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Thomas Brown says we have two "elite" backs...maybe three

About Thomas Brown - Besides coaching he was a pretty good player at Georgia:

A native of Tucker, Ga., Brown starred at Tucker High School before enrolling at Georgia and helping the Bulldogs to the 2005 Southeastern Conference championship. He finished his career as the fifth-leading rushing in Georgia history with 2,646 career yards and led the Bulldogs in rushing in 2005 and 2005. For his career, Brown averaged 5.0 yards per carry and scored 25 touchdowns. He was elected by his teammates as the permanent offensive team captain in 2007.

He was selected in the sixth round of the 2008 NFL Draft by the Atlanta Falcons and spent the 2009 season with the Cleveland Browns before retiring to pursue coaching opportunities.
 
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Mico Jones said:
Our backs are pretty good but not great backs. Homer included.

We are sorely in need of studs at the RB spot. The guys in this upcoming class must be hits.

As far as homer goes, if he was a superstar in the making you would have heard the rumors of great plays in practice and the praise from coaches already. RB is a position where the stars show their stuff early on.
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We have heard good things about Homer already. He ripped off a 30+ yard TD against the 1s in the last scrimmage too.
 
We have two very good backs in Yearby and Walton.

Fournette, Cook, McCaffrey are elite and our guys simply aren't on their level (yet).
 
Not a fan of throwing out the word "elite" especially when they haven't proven to be yet. Maybe they possess the skills of an elite back but until they actually perform at an elite level, lets pump the breaks.
 
O-Line vs ACC defenses will play a big role in if their "elite".
 
rokulika said:
We have two very good backs in Yearby and Walton.

Fournette, Cook, McCaffrey are elite and our guys simply aren't on their level (yet).
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Walton does a lot of the basics very well. Blocks-catches-knows the playbook and does a very good job of hanging on to the ball-for these reasons he will play.

The big question marks for Walton are 1. Vision 2. Speed

I question both when he had 100+ carries yet failed to go longer than 30 yds on any run from scrimmage and had a yards per carry as bad as any back in the ACC at 3.55
 
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Mike James, Javarris James, and Damien Berry all made NFL teams, but they weren't anywhere near "elite".

That's the talent level of our RB's right now. Good, but not great.

Thomas Brown is just trying to create excitement. It's just coach talk.

And Thomas Brown's coaching had nothing to do with Gurley or Chubb being "elite" RB's. Those guys were studs from the minute they stepped on campus. Our RB's have athletic limitations that all the coaching in the world can't do anything about.

The OL and coaching definitely didn't help our RB's last year - but a bigger factor is that our RB's aren't that great to begin with.


No matter how bad the OL, Walton's 3.5 yds a carry is really bad.

Yearby gained 1,000 yards last year because he had so many carries. He had 205 carries and 1,002 yards. Every Miami RB that's ever had 200 carries in a season has gained 1,000 yards. 50 of the 53 RB's that had 200+ carries last year gained 1,000 yards. 15 RB's gained 1,000 yards last year with less than 200 carries. It's pretty hard not to get 1,000 yards if you have over 200 carries.
 
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bshaw28 said:
Mike James, Javarris James, and Damien Berry all made NFL teams, but they weren't anywhere near "elite".

That's the talent level of our RB's right now. Good, but not great.

Thomas Brown is just trying to create excitement. It's just coach talk.

And Thomas Brown's coaching had nothing to do with Gurley or Chubb being "elite" RB's. Those guys were studs from the minute they stepped on campus. Our RB's have athletic limitations that all the coaching in the world can't do anything about.

The OL and coaching definitely didn't help our RB's last year - but a bigger factor is that our RB's aren't that great to begin with.


No matter how bad the OL, Walton's 3.5 yds a carry is really bad.

Yearby gained 1,000 yards last year because he had so many carries. He had 205 carries and 1,002 yards. Every Miami RB that's ever had 200 carries in a season has gained 1,000 yards. 50 of the 53 RB's that had 200+ carries last year gained 1,000 yards. 15 RB's gained 1,000 yards last year with less than 200 carries. It's pretty hard not to get 1,000 yards if you have over 200 carries.
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Its amazing yearby had that much considering how the oline played at times and how they called plays
 
I'm not sure where you guys are going with the numbers but 205 ATTs on 1,002 rushing and 228 play on 1,275 yds from scrimmage is pretty **** good. But if that is not impressive considering the 2015 o-line then how do you compare the o-line of 2014 to that of 2015 where Yearby had only 86 ATTs on 509 yds and 94 plays from scrimmage for 627 yrds?
 
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Thomas Brown is a **** good coach have u guys seen some of his coaching clips while at Georgia?
 
brock said:
bshaw28 said:
Mike James, Javarris James, and Damien Berry all made NFL teams, but they weren't anywhere near "elite".

