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i don't think so. People saw what FSU was without Jordan Travis during the regular season. This is why they dropped out of the CFP (another CFP blemish). It would be speculation that Ole Miss is going to crumble if Lane and staff are truly leaving now
I think you are correct in terms of the committee approach. The committee chair said last week that if Lane leaves after the Egg Bowl "there will be no new data point to consider" (i.e., they will not have a chance to watch Ole Miss play without Lane) and therefore it would not be a basis to drop them.

The problem with that position is that it directly contradicts the selection committee protocol, which includes "[o]ther relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance."

Ole Miss is significantly weakened without Lane AND its OC. You go from Lane and Weiss running the offense to the QB coach? But the committee told us it will not be following its own protocol, so it seems like a safe bet to believe them.
 
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They don't need to be 13th
If they are still 10th tomorrow they only need to fall to #11 if they lose to be out
Every CC game loser had fallen

Espn has brainwashed this country about sec


Yes.

In the massive ONE YEAR of having a 12-team playoff (thus posing the question of "what happens to the loser of the conference championship game"), there has NEVER BEEN (in one year) a conference championship participant SO CLOSE TO THE CUTLINE as we have with Alabama and BYU.

I just wish people could be honest about this fact, instead of bloviating (with no support) about how Alabama will "never be left out".
 
I think you are correct in terms of the committee approach. The committee chair said last week that if Lane leaves after the Egg Bowl "there will be no new data point to consider" (i.e., they will not have a chance to watch Ole Miss play without Lane) and therefore it would not be a basis to drop them.

The problem with that position is that it directly contradicts the selection committee protocol, which includes "[o]ther relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance."

Ole Miss is significantly weakened without Lane AND its OC. You go from Lane and Weiss running the offense to the QB coach? But the committee told us it will not be following its own protocol, so it seems like a safe bet to believe them.


While your bolded words are true, the chairman RECENTLY said that there would be "no data point" for being able to downgrade Ole Miss for the loss of Kiffin.

But I wonder what might happen if Ole Miss lost nearly all of their coaches...
 
Yes.

In the massive ONE YEAR of having a 12-team playoff (thus posing the question of "what happens to the loser of the conference championship game"), there has NEVER BEEN (in one year) a conference championship participant SO CLOSE TO THE CUTLINE as we have with Alabama and BYU.

I just wish people could be honest about this fact, instead of bloviating (with no support) about how Alabama will "never be left out".
People just repeating what Rachel Maddow joey Galloway tells them
Heard it on espn must be true
 
Yes.

In the massive ONE YEAR of having a 12-team playoff (thus posing the question of "what happens to the loser of the conference championship game"), there has NEVER BEEN (in one year) a conference championship participant SO CLOSE TO THE CUTLINE as we have with Alabama and BYU.

I just wish people could be honest about this fact, instead of bloviating (with no support) about how Alabama will "never be left out".
The commissioner that was removed said this before he was removed and stepped down at Baylor:

“We look at it as a positive if you’re playing in the championship game. It’s another datapoint. It’s certainly recognized when we think about record strength,” Rhoades said. “Obviously, you win it, that’s a plus. If you lose it, theoretically, it’s not supposed to hurt you.”

The key word is theoretically, as Rhoades laid out.


“If it was a game where it wasn’t competitive and you completely got blown away, then that would be a conversation, candidly, in the room amongst the committee,” he added.

So you're right, its possible. They've opened the door this year. Last year they had the stance of "absolutely not" until it came to the possibility of it happening to the ACC. They said it could impact the seed but they won't fall out of the picture if they were "in" while other teams sit idle.

Quote from the chair in 2024:

"If you take, for example, Tennessee is ahead of [ACC title game participant] SMU, Indiana is behind SMU; Tennessee will not drop below Indiana at any point. Neither team is playing,” Manuel said. “But SMU could move up, depending on how we evaluate the game. They could stay where they are or they could move down depending on the outcome of the game. But Tennessee and Indiana in this example would never flip. Indiana would never move ahead of Tennessee, and Tennessee would never drop below Indiana because we’ve already evaluated them. There’s not another datapoint because they’re not playing in the championship games. So we don’t have anything else to add to the evaluation of those teams, so we can’t move them above or below each other.”

From another article: CFP Selection Committee Chair Warde Manuel said last week that teams would not be penalized for losing conference title games and leapfrogged by teams that were idle Saturday.

In the same discussion he said - "“Potentially, yes,” Manuel said when asked directly if SMU could drop below Alabama on Sunday. “And they can move above teams, as well. Again, it just depends on the outcome of the game.”

So he talked out of both sides of his mouth. It'll take a blowout of BYU and/or Alabama for them to fall out.
 
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It’s really simple if the committee wasn’t already bought and in the pockets of certain teams ($ec & ND)..

8. Oklahoma
9. Miami
10. ND
11. Bama
12. BYU

This way, Bama and BYU can both play their way in with wins without having to drop them from the playoffs with losses. If both win, ND and Miami are out. If only one wins, ND is out.

That’s the most practical way… and I even say that loosely because I don’t think Oklahoma belongs AT ALL!
 
Right and they said it several times last year. They haven't said it once this year. So maybe they're setting it up


That's all I'm saying. We simply DO NOT have enough precedent or comparables to draw a solid conclusion about what the CFPC might do this year.

In a 2-team or 4-team playoff, you NEVER heard anything about "whether a conference championship game loser would be penalized". Imagine IN A PRIOR YEAR if Ohio State beat Indiana, it might be VERY POSSIBLE for Indiana to remain in the Top 4. Yet you never heard anything about this.

