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Tipped Balls at the LOS

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Seems like we'd often see Rosier's passes tipped/deflected at the line of scrimmage.
Now this isn't always on Rosier, as our Oline doesn't always do a great job either.

However, Perry has a solid 4" height advantage on Rosier.
I'm not saying his passes won't ever be tipped, but it should happen a lot less frequently IMO.

Sometimes small things like this can be the difference in a win/loss.








/insert obligatory "balls" joke
 
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umhurricane2511 said:
Seems like we'd often see Rosier's passes tipped/deflected at the line of scrimmage.
Now this isn't always on Rosier, as our Oline doesn't always do a great job either.

However, Perry has a solid 4" height advantage on Rosier.
I'm not saying his passes won't ever be tipped, but it should happen a lot less frequently IMO.

Sometimes small things like this can be the difference in a win/loss.
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To tip a ball at the line (which seems to be the most common one with Rosier) there has to be anticipation of direction and release of the QB by the defense. Odds of success go WAY UP when the QB stares down the receiver and has a slow/long release. It is my opinion that the reason Rosier got so many tips late in the season last year, was that opposing coaches saw those tendencies and coached their D line and LBs to get hands up. Height can play a role (especially with a QB under 6 feet), but with Rosier I really think it had to do with Tendency. It will be interesting to see how it goes with Perry as he seems to have less tendency of staring down receivers and def has a faster release.
 
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umhurricane2511 said:
Seems like we'd often see Rosier's passes tipped/deflected at the line of scrimmage.
Now this isn't always on Rosier, as our Oline doesn't always do a great job either.

However, Perry has a solid 4" height advantage on Rosier.
I'm not saying his passes won't ever be tipped, but it should happen a lot less frequently IMO.

Sometimes small things like this can be the difference in a win/loss.
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It's one of the things that drives me nuts about watching Malik play, that kind of wasted play. Always feels like there are 2-3 passes batted down per game, always at a bad time, too.
 
coolazzice said:
I feel u, OP... But ask Kaaya about his deflected passes vs fsu and he 6'4 too. In sayin that I still rather have a qb who can see over the line
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IMO tipped balls are more of a reflection of the defense you're playing than the QB, some guys do a good job of coaching them to get their hands up if they can't get there some don't. Now having a better view of things...
 
Our Dline used to tip a lot of balls under Gorlden. I mean if you're not going to bother rushing the passer, you might as well throw yo hands up.
 
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isnt part of the tipped passes the OL not keeping DL hands engaged? (romberg talks about this a lot on the radio, but not sure since im not an OL expert)
 
hoops156 said:
isnt part of the tipped passes the OL not keeping DL hands engaged? (romberg talks about this a lot on the radio, but not sure since im not an OL expert)
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To an extent yes, but it really comes down to how they're coached, it's more important to keep them engaged when you're throwing a middle screen, you go low at the DL and they instinctively put their hands down to protect themselves.
 
Good grief I thought your post title was "Tripped Balls at the LOS" and I was wondering where the LOS was.

Agree with your post content though.
 
More importantly it opens up the middle passing game. See Cager's square in TD against FIU. Rosier never would have attempted that throw.
 
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