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To all the armchair QB's and faux coaches who love to criticize the team:

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Midlo Cane Fan said:
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From Nixon to Mandela, everybody loves to quote that particular section of Roosevelt's Citizenship in a Republic speech -- and with good reason because it's impactful and well-written. But just after delivering that often quoted section, Roosevelt importantly noted:

"Self-restraint, self-mastery, common sense, the power of accepting individual responsibility and yet of acting in conjunction with others, courage and resolution—these are the qualities which mark a masterful people. Without them no people can control itself, or save itself from being controlled from the outside."

Roosevelt further went on to say:

"The truth is that, after a certain measure of tangible material success or reward has been achieved, the question of increasing it becomes of constantly less importance compared to other things that can be done in life. It is a bad thing for a nation to raise and to admire a false standard of success; and there can be no falser standard than that set by the deification of material well-being in and for itself. The man who, for any cause for which he is himself accountable, has failed to support himself and those for whom he is responsible, ought to feel that he has fallen lamentably short in his prime duty."

So while that section of the speech is certainly a slap in the face to critics with no skin in the game, the overall message is greater than that. Roosevelt was talking about the virtue of bravery, and the will of great men to take accountability for their actions and to continue to press onward for greater success (for themselves and those around them) despite attaining some level of material success. Avoiding complacency and seeing the job done because that's what is needed to persevere and for your community to win out.

Certainly guys like King, Perry, Harley, Brevin, Don, and even Couch would get the thumbs up from TR following Tuesday's game. But I'm not sure the same can be said about the entire squad.
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
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Theodore Rex's words were as true then as they are now.

This very quote has hung on my wall for ages.

With that said, there are those who have never been in an arena and those that have.

Both have opinions with the latter's carrying more weight and standing than the former's.

Props to Teddy for San Juan Hill, Panama Canal, Trust Busting, and of course, bears.

Bully Rough Rider!
 
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No_Fly_Zone said:
From Nixon to Mandela, everybody loves to quote that particular section of Roosevelt's Citizenship in a Republic speech -- and with good reason because it's impactful and well-written. But just after delivering that often quoted section, Roosevelt importantly noted:

"Self-restraint, self-mastery, common sense, the power of accepting individual responsibility and yet of acting in conjunction with others, courage and resolution—these are the qualities which mark a masterful people. Without them no people can control itself, or save itself from being controlled from the outside."

Roosevelt further went on to say:

"The truth is that, after a certain measure of tangible material success or reward has been achieved, the question of increasing it becomes of constantly less importance compared to other things that can be done in life. It is a bad thing for a nation to raise and to admire a false standard of success; and there can be no falser standard than that set by the deification of material well-being in and for itself. The man who, for any cause for which he is himself accountable, has failed to support himself and those for whom he is responsible, ought to feel that he has fallen lamentably short in his prime duty."

So while that section of the speech is certainly a slap in the face to critics with no skin in the game, the overall message is greater than that. Roosevelt was talking about the virtue of bravery, and the will of great men to take accountability for their actions and to continue to press onward for greater success (for themselves and those around them) despite attaining some level of material success. Avoiding complacency and seeing the job done because that's what is needed to persevere and for your community to win out.

Certainly guys like King, Perry, Harley, Brevin, Don, and even Couch would get the thumbs up from TR following Tuesday's game. But I'm not sure the same can be said about the entire squad.
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Very well said. I might add that its truly impossible to know how hard another person is working from the comfort of our couch. People criticizing the heart of those endeavoring for greatness are hilarious. You can criticize results but the effort behind the scenes? You don't have a clue what's going on.

Sometimes the intangible gifts necessary to be great simply aren't their. We look at height speed and weight and presume everything else is just hard work. That is simply false. Hard work guarantees nothing.

The program is going in the right direction.
 
HurikaneMarc said:
Very well said. I might add that its truly impossible to know how hard another person is working from the comfort of our couch. People criticizing the heart of those endeavoring for greatness are hilarious. You can criticize results but the effort behind the scenes? You don't have a clue what's going on.

Sometimes the intangible gifts necessary to be great simply aren't their. We look at height speed and weight and presume everything else is just hard work. That is simply false. Hard work guarantees nothing.

The program is going in the right direction.
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It's just sad to have to constantly listen to those who think it's always going in the wrong direction.
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
I'm just tired of people calling out EVERYBODY associated with the team.....Lashlee, Likens, Justice, Feeley, players....yes some players do need to play better and should live up to their billing, but I can't stand the medusa like tentacles of vitriol that go out to everyone just because people want to vent.
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Aren't you venting when you post this thread?

The player criticism is deserved. And hopefully it will light a fire under someone's *** to do things a little better. It's unrealistic to expect fans to show up to every game, buy the t-shirt, wave the pom-poms, write a check and go home. Not when the team is losing, that's not how it works with any fanbase. Respect is earned, not given.