Now that we have a TWELVE TEAM system, we have to be aware that a "bubble" exists. Some teams are "safely" still in the Top 10 with a loss, others ARE NOT. But there is no way in **** that the CFP is just going to submit the same Top 10/Top 12 teams for two weeks in a row, regardless of championship game outcome.

I realize a bunch of Miami fans are helping the SEC to perpetuate "it just means more" to the rest of the world, but we have to stop this nonsense. The SEC had THREE teams last year and whined. They currently have FIVE teams (including Alabama), and will have FOUR teams WITHOUT ALABAMA. All of this as Sark/Texas continues to whine about being left out.

But Texas is a 3-loss team with a horrible loss (Florida). Alabama (with an ACC-CG loss) will be a 3-loss team with a horrible loss (F$U). There would be no daylight between Texas and Alabama, except for the fact that the two Texas "quality losses" are to Georgia and Ohio State, and Alabama's two "quality losses would be to Georgia and Oklahoma. When you factor in the concept that Florida just whipped F$U, why would any reasonable human being NOT conclude that Texas should be ranked HIGHER than Alabama?

We need to stop "defending Alabama and the SEC" and justifying the ridiculous take of FIVE teams from the SEC, particularly when a team that is almost guaranteed to be left out (Texas) could have a slightly superior resume to a team (Alabama) that certain Miami fans SWEAR will not be lowered from the #10 spot, even with a loss in the SEC-CG.

This is madness.
 
That's all I'm saying. We simply DO NOT have enough precedent or comparables to draw a solid conclusion about what the CFPC might do this year.

In a 2-team or 4-team playoff, you NEVER heard anything about "whether a conference championship game loser would be penalized". Imagine IN A PRIOR YEAR if Ohio State beat Indiana, it might be VERY POSSIBLE for Indiana to remain in the Top 4. Yet you never heard anything about this.

Now that we have a TWELVE TEAM system, we have to be aware that a "bubble" exists. Some teams are "safely" still in the Top 10 with a loss, others ARE NOT. But there is no way in **** that the CFP is just going to submit the same Top 10/Top 12 teams for two weeks in a row, regardless of championship game outcome.

I realize a bunch of Miami fans are helping the SEC to perpetuate "it just means more" to the rest of the world, but we have to stop this nonsense. The SEC had THREE teams last year and whined. They currently have FIVE teams (including Alabama), and will have FOUR teams WITHOUT ALABAMA. All of this as Sark/Texas continues to whine about being left out.

But Texas is a 3-loss team with a horrible loss (Florida). Alabama (with an ACC-CG loss) will be a 3-loss team with a horrible loss (F$U). There would be no daylight between Texas and Alabama, except for the fact that the two Texas "quality losses" are to Georgia and Ohio State, and Alabama's two "quality losses would be to Georgia and Oklahoma. When you factor in the concept that Florida just whipped F$U, why would any reasonable human being NOT conclude that Texas should be ranked HIGHER than Alabama?

We need to stop "defending Alabama and the SEC" and justifying the ridiculous take of FIVE teams from the SEC, particularly when a team that is almost guaranteed to be left out (Texas) could have a slightly superior resume to a team (Alabama) that certain Miami fans SWEAR will not be lowered from the #10 spot, even with a loss in the SEC-CG.

This is madness.
The SEC knows how to handle it and ensure both make it. They'll fix the game to be close no matter what. Then, unless BYU loses big, they'll be forced to keep them too as TTU and UGA are viewed in the same eye by the committee.

Injuries could also happen in these games. They could easily say they're not serious and downplay them for a few days to make it through rankings.

Whatever we need to happen to get in has to happen Tuesday IMO. I'm very confident we're not moving up or down sitting idle.
 
I think you are correct in terms of the committee approach. The committee chair said last week that if Lane leaves after the Egg Bowl "there will be no new data point to consider" (i.e., they will not have a chance to watch Ole Miss play without Lane) and therefore it would not be a basis to drop them.

The problem with that position is that it directly contradicts the selection committee protocol, which includes "[o]ther relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance."

Ole Miss is significantly weakened without Lane AND its OC. You go from Lane and Weiss running the offense to the QB coach? But the committee told us it will not be following its own protocol, so it seems like a safe bet to believe them.
At the time of that statement Lane hadn't left for LSU yet
 
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It’s really simple if the committee wasn’t already bought and in the pockets of certain teams ($ec & ND)..

8. Oklahoma
9. Miami
10. ND
11. Bama
12. BYU

This way, Bama and BYU can both play their way in with wins without having to drop them from the playoffs with losses. If both win, ND and Miami are out. If only one wins, ND is out.

That’s the most practical way… and I even say that loosely because I don’t think Oklahoma belongs AT ALL!
This is actually the ideal scenario and makes the most sense for the committee to do. Keeps bama in even they possibly lose. But kicks byu out if they lose. ND and Miami stay in.
 
This is actually the ideal scenario and makes the most sense for the committee to do. Keeps bama in even they possibly lose. But kicks byu out if they lose. ND and Miami stay in.
Bama would be out in this scenario if they lose. Replaced by ACCCG winner or one of two G5 champs. They'd need to win the SECCG, at which point they and UGA would be in, and ND would be out.
 
It's funny that the 1st tiebreaker in SEC, B1G, Big 12, NFL division winner, NFL wildcard, and just about any other sport is......head-to-head. MLB is head-to-head. NBA is head-to-head. Even college basketball is head-to-head first.

But for the college football playoffs their narrative changes to....well who has the better losses?
 
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