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This quote sums up this team and staff

k9cane said:
I think this is the problem with hiring (another) first time head coach.

But this Harley situation reminds me of two stories about what was the UM culture in it's heyday. First was when Jimmy Johnson after bad practices would remind everyone that their scholarships were one year renewable's, and that come the new semester, nothing was guaranteed.

''Read...the... fine... print," is what Bubba McDowell said to me(for a story I did on him for Canestime long ago) were Jimmy's words. Bubba said that those words got everyone's attention

Michael Irvin said in the story I did on him that the most memorable football he ever was involved in were those scrimmages at Greentree after Jimmy would make those ultimatums. There was real fear in not just losing your job but your place on the team (which meant being cut off at the training table, etc)

So the other one is when Dennis Erickson first got hired, walking around campus, and so this had to be March of 89, and Erickson remarked after seeing so many players out are on their own practicing so soon, even before spring ball. He had never seen that much participation at the previous programs he had been apart off.

Najeh Davenport talked about jumping a player in the lockerroom in the late 90's after he didn't get his sprints done, during the rebuilding years. There was real accountability from both coaches and players within the program

Unfortunately, we are now a kinder, gentler program
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I've tried to explain that to most of these cuckolds but if I say something I'm just hating on manny and both line coaches etc,whomever because they wanna be giving kids desserts as rewards and b-day presents of ice cream sandwiches and all this ****** ****. Where you are wrong however my friend is this isn't a result of hiring a first time head coach. This is a result of allowing business people to be the end all of what's said and done with our program. Business is what got him this job and business is what'll keep him in this job for far too long most likely. If we had sports people more involved they'd know a football coach is a football person first and foremost. Someone that has a grit to him and demands other men's respect... Our staff has far too many betas on it. Dudes who just wanna be liked and kids who pick out there lil clicks and care nothing about anyone outside of that click. U need a strong personality at coach. No gimmicks, no friendship, ****allthat****. This is my team and this is what I demand out of you. Buckle your **** up or jump the **** out. Simple. Plenty of first time coaches can fill this role. Just not one built like this.
 
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dsddcane said:
I've tried to explain that to most of these cuckolds but if I say something I'm just hating on manny and both line coaches etc,whomever because they wanna be giving kids desserts as rewards and b-day presents of ice cream sandwiches and all this ****** ****. Where you are wrong however my friend is this isn't a result of hiring a first time head coach. This is a result of allowing business people to be the end all of what's said and done with our program. Business is what got him this job and business is what'll keep him in this job for far too long most likely. If we had sports people more involved they'd know a football coach is a football person first and foremost. Someone that has a grit to him and demands other men's respect... Our staff has far too many betas on it. Dudes who just wanna be liked and kids who pick out there lil clicks and care nothing about anyone outside of that click. U need a strong personality at coach. No gimmicks, no friendship, ****allthat****. This is my team and this is what I demand out of you. Buckle your **** up or jump the **** out. Simple. Plenty of first time coaches can fill this role. Just not one built like this.
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I have noticed that about Manny, he wants to be liked by his players. Not necessarily respected. That's awful. Yeah, I said it

There's a time for coaches to be liked -- years after when the players leave the program and get into adulthood, and realize the tough, hard lessons were the most valuable as they venture into 'the real world'.

I know it's political incorrect to say this, but I dont want a 'player's coach', sorry, give me a real leader of men. Manny has a lot of admirable traits -- but the ones really needed to be an elite college football coach? Yeah, I dont think so
 
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Funny we're having this conversation because I actually had 2 separate kids apologize to me last night for practicing poorly. One via text and another one in person while leaving practice. (and he's a kid with offers from everybody in the country)

Again...
I don't see this "South Florida entitlement" issue that spreads rampant on this message board.

One of the kids that apologized to me last night was the #1 little player in the country and MAY have come here with entitlement and laziness issues but it's our job as coaches to break those habits. If you can't at least mind fvck a 15-22 year old kid into giving you his effort, then maybe you need a different profession. It's even harder in high school, because truthfully my kid can slack off and I STILL have nobody that can replace him. So I have to try a different approach. I have to let that kid know how much I love him, believe in him and make him feel like disappointing me (and his teammates) is worse than being benched.
Most of these coaches in college have the advantage of benching a kid and replacing them with someone equal or close. (if they recruited decently)
So it should be EVEN EASIER to get a kid to work hard on the college level.

If a kid believes that you genuinely care about him, have his best interest in mind, etc...and he can STILL look you in your eyes daily and give you bullsh!t effort then that's just a terrible character and there's probably no saving him. But 99% of kids aren't like that. If we have an issue with entitlement and laziness on this team then maybe we need to look at WHO'S ALLOWING IT. (or who recruited it)

Y'all clowned that WR at Oklahoma for talking bad about our culture but maybe he was telling the truth and your O&G glasses didn't wanna see it.
 
