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Toney Punt Return From the Five was a trick play that would have been an easy TD

PIPO said:
That guy can put it down there easy from there.

I think the point from others is that it would’ve been a better trick play if he was punting from further in his territory.
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With that hang time? I call bs on that. If he can do that with any degree of consistency he's the GOAT punter. That's 55 yards long with great hang time. 50 yards with good hang time, still a very good punt, and that play is 1000% live.

IU might have had directional kicking tendencies as well. Do they directional kick when they are backed up in their own territory or do they only do that when they are closer to midfield. The play only works if they directional kick it to one side of the field. Doesn't have to be in the corner like that but definitely outside of one hash.
 
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Antcane said:
No BALLS. I guess you missed 4th and 1 from your own 34 yd line down 10 in the 2q with over 4 minutes to play. That took an amazing amount of balls considering that it could have potentially been 17-0 at halftime. Kicking the fg was the right thing to do and making a one score game at halftime.
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there's balls and then there's desperate and stupid. it ended up working out

but that call makes the decision to kick (and not trust your offense to get 2 yards) MORE chicken**** not less and dumb to boot
 
I definitely didn't need to know this. So we really do have a special teams coach.
 
JackOAT said:
there's balls and then there's desperate and stupid. it ended up working out

but that call makes the decision to kick (and not trust your offense to get 2 yards) MORE chicken**** not less and dumb to boot
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Not going for it on 4th and 2 at the end of the half was straight up dumb. On the season Davis was 6 of 10 from 40-49 and 1 of 3 from 50+. It really made no sense to ask Davis to hit a 50 yarder in that spot.
 
Caniac16 said:
Of course, but that's a difficult decision to make as a freshman in the natty when you've gotten the call to make this type of play. Makes more sense why he fielded it. I don't love making the call when indiana is kicking from the 40.
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Def not a right call, but the dude didn’t even slow down the gunner.
 
JHallCanes said:
If our plan was to throw a 40 yard pass across a football field to a DB on our own 5 yard line I’m gonna go ahead and say just let that one bounce

Would have been fitting with the way we called trick plays at absolutely absurd times though
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At least it wasn't snowing
 
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JHallCanes said:
If our plan was to throw a 40 yard pass across a football field to a DB on our own 5 yard line I’m gonna go ahead and say just let that one bounce

Would have been fitting with the way we called trick plays at absolutely absurd times though
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Fitzgerald would have moved closer to the has and they weren't banking on such an outrageously good punt when they called that. Also Toney can make that throw. As to it being to a DB.....Fitzgerald can catch and even if he does drop it with how open he was he would have time to pick it up and run. It's just unfortunate timing for the IU punter to absolutely boom a punt like that.
 
JHallCanes said:
If our plan was to throw a 40 yard pass across a football field to a DB on our own 5 yard line I’m gonna go ahead and say just let that one bounce

Would have been fitting with the way we called trick plays at absolutely absurd times though
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lol I dont think that was the plan because no way was the plan for the kicker to absolutely crush one. They were kicking lower line drives to toney all game.

Punter caught the ball at roughly his own 27 yard line and kicked it from his 30/31 yard line AND angled it to the corner that carried all the way to the 5. Also remember Bryce was a 2-way player coming up and some thought he was best used as a WR because his tackling was a question mark and he runs a 10.6 100m, dude would have been a blur down that sideline for the most insane 10 seconds for Miami in a long time.
 
JHallCanes said:
If our plan was to throw a 40 yard pass across a football field to a DB on our own 5 yard line I’m gonna go ahead and say just let that one bounce

Would have been fitting with the way we called trick plays at absolutely absurd times though
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Yes! It's a completely bat**** insane call. I can't believe that's not the focus of this thread lol

The old one KO returner throws the ball to the other one is pretty crazy. This one is like 100x more difficult, since Bryce has to sprint all the way downfield timed up with the punt which Toney has to catch the punt then throw it across the field with multiple guys trying to decapitate him who are usually a lot closer than on a KO return.
 
DubCaliCane said:
This is a call you make when your opponent is punting from inside their own 20.

#FireKalter
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You know… I agree but Their punter sucks and that punt quite literally have been the best punts of his season. Ask any IU fan and they’ll say he blows. And every punt to that point he sucked and had Toney running forward to field
 
DubCaliCane said:
This is a call you make when your opponent is punting from inside their own 20.

#FireKalter
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Exactly what I said a couple days ago. Even it the ball doesn't get that hangtime, is the plan for Toney to throw it to the 2-3 yard line to Fitzgerald? Toney probably isn't going throw it on a rope directly down the 5 because of the chance it gets called a forward pass. And if Fitzgerald bobbles it, you are looking at a safety or TD. It's about as smart as faking a punt from your own 4 yard line.

I guess the ST coach's thinking is "It's so stupid no one will be expecting it, so it just might work."
 
I think it was Dorset who scored on trick return. Miami returned to the right and Dorset was streaking down side line towards goal
Did a big loop and returned. It along the opposite sideline
 
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I have a different take on this. The best punt for this play to go for a touchdown is a punt to the corner. That's what we got here. It was perfectly placed down into the corner which made for a perfect setup for success.

That allows Toney to run towards Fitzgerald making the pass a lot easier to complete. And even though he has the opportunity to run towards Fitzgerald the Indiana defenders will still be crashing towards him and not towards fitzgerald. In this scenario if he can complete the past it is a no-brainer touchdown.

The real reason why the play didn't succeed isn't because of where Indiana kicked it from or where it landed, it's the gunners not doing their jobs. Those guys have to slow up the coverage guys. They have to get it done at all costs no matter what and this play scores.
 
The stadium would have erupted if this was a success. The 2 freshman AA’s leading us to our 6th Championship. Would have been an awesome story. Let me go cry some more in the fetal position. Goodnight guys.
 
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