Being a Miami Hurricane is the greatest honor most of these players will ever have in their entire lives. They're carrying the legacy and wearing the same "U" on their helmet as some of the greatest football players ever to strap up. So when they come out against UNC and look like they're not even making an effort, they need to be called out.
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
It's just sad to have to constantly listen to those who think it's always going in the wrong direction.
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We were never going to win it all this year. It was about keeping this awesome class in place and showing improvement. We did both and we still may add Lewis. If they fire Manny at seasons end(they won't) the cupboard will still be full for the next guy.
 
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HurikaneMarc said:
Very well said. I might add that its truly impossible to know how hard another person is working from the comfort of our couch. People criticizing the heart of those endeavoring for greatness are hilarious. You can criticize results but the effort behind the scenes? You don't have a clue what's going on.

Sometimes the intangible gifts necessary to be great simply aren't their. We look at height speed and weight and presume everything else is just hard work. That is simply false. Hard work guarantees nothing.

The program is going in the right direction.
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What makes you believe the program is going in the right direction? That's not how I see it.
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
I'm just tired of people calling out EVERYBODY associated with the team.....Lashlee, Likens, Justice, Feeley, players....yes some players do need to play better and should live up to their billing, but I can't stand the medusa like tentacles of vitriol that go out to everyone just because people want to vent.
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To be fair there are coaches on this team that are trotting out the same guys who don’t seem to deserve to be on the field. I don’t know who’s to blame for that, but ultimately MD is in charge, so he’s at least partially to blame.
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
Post #27 in the flesh.....
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Maybe so, but that's not an answer.

Honestly, your expectations of what a fan should be are unrealistic. College football is a product, and the fans are the customer. In the end, it's a business. And in business, the customer is always right.

The way Miami operates, it's like they expect us to tune in and give them money, while giving nothing in return. It's like if Coke made a ****** tasting beverage, and then whined because people weren't buying it when they worked so hard to create it. The world doesn't work that way.
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
I'm just tired of people calling out EVERYBODY associated with the team.....Lashlee, Likens, Justice, Feeley, players....yes some players do need to play better and should live up to their billing, but I can't stand the medusa like tentacles of vitriol that go out to everyone just because people want to vent.
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This is where I’m at with it. You can be critical of certain players or position groups that underperform, coaches that haven’t been carrying their weight etc. but this whole doom and gloom, everybody sucks and will always suck mentality from our fanbase is exhausting.

We made strides from year 1 to year 2 under Manny. 2 of our losses were bad, but they were to very good teams. We beat the teams we were supposed to beat and even though we lost the bowl, we didn’t go out sad. This team had some fight to it, it just wasn’t talented enough at certain spots to beat the best teams on our schedule.

Now Manny needs to take another step forward in year 3. Probably needs to make a change or 2 to the defensive staff, continue to recruit well and keep moving this thing forward.

But the way the mopes jerk each other off on here, you’d think we went 0-10. The vibe on this board has never been worse and it’s sad to see. Too many porsters that want to be proven right about Manny and company much more than they want the Canes to be successful.
 
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RightSaidFred said:
Maybe so, but that's not an answer.

Honestly, your expectations of what a fan should be are unrealistic. College football is a product, and the fans are the customer. In the end, it's a business. And in business, the customer is always right.

The way Miami operates, it's like they expect us to tune in and give them money, while giving nothing in return. It's like if Coke made a ****** tasting beverage, and then whined because people weren't buying it when they worked so hard to create it. The world doesn't work that way.
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Oh my God.....you just lost all your cred with that. After managing and owning several businesses, I will be 1st in line to say that is SO NOT TRUE!!!
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
Oh my God.....you just lost all your cred with that. After managing and owning several businesses, I will be 1st in line to say that is SO NOT TRUE!!!
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:ROFLMAO: Actually.... fair enough. I don't fully agree with me there either. A lot of customers don't know what the **** they want.

But it's true enough of the time to make my point - that the customers pay your bills at the end of the day, and in the end giving them some kind of value is what really matters... nobody really cares hard you work to make your product.

If Miami wants its fans to be happy and free with their cash, then they need to put a product on the field.
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
Oh my God.....you just lost all your cred with that. After managing and owning several businesses, I will be 1st in line to say that is SO NOT TRUE!!!
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Karen thinks you're wrong and would like to talk to a manager.

Mopes ruin CIS. They are not fans if they never have anything nice to say, they are just stealth trolls at that point.

It's going to be an active offseason on #KTDT.
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
I'm just tired of people calling out EVERYBODY associated with the team.....Lashlee, Likens, Justice, Feeley, players....yes some players do need to play better and should live up to their billing, but I can't stand the medusa like tentacles of vitriol that go out to everyone just because people want to vent.
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So of those who deserves praise? I would love your hot take on the outcome of our season. We beat a bunch of mediocre teams and looked mediocre in the process. We got embarrassed vs competitive teams.
 
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