When you flop on 6 consecutive coaches people are going to start looking for ulterior reasons why we can’t get it together. Along the lines of what Macho said, what happens to South Florida kids when they head to Bama? If the answers that Bama just grabs the elite athletes with their head on straight then that’s our problem too.
 
Coach Macho said:
Funny we're having this conversation because I actually had 2 separate kids apologize to me last night for practicing poorly. One via text and another one in person while leaving practice. (and he's a kid with offers from everybody in the country)

Again...
I don't see this "South Florida entitlement" issue that spreads rampant on this message board.

One of the kids that apologized to me last night was the #1 little player in the country and MAY have come here with entitlement and laziness issues but it's our job as coaches to break those habits. If you can't at least mind fvck a 15-22 year old kid into giving you his effort, then maybe you need a different profession. It's even harder in high school, because truthfully my kid can slack off and I STILL have nobody that can replace him. So I have to try a different approach. I have to let that kid know how much I love him, believe in him and make him feel like disappointing me (and his teammates) is worse than being benched.
Most of these coaches in college have the advantage of benching a kid and replacing them with someone equal or close. (if they recruited decently)
So it should be EVEN EASIER to get a kid to work hard on the college level.

If a kid believes that you genuinely care about him, have his best interest in mind, etc...and he can STILL look you in your eyes daily and give you bullsh!t effort then that's just a terrible character and there's probably no saving him. But 99% of kids aren't like that. If we have an issue with entitlement and laziness on this team then maybe we need to look at WHO'S ALLOWING IT. (or who recruited it)

Y'all clowned that WR at Oklahoma for talking bad about our culture but maybe he was telling the truth and your O&G glasses didn't wanna see it.
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I just hope the young guys don’t fall into the same culture problems. You can go back to that 2008 class with all the MNW guys and hear the same lines... “they are going to bring that culture and work ethic” or “this class is just built different”.

From the outside, Lashlee looks like the type who expects perfection and will give an earful, but there are many hours in a week aside from the three we see on TV.
 
Coach Macho said:
Funny we're having this conversation because I actually had 2 separate kids apologize to me last night for practicing poorly. One via text and another one in person while leaving practice. (and he's a kid with offers from everybody in the country)

Again...
I don't see this "South Florida entitlement" issue that spreads rampant on this message board.

One of the kids that apologized to me last night was the #1 little player in the country and MAY have come here with entitlement and laziness issues but it's our job as coaches to break those habits. If you can't at least mind fvck a 15-22 year old kid into giving you his effort, then maybe you need a different profession. It's even harder in high school, because truthfully my kid can slack off and I STILL have nobody that can replace him. So I have to try a different approach. I have to let that kid know how much I love him, believe in him and make him feel like disappointing me (and his teammates) is worse than being benched.
Most of these coaches in college have the advantage of benching a kid and replacing them with someone equal or close. (if they recruited decently)
So it should be EVEN EASIER to get a kid to work hard on the college level.

If a kid believes that you genuinely care about him, have his best interest in mind, etc...and he can STILL look you in your eyes daily and give you bullsh!t effort then that's just a terrible character and there's probably no saving him. But 99% of kids aren't like that. If we have an issue with entitlement and laziness on this team then maybe we need to look at WHO'S ALLOWING IT. (or who recruited it)

Y'all clowned that WR at Oklahoma for talking bad about our culture but maybe he was telling the truth and your O&G glasses didn't wanna see it.
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For me the issue is bigger than entitlement. The issue is our staff doesn't understand evaluations. This entitlement isn't just now popping up. Seriously look at how several of the upperclassmen at wr were in high school... How difficult was it to establish whether or not these kids posses a true moral compass... Were recruiting kids who on top of everything else going on with staph etc lack values,lack basic human traits outside of football... How do we contstantly key on that yet we can rarely find a kid with leadership traits? That's the one thing I'll say right off rip about brinson. That kid is coming to play ball and earn everything he wants out of this world. I love that kids build physically and mentally. Most importantly it's plain to see he's a leader of men. Don't really see that in most other kids we've had here lately for a long time. Just praying he's not one of those kids who sees when the coaches tearing into him once he gets on campus it as more than it is. Alot of kids say they loved me before. Now I can't do anything right. Its one of the mental games of sports. 9 out of 10 you get torn down before you can be built back up...
 
Coach Macho said:
One of the Freshmen WR's snapped on Harley for that public comment, basically telling him "Keep my name out of your mouth, don't throw all of us under the bus cause yall are lazy etc etc etc." Something along those lines.

I heard Pope and Wiggins are able to get away with a lot more BS because they're Cooney's boys. Don't know how true that is but it's believable.

There's clearly a culture of complacency at Miami and I've been saying it for years. When you celebrate in the locker room after squeaking out a win versus Western Kentucky (or whoever it was)...and you got guys dancing on the sidelines during losses to GT and FIU...there's cultural problems. You're doing nothing more than breeding complacency and mediocrity.

I mean, think about this for a second.
A fvckin' player from Buffalo came here and was our hardest worker and our best WR.
How bad is that?


Starts at the top fellas.
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