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@hoops156 @TheSwagger1 You guys need to slow your roll. We just played game 3 of a new regime in a new offense. Quit the doomsday scenarios. There's 9+ games left. If the offense doesn't improve, then we can start to worry about these things but this is awfully premature at this stage.
There’s evidence to believe it doesn’t even take 3 games to click. It’s college football with wide hash marks. It only takes around now to drawn a conclusion bro.
 
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@hoops156 @TheSwagger1 You guys need to slow your roll. We just played game 3 of a new regime in a new offense. Quit the doomsday scenarios. There's 9+ games left. If the offense doesn't improve, then we can start to worry about these things but this is awfully premature at this stage.
I mean I saw this w enos. the offense as it currently is set up, isnt gonna improve. I dont believe its premature. I knew from day 1 w golden that the D will not improve when I went up to Maryland to watch us get screened to death. that MD team won once against a p5 team. were not even excelling against the cupcakes. I can admit when its "oh I mean you played an elite D (which they are not), so naturally you'll struggle"

we played against a weakened secondary on an average sec team. we look exactly the same passing vs southern miss that we did against atm. southern miss is where you work the kinks out. its why you slot two cupcakes in. its why you have mtsu after atm prior to acc play to get some guys work and recovery from a physical game. you have way more leeway to experiment In the Bethune souther miss game.
 
Y’all are going to drive yourselves crazy. Say it with me: complimentary, high efficient offense is what Mario wants. He would probably tell you the only reason we were in that game was because we had 20 1st downs and held the ball so long. If we get one of those two FGs and convert one RZ possession into a tud, he’s absolutely vindicated in his mind. This is what Mario wants. Y’all can blame Gattis, TVD, WRs and whatever else until the end of time. Mario wants to control the ball, grind clock, and keep field position. This is who we are now
 
A&M's B teamers! Southern Miss!

If you think you need Duper and Clayton to have a competent passing game against these juggernauts, you don't watch enough football in 2022. I'm not asking for 400 yards a game, just a junior high level competence.

Go watch football around the nation. The passing game does not look this difficult almost anywhere else. Tons of low caliber teams with no one having 1/10th of the ability of Arroyo or Smith or TVD at QB are throwing the ball all over the field.

Gattis is a BIG problem.
I’m not going to give up on him. He can always adjust. But then you’re going to have me looking macro and not micro and questioning Mario. And I don’t want to be attacked
 
Danny with the blunt talk to begin the week..
People defending Gattis and ripping players are clueless and have no idea what they’re watching. The route concepts , pacing , and formations do nothing for the qb’s or receivers. TVD is not comfortable in this offense, it does not play to his strengths. Any OC worth his salt would adjust to fit his scheme to the players , he’d also make adjustments to help the wr’s out. He’s known it’s been a weakness since spring. Air raid systems don’t have the greatest Ol and receivers but the scheme uses space to counteract the talent. Wider splits for the OL and using wr’s more to the hashes or outside the hashes. Which helps with getting open.

Gattis better take a long look at himself because Saturday was pathetic. Enoslite pathetic.
 
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There’s evidence to believe it doesn’t even take 3 games to click. It’s college football with wide hash marks. It only takes around now to drawn a conclusion bro.
I can't. Not yet. I'm not making a determination three games in. That's crazy. I mean, sh*t, folks were ready to put UF into the top 5 after week 1 and hand Richardson the Heisman and he's looked awful the last 2 weeks. I assess once there's a sample size. 3 games ain't it. We got a tune-up this week and then 2 weeks to prepare for UNC. If we play UNC and their crappy D and TVD throws for 275 we're all going to feel a lot better.
 
Uninspired. That’s the feeling I had leaving Kyle Field. It’s not the right thing to say as the owner of a fan website, but it’s the truth. It was a boring game with a familiar result. Let’s get the obvious out of the way: it's early, this is a building process, and it's way too early to make any sweeping observation about the Cristobal Era. But this was a major missed opportunity to build momentum in recruiting and within the fanbase. Some specific thoughts:

- We paid too much money for nine points. Gattis is accountable for the end result, no matter how fluky (first team since at least 2000 to have 27 first downs and zero touchdowns). Our pace was puzzling to me. Is there a distinct advantage to going no huddle when we move so slowly?

- The game was lost when we ran three times in the red zone and kicked a field goal down 17-3. You can’t say you have the best QB in the country and then show a complete lack of faith in him.

- The past few years, and this weekend in particular, really hammered a point home: WR has become a Top 3 important position in football. Look at the Dolphins on Sunday. Maybe someone who charted the game can correct me, but I can’t remember a single contested catch in 41 passes. “NFL open” does not exist in our passing game. We have body catchers, not snatchers. We should not miss guys like Rambo (undrafted), Harley (undrafted) and Restrepo as much as we do. This is Miami. The whiffs in the Transfer Portal really showed up on Saturday.

