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Thomas Brown on the Joe Rose Show; Revealing comments on Malik + QB competition

The whole "leadership" discussion isn't really important to me. Make some plays, win some games. Guys will fall in behind you when you can prove you're the real deal. Nobody questioned Rosier's leadership when they were 10-0. Besides, if you're throwing bubbles at receivers' feet and slants two yards behind them, you're in no position to start yelling at players and coaches. If you suck, I'm not buying into your "leadership" regardless of how vocal you are. I want a QB that completes passes, moves chains and scores touchdowns. IDGAF about that tim tebow rah-rah garbage.
 
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Cortez55403 said:
Guys, Also check out Joe Zagacki’s lengthy interview with Malik Rosier on WQAM. (Sorry, don’t know how to link). I was impressed with Malik’s enthusiasm and candor. He knows he has to improve accuracy and leadership.

He stated that last year’s goal for him was to win the job as the starter. This year, his goal is to win the ACC. Period. He wants to lead the team to that championship. If another Qb beats him out, he will support the starter.

His thoughts on players?

* Homer is stepping up a bit from his quiet self to speak out more vocally.
* Dallas is gonna make plays.
* Lingard has great skills. Now needs to learn pass protection.
* Going to run the ball behind a real fullback, George or Chock.
* Jordan at TE is a big time competitor and playmaker.
* Cager has true confidence now to match his size. Expect great things.
* Harley and Thomas have a year’s experience and are ready to progress.
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I like Malik. Seems like a nice guy and all. But you'd think once he accomplished his goal last year of starting, that other goals would then have come to his attention like coming prepared for games (like Pitt) and winning the ACC which he had an opportunity to do LAST YEAR!

There just doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency with him. It's like ok... I accomplish the goal of winning the ACC this year, well...what about now having the goal of winning a playoff game and going to an NC too?! It's not like you meet a goal and then you can just rest on your laurels and be done. There should be no period after just winning the ACC.

Maybe if he had a goal like "learn to study game film" when he was behind Kaaya he would not have delayed his learning curve and progress. In fact, what was his goal when he came to Miami? Just getting a scholarship?
 
Salt said:
I like Malik. Seems like a nice guy and all. But you'd think once he accomplished his goal last year of starting, that other goals would then have come to his attention like coming prepared for games (like Pitt) and winning the ACC which he had an opportunity to do LAST YEAR!

There just doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency with him. It's like ok... I accomplish the goal of winning the ACC this year, well...what about now having the goal of winning a playoff game and going to an NC too?! It's not like you meet a goal and then you can just rest on your laurels and be done. There should be no period after just winning the ACC.

Maybe if he had a goal like "learn to study game film" when he was behind Kaaya he would not have delayed his learning curve and progress. In fact, what was his goal when he came to Miami? Just getting a scholarship?
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This is something I've wondered about him for a while. Did he ever think he'd actually be the starter here when he signed on? Based on his lackadaisical attitude towards studying film and lack of any sense of urgency, I think he was content to come in and ride the bench behind Kaaya, maybe play some baseball for a major program and earn his degree for free. It's not totally uncommon. There's plenty of fringe players who sign on with bigger programs knowing full well they'll probably never see the field unless it's a blowout. They're not chasing NFL dreams and a free ride at a school like Miami is more important to them than earning playing time at Akron. It seems the current staff is bringing in fewer and fewer of these types of players and the ones that Golden brought in have either graduated, transferred or are going to graduate soon.
 
Gatorhater said:
The thing is that whoever tries to take his spot needs to show that he will make the difference in the three game we loss last year AND beat FSU. I look at things a little different than most. The fact that the coaches seem to feel free to critize Rosier in public tells me he is not a thin skin diva who is going to sulk. It also shows they think he has more to give than we have seen, or why bother.
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U nailed it!

I want Rosier to start as our QB unless one of the other QBs totally outshines him and is the obvious choice and ideal QB to lead our team. If the QBs are neck and neck after fall camp, I’d go with Rosier and I think that’s what our coaches are intending to do, unless shown otherwise. Unlike many here, I believe that Rosier’s faults can improve and I think the coaches believe so as well. Who has ever been their very best at something after one year of doing it on its highest level?
 
IIRC, Malik was a pretty highly sought-after HS recruit in Alabama -- but as an Athlete, not a QB. Like Dallas. I think UM got him to sign by being the only school willing to promise him he'd be recruited as a QB.
 
Didn't Malik develop the attitude of I can't beat Brad so why bother.. don't know of any successful athletes that took that mindset.. Plus I don't think Brad really got that much better.. so hopefully we don't recruit kids with that attitude any longer..
 
