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BS85 said:
When something like this happens will Mario tell someone (hypothetically Gattis) now that they'll be fired at the end of year? And if so, will Mario tell or strongly hint that Gattis will be gone to recruits now as well since I'm sure they all hate the offense?
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What would be the point of keeping him, especially since Mario constantly talks about culture. Why have a guy stay that‘s not a good fit.
 
Cribby said:
I‘m not coming in here and wasting my time and yours posting the same ole drivel about breakdowns, pro’s & cons , who stood out and how I’m feeling as a fan. Nobody wants to read that and tbh I don’t feel like writing it. The game was what it was and so is the season. I’m over it all and I have no emotion about it either way. Nothing was shocking last night and that’s why it was easy for me to turn it off in the third quarter, as if I’ve been watching a bad movie. No anger , sadness or embarrassment. Just another horrible performance on a Saturday. Oh well.

This thread is more about the longterm health of the program and the countless issues staring it in the face . I’m going to make this short and sweet with no sugarcoating.

First and foremost this staff needs changes. Multiple coaches HAVE TO BE GONE!! If not the class will lose guys and current recruits will give Miami no shot. Program changing type recruits Including guys committed. That’s not opinion , that’s purely fact. Nobody wants to play for some of these coaches or their scheme.

We have of a staff of individuals instead of a staff. Coaches that care more about their ego, protecting their brand and moving up in coaching circles versus actually teaching and building relationships. Coaches that came here because they were butthurt at their other job, or had issues with their previous HC’s. When you have coaches leaking crap out or giving quotes throwing players under the bus to cover your own *** you lose the position room. Trust and respect go a long way in coaching and we lack that as a staff. This is far more than horrible coaching , it goes all the way down to recruiting. There’s only a few guys carrying the water and others that think just by showing up to the games everything is Gucci. “You‘ve been recruited , I’ve done my part“ lol.

Yes we have a bad culture , quitters on the roster and lack talent but the issues are much bigger than that. It’s much deeper. There’s toxicity every where and the on field product shows. Chemistry on a staff is just as important as chemistry with a locker room.
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I see more staff on the sidelines with clueless expressions than I’ve ever seen.
 
STEP 1: Fire Gattis (sooner the better)

STEP 2: Identify the OC you want that fits your philosophy (that philosophy better look more like Tenn and nothing like what we have today)

STEP 3: Allow that OC to bring any assistant necessary (Mirabal is the only individual who is untouchable...the rest are expendable and necessary casualties)

STEP 4: Hire that OC and his assistants (quickly...before early signing period)

STEP 5: Get the **** out of his way and let the OC do his job.

It's not that difficult, but this is Miami and we will find a way to fack this up.
 
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GonzoCane said:
What would be the point of keeping him, especially since Mario constantly talks about culture. Why have a guy stay that‘s not a good fit.
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I don't want Mario to keep him but coaches usually wait until the end of the year to fire someone. I basically just want to figure out when recruits can find out for sure so Mario can sell the next OC and hopefully sell a modern offense.
 
Cribby said:
He’s brought guys from Oregon, OL coach and Wr coach who was also the co oc. That’s just offense alone. I can’t imagine that helped with hiring guys, especially guys who have their own coaches / staffs.
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You would know this answer. Any OC he interviewed asked what his philosophy would be, correct. Mario said, run it down the opposition throats. They look at our O line and say, no thanks.
 
@Cribby all of that is on full display, there are no questions, but isn't that all really a Mario problem?

Dropping it on assistants is something we've all seen before and it never gets corrected.

No matter what the issues are, getting his staff to be merely functional enough to have a competent product is not too great an ask. It doesn't mean he wins 10 games, it means he wins 7 or 8 and survives "Year 1."

Right now I have to question what it is we're rebuilding, a program or the head coach again?

I feel like we bought a coach who has already peaked and is coming back to what he really is-- a guy who was fired by FIU and never really tackled any adversity before.
 