- Upon rewatch, I’m not as down on TVD. He played bad, but his degree of difficulty was off the charts. I thought back to my first time watching him at Paradise Camp. I expected a big, mechanical QB who would drive the ball but struggle to create. Instead, I saw an instinctive athlete who changed speeds and arm angles and thrived with a fast tempo. It feels like we are trying to put him back in that box with the slow-developing plays.

TVD is tough and will hang in until the last second to make the throw, but he should have more quick-hitting options to get in rhythm. It reminds me of Kaaya under Richt. There was a regression (and four losses) followed by schematic adjustment to get the ball out of his hands quicker. Those changes were in response to poor OL play, which isn’t really our problem. But they got results. I hope we see similar adjustments before the losses pile up.

- Some of our recruiting victories over the SEC showed up on Saturday. Jalen Rivers was moving people and is a huge reason for our improved running game. Leonard Taylor brings special interior rush ability, which is the best way to disrupt a passing game. James Williams missed a key tackle on the Achane TD, but otherwise was everywhere as a versatile weapon. We need more like those guys.

- The running backs ran hard and finished above their weight class. I was disappointed we didn’t have anything special cooked up for Jaylan Knighton in the passing game. He is our most explosive player and we need everything we can get.

- Happy for DJ Ivey. His game elevates when he tackles with physicality. The more he plays with a confident edge, the more he will finish at the catch point with length and timing.

- In general, this game looked very much like what we saw on Greentree. Struggles with downfield passing game, improved OL, strong DL, elevated DB play. For all the talk about Greentree All-Americans, the players generally play like they practice.

- Jacolby George needs to lock in. He’s clearly the most talented pure WR, but when Joe Rose asked Mario about him this AM the first thing Mario talked about was off-field reliability. This is a huge opportunity for George and he needs to seize it.

- Kamren Kinchens is playing faster every game. His football IQ is as good as it gets, and he is really starting to trust his instincts and pull the trigger.

- I like the way the pass rush is trending. We are 5th in the nation in sack percentage and a lot of people are contributing. That rush will lead to wins in ACC play.

- The most encouraging long-term sign is the OL. We looked strong against an SEC team and Mario is recruiting behemoths. If Miami becomes an OL program, it will raise our floor.

Overall, the improvements in physicality were apparent but we gave away a winnable game. Muffed punts, drops, penalties, missed kicks. Before the season, I expected a year like Mario’s first at Oregon or Richt’s first at Miami. That’s still the projection. This offense and pace will lead to a lot of close games where anything can happen. Time for the coaches to earn their money and make the necessary adjustments.

As much as the offense wasnt razzle dazzle. They move the ball quite well against TAMU. Cutting through all the bull****, two things cost us this game: Special Teams and No game breakers at WR.

Y'all act like TAMU drop 40 on us, we lost by 8 to a team that has 3x the talent we depth wise.

Stevenson muffed punt cost us points but on the coach?

Brinson getting tackle by his shoelace cost us points but that's on coach?

Borregales miss a FG he normally makes but that's on the coach?

Borregales has his FG block, no points but that's on the coach?

The coaches put their *** in position to make a play, when is the player going to step up make play?
 
@hoops156 @TheSwagger1 You guys need to slow your roll. We just played game 3 of a new regime in a new offense. Quit the doomsday scenarios. There's 9+ games left. If the offense doesn't improve, then we can start to worry about these things but this is awfully premature at this stage.

Like I said, I'll be pleasantly surprised if I can eat crow, and beg you to quote post this stuff at the end of the year if applicable. For the most part, coaches are who they are because it's a massive, MASSIVE ego profession. If something isn't working, it's because of players and/or admin. It's never a scheme or identity issue. I have a ton of close family and friends in the profession and I hear this **** every time we have get togethers.

I have sat through about 5 straight Miami coaching staffs where obvious problems at the beginning remained obvious problems until that coach got ****canned. It's who coaches are.

Maybe Ruiz bails us out by signing 3 5stars - right now that is our only hope. If that's the requirement for your offense, your offense ******* sucks.
 
But that’s not the case. Many astute posters have already agreed that Gattis scheme is a problem.

Cribby for one, but I guess he’s not a smart football mind that people on this board respect.
No disrespect to those posters but their opinion’s are not the end all be all. Have a mind of your own. Both sides have valid points.
 
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i’ve argued this all offseason. Maybe they have ‘off the field’ issues or maybe they’re not the group of WRs Gattis had at Bama. Fine. But, now everyone is terrible? How? They can’t even flash what they flashed last season? To me, it tells me there’s more than one thing. But, it’s always easier for the mob to blame one thing.
To me, it boils down to one problem: our talented WRs don't do the right things off the field, and our hardest-working WRs have less talent.

The hope is that on-field success (like George had this week) will lead to more focus on the other stuff.
 