That's the talent level of our RB's right now. Good, but not great.

Thomas Brown is just trying to create excitement. It's just coach talk.

And Thomas Brown's coaching had nothing to do with Gurley or Chubb being "elite" RB's. Those guys were studs from the minute they stepped on campus. Our RB's have athletic limitations that all the coaching in the world can't do anything about.

The OL and coaching definitely didn't help our RB's last year - but a bigger factor is that our RB's aren't that great to begin with.


No matter how bad the OL, Walton's 3.5 yds a carry is really bad.

Yearby gained 1,000 yards last year because he had so many carries. He had 205 carries and 1,002 yards. Every Miami RB that's ever had 200 carries in a season has gained 1,000 yards. 50 of the 53 RB's that had 200+ carries last year gained 1,000 yards. 15 RB's gained 1,000 yards last year with less than 200 carries. It's pretty hard not to get 1,000 yards if you have over 200 carries.
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Its amazing yearby had that much considering how the oline played at times and how they called plays
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The same dude was calling the plays in 2014. Duke Johnson had 37 more carries, 650 more yards, and averaged 2 more yards per carry in 2014 than Yearby did in 2015.

That's why - for me - Duke was "elite" and Yearby is not. Duke didn't need good blocking or play calling to make him look good, he could make things happen himself. Yearby/Walton/Gus can't.
 
Oh OK, I see... Same coach calling the plays, OK. 37 more carries for 650 more yards, OK. Averaged 2 more yards per carry in 2014 than Yearby did in 2015, OK. But because the O-line was different it don't matter, well hold on now... OK. We agree that Duke is elite, but how well did Duke do with a poor O-line last year with Cleveland? Remember, you said the O-line play doesn't affect elite backs production so I assume he rushed well over a 1,000 yards, right?

BTW - Gurly and Chubb rushed for over 1,000 once and that was their FS year. Any reason they didn't remain the "Stud" backs and command the majority of the carries their So and Jr years? How was the OL play those years? And if the O-line sucked then why didn't these "elite" backs gain 1,000 yards?
 
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bshaw28 said:
brock said:
bshaw28 said:
Mike James, Javarris James, and Damien Berry all made NFL teams, but they weren't anywhere near "elite".

That's the talent level of our RB's right now. Good, but not great.

Thomas Brown is just trying to create excitement. It's just coach talk.

And Thomas Brown's coaching had nothing to do with Gurley or Chubb being "elite" RB's. Those guys were studs from the minute they stepped on campus. Our RB's have athletic limitations that all the coaching in the world can't do anything about.

The OL and coaching definitely didn't help our RB's last year - but a bigger factor is that our RB's aren't that great to begin with.


No matter how bad the OL, Walton's 3.5 yds a carry is really bad.

Yearby gained 1,000 yards last year because he had so many carries. He had 205 carries and 1,002 yards. Every Miami RB that's ever had 200 carries in a season has gained 1,000 yards. 50 of the 53 RB's that had 200+ carries last year gained 1,000 yards. 15 RB's gained 1,000 yards last year with less than 200 carries. It's pretty hard not to get 1,000 yards if you have over 200 carries.
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Its amazing yearby had that much considering how the oline played at times and how they called plays
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The same dude was calling the plays in 2014. Duke Johnson had 37 more carries, 650 more yards, and averaged 2 more yards per carry in 2014 than Yearby did in 2015.

That's why - for me - Duke was "elite" and Yearby is not. Duke didn't need good blocking or play calling to make him look good, he could make things happen himself. Yearby/Walton/Gus can't.
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Multiple players on dukes starting five offensive lineman ( flowers, feliciano, McDermott) are all in the NFL
 
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I am less concerned about elite RBs, which I have not seen in this current group of Canes. I would much rather have an elite OL behind which you can plug in any of the current RBs.
 
miamiphd said:
I am less concerned about elite RBs, which I have not seen in this current group of Canes. I would much rather have an elite OL behind which you can plug in any of the current RBs.
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Unfortunately we hav Alex Gall in the 2 deep..pray for no injuries
 
Canes21 said:
Mico Jones said:
Our backs are pretty good but not great backs. Homer included.

We are sorely in need of studs at the RB spot. The guys in this upcoming class must be hits.

As far as homer goes, if he was a superstar in the making you would have heard the rumors of great plays in practice and the praise from coaches already. RB is a position where the stars show their stuff early on.
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We have heard good things about Homer already. He ripped off a 30+ yard TD against the 1s in the last scrimmage too.
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No really. Not the type of Hype true stud backs produce. If he was a true stud we'd be hearing about him having to get carries THIS year if not starting.
 
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