed Horton and George several times. TVD needs to start spreading the ball to all his playmakers. George, Smith, Harrel, Hortan. Ray Ray and Arrayo should all be getting the ball more. TVD also shows no emotion. It genuinely looks like he wants to kill himself when he's on the football field
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This. I like TVD. I'm rooting hard for him to succeed. But the INTs that are a result of locking on to Restrepo are absolutely part of the problem. He's not the sole reason we lost the last 2 games but the INTs are a problem.

One thing I would like to know is whether he is allowed to check out of a pass play when the defense shows a 5 man box and are defending against the deep ball. There have been a few instances the last two games where the defense was basically daring us to run but the called play was a deep throw and unsurprisingly, no one was open.
 
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JimmyJohnsonsHair said:
This. I like TVD. I'm rooting hard for him to succeed. But the INTs that are a result of locking on to Restrepo are absolutely part of the problem. He's not the sole reason we lost the last 2 games but the INTs area a problem.

One thing I would like to know is whether he is allowed to check out of a pass play when the defense shows a 5 man box and are defending against the deep ball. There have been a few instances the last two games where the defense was basically daring us to run but the called play was a deep throw and unsurprisingly, no one was open.
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TVD has mentioned several times in his pressers Dawson has given him the freedom to change the play. I don’t know that I’ve seen him change a play many times.
 
hydro66 said:
TVD is a good QB. The problem is our defense up front and the DB'S. Tvd ain't going nowhere. Who would replace him.. through him under the bus. Yes LOTS of morons on this board
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Where you tailgate at, I will show you a moron; you can get the **** on with #9 since you like him so much
 
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