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Those who want Manny fired. Poll question.

I would begin to support Manny again if...

  • The team finished with 8 wins.

  • Bowl Eligibilty.

  • Beat FSU.

  • Nothing can change my mind.

  • Manny deserves more than 1 year no matter what.

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Win out, lose to Clemson in ACCCG, win bowl game and finish 10-4 would be a pretty **** good result considering the absolute ****show we've witnessed thus far. But we all know the likelihood of that happening.

Lose 5+ games and his seat is hot entering next season.

Not making a bowl game should be an immediate firing, no excuses about it. Unacceptable.

With that said, there are only two "guaranteed" wins left on this schedule and that is GT and FIU.



Oh and this is beating a dead horse but if Blake James isn't fired this season then what's the point??? Fire him, hire a new AD and boom there's immediate pressure on Diaz and co. to win or else he brings in his own Coach.
 
hoops156 said:
thats on you for buying the offseason talk. we know this team wasnt anywhere close to a title contender or even ny6 team based on the OL alone (thats been clear to us since day 1 of the offseason). the schedule is soft so we should be playing better than we are and we shouldnt have lost to UNC or VT. manny would have to win out and get a bowl win for me
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No man, I knew we weren't close to playoff material. Was hoping we were good enough to win the corstal. We're not.
 
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There is the problem with questions like this. No one should need more games or more seasons to make a judgment.

He has already demonstrated that he could not take a talented team through the summer and bye weeks and win games against lesser talented teams.
His players don't seem to understand what they are doing
The entire team is undisciplined
His QBs seem lost and play better with their own instincts then the play called.
He mismanages players

This is not some up and coming team that plays hard and plays with discipline but does not have the talent to win. Sure you think with that team in time the team will get better.

More time does nothing here. Beyond the contract and the business side there is no reason he should stay on another day. He should not be learning on the job. He was hired to win now not in three years.
 
NE Canes said:
There is the problem with questions like this. No one should need more games or more seasons to make a judgment.

He has already demonstrated that he could not take a talented team through the summer and bye weeks and win games against lesser talented teams.
His players don't seem to understand what they are doing
The entire team is undisciplined
His QBs seem lost and play better with their own instincts then the play called.
He mismanages players

This is not some up and coming team that plays hard and plays with discipline but does not have the talent to win. Sure you think with that team in time the team will get better.

More time does nothing here. Beyond the contract and the business side there is no reason he should stay on another day. He should not be learning on the job. He was hired to win now not in three years.
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he was hired to win in his tenure not specifically today or tomorrow. the expectations we set (partially by the talk from the summer) is an issue. the team has looked awful tho, even worse than imaginable against bad teams.
 
hoops156 said:
thats on you for buying the offseason talk. we know this team wasnt anywhere close to a title contender or even ny6 team based on the OL alone (thats been clear to us since day 1 of the offseason). the schedule is soft so we should be playing better than we are and we shouldnt have lost to UNC or VT. manny would have to win out and get a bowl win for me
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hoops156 said:
thats on you for buying the offseason talk. we know this team wasnt anywhere close to a title contender or even ny6 team based on the OL alone (thats been clear to us since day 1 of the offseason). the schedule is soft so we should be playing better than we are and we shouldnt have lost to UNC or VT. manny would have to win out and get a bowl win for me
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Definately feel for the improvement hype but never believed the title hype. Not for a second. Oline issues are well documented. I only bring up the hype to establish the fact the the hype HE created is the measuring stick he should be judged by. The majority of the hype was him completely $hitting on Richt and establishing the narrative that Richt and his offense were holding back a team that could make it to Charlotte. Mark Richt with his ancient offense would have a better record than this. If Richt and his staff didn't meet the standard and probably will be proven to be better than this staff then what does that say about Manny and company. A coach does deserve more time. I will admit that. Problem is this is a unique circumstances. We see talented coaches who can't turn things around all the time. But this is a Jeremy Pruitt level disaster. Richt had a coaching history that he could point too that a recruit could look at and believe things could get better. Manny doesn't. If the team continues to spiral what will 2 or 3 years worth of terrible recruiting classes change. Fire Manny name interim and find a legit coach that can recruit free of the burden of coaching this disaster the rest of the season. Someone who can evaluate the players from a box seat. Decide who stays and who goes. The main problem we have had is that guys come in and don't gut this team. Alot of these players need to be sent packing so that the first recruiting class is huge. AD and Assistant Ad need to walk as well. We hired a fan.
 
ToiletWater said:
Mark Ritch is a really good coach and he went 7-6. That means that we are truly a 7-6 team talent wise

I am not surprised by our record. A good season for Miami is 4 losses
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Mark Richt is far from a really good coach (while at UM).
 
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hcanes100 said:
Anyone that wants Manny fired and let Blake James make another mistake pick doesn't understand the real problem at Hecht.
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Yea. Blake shouldn't even have the call on whether Manny returns. But knowing how this goes at UM, Blake's replacement is already on staff. Bass and Frenk aren't going to pass up a "qualified" female candidate for an outside hire.
 
hoops156 said:
he was hired to win in his tenure not specifically today or tomorrow. the expectations we set (partially by the talk from the summer) is an issue. the team has looked awful tho, even worse than imaginable against bad teams.
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That is entirely inaccurate.

Contracts are for multiple years only because coaches would never accept less. No coach would ever get fire before contract end if judgment is based on the tenure. No coach can lose every game in his first 3 seasons on a five year deal and say, oh wait, I have 2 more years to get it right.

You don't need more time. He has demonstrated he can't do it under the most accommodating circumstances. It is only going to get more difficult. Less recruits to losing school. More difficult schedule, losing the team, etc.

Coaches have to win today. The only reason they get more time is because of contracts and millions spent on them...not because of fan expectations.
 
NE Canes said:
That is entirely inaccurate.

Contracts are for multiple years only because coaches would never accept less. No coach would ever get fire before contract end if judgment is based on the tenure. No coach can lose every game in his first 3 seasons on a five year deal and say, oh wait, I have 2 more years to get it right.

You don't need more time. He has demonstrated he can't do it under the most accommodating circumstances. It is only going to get more difficult. Less recruits to losing school. More difficult schedule, losing the team, etc.

Coaches have to win today. The only reason they get more time is because of contracts and millions spent on them...not because of fan expectations.
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lol ok. a first time HC with no experience is expected (at the time of hire) to win today. ok.

hes done an a pretty **** job so far (five games), but the school hired him to win in his tenure and will accept the growing pains unless it goes farther south. ****, even a school w an infinite amount of funds compared to us (tenn) stuck with pruitt another season when its obvious.
 
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