Combo said:
Actually he may very well have leadership qualities. What he lacks is accuracy and vision. I don't care how good of a "leader" you are, if you can't see the receivers and/or deliver a catchable ball to them, you're not going to be a quality QB.
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his leadership skills were on full display vs pitt
 
DTP said:
This is something I've wondered about him for a while. Did he ever think he'd actually be the starter here when he signed on? Based on his lackadaisical attitude towards studying film and lack of any sense of urgency, I think he was content to come in and ride the bench behind Kaaya, maybe play some baseball for a major program and earn his degree for free. It's not totally uncommon. There's plenty of fringe players who sign on with bigger programs knowing full well they'll probably never see the field unless it's a blowout. They're not chasing NFL dreams and a free ride at a school like Miami is more important to them than earning playing time at Akron. It seems the current staff is bringing in fewer and fewer of these types of players and the ones that Golden brought in have either graduated, transferred or are going to graduate soon.
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this all could be very true...what get's me though is that it's not like the guy is devoid of talent. Most of it to me is just mindset and attitude. He just seems content where he is at the time and like the light bulb hasn't flicked on that he can be much better AND lead the team to being great. He doesn't have to be phenomenal. He has the team around him where he doesn't have to carry the whole load. Simply a marginal improvement in accuracy and completion percentage, and making better decisions in the pocket. That is totally achievable.
 
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You never had a quarterback competition with Dorsey, or Berlin, or Brad Kaka going into their senior years.
 
DTP said:
The whole "leadership" discussion isn't really important to me. Make some plays, win some games. Guys will fall in behind you when you can prove you're the real deal. Nobody questioned Rosier's leadership when they were 10-0. Besides, if you're throwing bubbles at receivers' feet and slants two yards behind them, you're in no position to start yelling at players and coaches. If you suck, I'm not buying into your "leadership" regardless of how vocal you are. I want a QB that completes passes, moves chains and scores touchdowns. IDGAF about that tim tebow rah-rah garbage.
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You're right, to a point...

What I'm saying about leadership, and what Thomas Brown is looking for, is the demand for elite accountability. If you throw a pass two yards in front of your TE, or hit your RB in the feet on a screen and get him killed, you don't walk back to the end of the line and spark up a jovial conversation while you wait your turn until your next rep. You grab that TE by the facemask and tell him you're both staying after practice until you hit that ******* route ten times out of ten. You beg that RB's forgiveness and ask him to do you a solid and get up early the next day and help you work on your timing.

You do it again, over and over if necessary, until you get it right, not once, but repeatedly and as a habitual motion. Practical skill and proven success don't just happen, and leadership isn't about yelling at people to make them better. It's about demanding that everyone expect better and put in the time and effort to BE better. It's about not saying to someone who makes a bonehead, uncoordinated or lazy mistake, "it's ok, you'll be better tomorrow", and instead saying, "here's what you did wrong, but you can do this, let's try it again until you get it right repeatedly".

When Thomas Brown said Homer didn't feel the offense put in a good day's work in practice and called them all out and demanded up-downs after practice, that's what he was talking about with leadership. It's a start. We need a LOT more of that.

The coaches only have so much time with these guys and can only crack the whip so hard. What TB, CMR, Antrel, Playmaker, Ray, etc are saying is that this program and team will be great again when, and only when, the players put in that time, passion, and hard work, and demand the absolute best that each man can achieve from themselves and everyone around them.
 
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DTP said:
The whole "leadership" discussion isn't really important to me. Make some plays, win some games. Guys will fall in behind you when you can prove you're the real deal. Nobody questioned Rosier's leadership when they were 10-0. Besides, if you're throwing bubbles at receivers' feet and slants two yards behind them, you're in no position to start yelling at players and coaches. If you suck, I'm not buying into your "leadership" regardless of how vocal you are. I want a QB that completes passes, moves chains and scores touchdowns. IDGAF about that tim tebow rah-rah garbage.
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Yes. It starts from leading by example. Then you can be as vocal as you want.
 
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Carlcane said:
Didn't Malik develop the attitude of I can't beat Brad so why bother.. don't know of any successful athletes that took that mindset.. Plus I don't think Brad really got that much better.. so hopefully we don't recruit kids with that attitude any longer..
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This right here ^^ man everyone forgets the fact he started watching ******* film a couple years ago you have to have some balls to do that as a d1 qb
 
HarrietTubmanCane said:
U nailed it!

I want Rosier to start as our QB unless one of the other QBs totally outshines him and is the obvious choice and ideal QB to lead our team. If the QBs are neck and neck after fall camp, I’d go with Rosier and I think that’s what our coaches are intending to do, unless shown otherwise. Unlike many here, I believe that Rosier’s faults can improve and I think the coaches believe so as well. Who has ever been their very best at something after one year of doing it on its highest level?
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I am not sure he can get better but he his results were the best we've seen in a long long time. I am not prepared to turn my back on that because a shiny new QB who has not been hit yet. Rosier won in Tally in classic last second old school style, crushing nole hearts like the good old days.
 
Just look at Rosier after games... Mutha fugga always look like he has a hangover.. Looks like a **** drunk Bruno Mars..
 
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