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I was listening to espn radio today. The sportscasters said Flutie made an interesting comment. He said the OL often forget the snap count, so one OL will ask another what it is and they tell him. He said Bruce Smith used to ask the OL the snap count and they thought it was one of their guys so they announced it. I know that teams use codes (which they mentioned) but teams are lazy and a player goes from one team to another and exposes the "secret" snap code or a team figures it out on their own. I wonder if our DL's have utilized this? I also recall that some DL have said they can tell by the posture of the OL if it is a pass or a running play called. I wonder if this is part of coaching both to utilize or prevent?
 
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fraggle said:
I was listening to espn radio today. The sportscasters said Flutie made an interesting comment. He said the OL often forget the snap count, so one OL will ask another what it is and they tell him. He said Bruce Smith used to ask the OL the snap count and they thought it was one of their guys so they announced it. I know that teams use codes (which they mentioned) but teams are lazy and a player goes from one team to another and exposes the "secret" snap code or a team figures it out on their own. I wonder if our DL's have utilized this? I also recall that some DL have said they can tell by the posture of the OL if it is a pass or a running play called. I wonder if this is part of coaching both to utilize or prevent?
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Good coaches will teach that at the HS level. It should be all part of your presnap check. It's one of those disciplines that usually breaks down when fatigue starts to set in.
 
That's interesting. I remember hearing a story about a receiver who would tell the defensive player opposite him exactly what the play was. Things like, "Make it look good, but we can relax. Its a running play to the other side." He'd do it often enough that the defense would believe him and then burn them for a huge gain.

That said. I'm sure Flutie is a wonderful person, but if I never hear his name again, I'll die a happy man.
 
fraggle said:
I was listening to espn radio today. The sportscasters said Flutie made an interesting comment. He said the OL often forget the snap count, so one OL will ask another what it is and they tell him. He said Bruce Smith used to ask the OL the snap count and they thought it was one of their guys so they announced it. I know that teams use codes (which they mentioned) but teams are lazy and a player goes from one team to another and exposes the "secret" snap code or a team figures it out on their own. I wonder if our DL's have utilized this? I also recall that some DL have said they can tell by the posture of the OL if it is a pass or a running play called. I wonder if this is part of coaching both to utilize or prevent?
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The DL will always look not only for posture...but how the OL feet are situated...
 
JD08 said:
That's interesting. I remember hearing a story about a receiver who would tell the defensive player opposite him exactly what the play was. Things like, "Make it look good, but we can relax. Its a running play to the other side." He'd do it often enough that the defense would believe him and then burn them for a huge gain.

That said. I'm sure Flutie is a wonderful person, but if I never hear his name again, I'll die a happy man.
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He is a donkey. Just wanted to clear that up.
 
Is usually the other way around - I mean DL are usually the most mentally challanged guys on the team.

Good O-lines are constantly ******** with the DL with make up calls, snap count stuff like," its on first sound", adjusting stances so you look like you're pulling when you're not, leaning to look like your pass blocking on run plays, adjusting splits on away plays to see what the guy does, using real calls in a dummy situation, it's endless.
 
One of the greatest sports scenes in a movie. Right before Rudy has his 2nd practice after getting his *** kicked in, his offensive Lineman roommate shows him the hands in the dirt trick.
Makes me tear up just thinking about it.

If the fingers and hand are white, the lineman is pressing hard and will fly out at you. If there is red, the lineman is not in rush mode.
 
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We learned how to ask for the snap count in little league. If you get to the line and forget yell out “where you from”. Qb called state. State starting with O is on one, state with T was on three, and state with F was on five.
 
sfbomber said:
One of the greatest sports scenes in a movie. Right before Rudy has his 2nd practice after getting his *** kicked in, his offensive Lineman roommate shows him the hands in the dirt trick.
Makes me tear up just thinking about it.

If the fingers and hand are white, the lineman is pressing hard and will fly out at you. If there is red, the lineman is not in rush mode.
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F4ck that Notre Dame ****
 
fraggle said:
I was listening to espn radio today. The sportscasters said Flutie made an interesting comment. He said the OL often forget the snap count, so one OL will ask another what it is and they tell him. He said Bruce Smith used to ask the OL the snap count and they thought it was one of their guys so they announced it. I know that teams use codes (which they mentioned) but teams are lazy and a player goes from one team to another and exposes the "secret" snap code or a team figures it out on their own. I wonder if our DL's have utilized this? I also recall that some DL have said they can tell by the posture of the OL if it is a pass or a running play called. I wonder if this is part of coaching both to utilize or prevent?
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That’s beyond pathetic coaching. Bruce Smith is a fing Boss. That goes to show how awful the Pats coaching was until the Brady era. It was literally the worst in the nfl next to the bengals and Bucs.
 
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sfbomber said:
One of the greatest sports scenes in a movie. Right before Rudy has his 2nd practice after getting his *** kicked in, his offensive Lineman roommate shows him the hands in the dirt trick.
Makes me tear up just thinking about it.

If the fingers and hand are white, the lineman is pressing hard and will fly out at you. If there is red, the lineman is not in rush mode.
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I think you might be thinking of a scene in da movie Invinciple with Mark Walburg playing Vince Papale of the Philadelphia Eagles.
 
F-Flutie.

Miami can never beat BC too often and or bad enough for me. Ever.
 
Face it, JJ had the previous coaches staff and Olivadoti (sp?) was in the elevator when Flutie got his Heisman. JJ fixed that the following year. Flutie was just one lucky dude and personally that game just indicated JJ needed to clean house.
 
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