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How does one move their way up in the coaching ranks by not teaching but rather working on their brand? Doesn’t make any sense but I guess that works. Because we got stuck with a bunch of guys that can’t coach.
 
jed2410 said:
We have a TON of issues that SHOULD lead to new coaches in the offseason, but the hiring of position coaches before OCs is one of the weirdest nit-picky gripes around here in some time.

Coordinators come and go at every program good and bad. The Head Coach would be constantly turning over his entire staff if he allowed every Coordinator to bring their own guys. He'd also constantly be losing those guys once the Coordinator moved on.

It makes complete sense for a Head coach to fill out the staff with coaches that match their philosophy. If anything maybe you want some input from your coordinators, but bringing their own guys seems to be the CIS fabricated gripe du jour.

Show me a top program where the new Coordinator brought his guys that weren't mostly the Head Coaches guys.
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Yeah - I get that some Coordinators would want a blank slate to bring their guys with them and maybe that was a sticking point for a candidate or two, but I kept thinking the same thing that you said... Coordinators move on for whatever reason all of the time in football and it usually doesn't result in a full turnover of the entire staff on that side of the ball.
 
Uncut Co Cane said:
The image I can’t get out of my head is Gattis lighting into X last night coming off the field and then going over to bark at him some more. Does this happen and should it happen if a player is wrong? Yes! But judging by the look on both faces you could see it wasn’t a teaching moment that X was receptive to it looked like a bashing from afar. Players and coaches are the blame for this season as I’ve painfully watched every game. I pray Mario makes the right hires this go around.
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I mentioned in camp his teaching style ( using that loosely) wasn’t helping things, on top of players having issues learning the system. Then they get bashed publicly as the worst group on the team. As I said back then “ but who coaches them? They’ve all regressed “. After all his comments and leaks there’s No trust or respect by players.

“ Ego and toxic “ is what I kept hearing when he was hired and nothing has changed my mind.
 
Ponce ❌
Gattis ❌
Wright ❌
Addae ❌

Those 4 at minimum need to go. Wright was supposed to open up TX and other areas for recruiting, we can do better.

The biggest worry I have is us losing these next 3, Mario firing the above, and getting 0 clarity on next hires anytime before like March 2023 because of how slow he is.

Mario also NEEDS to review his S&C and practice habits - this team is constantly injured and the kids are always banged up before the games start.
 
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simplycanes said:
@Cribby all of that is on full display, there are no questions, but isn't that all really a Mario problem?

Dropping it on assistants is something we've all seen before and it never gets corrected.

No matter what the issues are, getting his staff to be merely functional enough to have a competent product is not too great an ask. It doesn't mean he wins 10 games, it means he wins 7 or 8 and survives "Year 1."

Right now I have to question what it is we're rebuilding, a program or the head coach again?

I feel like we bought a coach who has already peaked and is coming back to what he really is-- a guy who was fired by FIU and never really tackled any adversity before.
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Never hire someone that was fired by FIU.
 
BS85 said:
When something like this happens will Mario tell someone (hypothetically Gattis) now that they'll be fired at the end of year? And if so, will Mario tell or strongly hint that Gattis will be gone to recruits now as well since I'm sure they all hate the offense?
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I always wonder how this works. I am sure Mario is selling the kids on playing time and that they can be the ones to turn the program around, but surely the recruits must see that it is at least partially play calling.
 
simplycanes said:
@Cribby all of that is on full display, there are no questions, but isn't that all really a Mario problem?

Dropping it on assistants is something we've all seen before and it never gets corrected.

No matter what the issues are, getting his staff to be merely functional enough to have a competent product is not too great an ask. It doesn't mean he wins 10 games, it means he wins 7 or 8 and survives "Year 1."

Right now I have to question what it is we're rebuilding, a program or the head coach again?

I feel like we bought a coach who has already peaked and is coming back to what he really is-- a guy who was fired by FIU and never really tackled any adversity before.
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He’s the head guy so he gets the blame for the firing. I do believe in him building a roster and creating a culture. He did that at Oregon and left behind a program is far better shape than he found it. With a great OL. My issue with him has always been game day and offense philosophy.
 
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