Y’all are going to drive yourselves crazy. Say it with me: complimentary, high efficient offense is what Mario wants. He would probably tell you the only reason we were in that game was because we had 20 1st downs and held the ball so long. If we get one of those two FGs and convert one RZ possession into a tud, he’s absolutely vindicated in his mind. This is what Mario wants. Y’all can blame Gattis, TVD, WRs and whatever else until the end of time. Mario wants to control the ball, grind clock, and keep field position. This is who we are now
Well hence my last post. It’s not gattis it’s Mario. And I’m sticking with Mario, sorry not sorry. Lol just gotta pray he has an epiphany one day. Funny enough it’s easier to play his brand of ball, WHEN YOU CAN THROW THE BALL
 
i’ve argued this all offseason. Maybe they have ‘off the field’ issues or maybe they’re not the group of WRs Gattis had at Bama. Fine. But, now everyone is terrible? How? They can’t even flash what they flashed last season? To me, it tells me there’s more than one thing. But, it’s always easier for the mob to blame one thing.
lashlee ran top 30 offenses here at miami even w his faults in the run game. gattis has run 1 top 30 offense and that was w a co-oc. lashlee also pulled double duty being the QB coach. guess who progressed at an insanely fast rate from start 1 against UVA to the last game of the year against duke? lashlee wasn't the perfect OC and gattis has a better run game. gattis is WAY behind as a pass game OC. he hasn't hit on results at either school hes OCed at so far. look man, even Michigan who didnt know which QB to start is humming along and I know they played weak teams but so have we and we looked terrible against them.
 
Didn’t have a problem kicking the fg down 17-3, but the play calling with 3 straight runs before the fg is the worst I’ve seen.
^This.

And for everyone saying, “Which WR was he supposed to throw to down there?” Let me just say this.

You run Mallory and Arroyo into the end zone and toss it up to whichever one is more open. This is not rocket science. And it’s unbelievable that the coaching staff played for field goals under those circumstances.

Again, you don’t play not to lose when you’re already losing by 2 TDs.
 
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I can't. Not yet. I'm not making a determination three games in. That's crazy. I mean, sh*t, folks were ready to put UF into the top 5 after week 1 and hand Richardson the Heisman and he's looked awful the last 2 weeks. I assess once there's a sample size. 3 games ain't it. We got a tune-up this week and then 2 weeks to prepare for UNC. If we play UNC and their crappy D and TVD throws for 275 we're all going to feel a lot better.
I won’t feel better cuz the number should be north of 300 on unc. And I know that defense is poor. You can feel how you feel though
 
Well hence my last post. It’s not gattis it’s Mario. And I’m sticking with Mario, sorry not sorry. Lol just gotta pray he has an epiphany one day. Funny enough it’s easier to play his brand of ball, WHEN YOU CAN THROW THE BALL
the best passing offenses still run the ball extremely well. I think people think were calling for an air raid. no. we passed more than enough times Saturday night. its the concepts were using that is the issue
 
People defending Gattis and ripping players are clueless and have no idea what they’re watching. The route concepts , pacing , and formations do nothing for the qb’s or receivers. TVD is not comfortable in this offense, it does not play to his strengths. Any OC worth his salt would adjust to fit his scheme to the players , he’d also make adjustments to help the wr’s out. He’s known it’s been a weakness since spring. Air raid systems don’t have the greatest Ol and receivers but the scheme uses space to counteract the talent. Wider splits for the OL and using wr’s more to the hashes or outside the hashes. Which helps with getting open.

Gattis better take a long look at himself because Saturday was pathetic. Enoslite pathetic.

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^This.

And for everyone saying, “Which WR was he supposed to throw to down there?” Let me just say this.

You run Mallory and Arroyo into the end zone and toss it up to whichever one is more open. This is not rocket science. And it’s unbelievable that the coaching staff played for field goals under those circumstances.

Again, you don’t play not to lose when you’re already losing by 2 TDs.
conservative coaches by nature lose in conservative fashion. man, in start 1 as an HC McDaniel goes for it against a really good NE D on 4 and 7 to seal the game basically.
 
Like I said, I'll be pleasantly surprised if I can eat crow, and beg you to quote post this stuff at the end of the year if applicable. For the most part, coaches are who they are because it's a massive, MASSIVE ego profession. If something isn't working, it's because of players and/or admin. It's never a scheme or identity issue. I have a ton of close family and friends in the profession and I hear this **** every time we have get togethers.

I have sat through about 5 straight Miami coaching staffs where obvious problems at the beginning remained obvious problems until that coach got ****canned. It's who coaches are.

Maybe Ruiz bails us out by signing 3 5stars - right now that is our only hope. If that's the requirement for your offense, your offense ******* sucks.
I have concerns too.

But, we had two drops that really hurt. The Parrish one in particular was a killer. TVD had 2 badly missed throws. 2 missed FGs. On the road. And it was a 1 possession game. IDK. But I don't care to make declarations just yet.
 
the best passing offenses still run the ball extremely well. I think people think were calling for an air raid. no. we passed more than enough times Saturday night. its the concepts were using that is the issue
Yes concepts and tempo
 
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