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MEGA There’s Still Hope for the ACCCG/CFB Playoffs Mega Merge Thread
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Hey, moron, did you know that THE WEEK BEFORE, a 7-1 Louisville team was ranked ahead of 6-2 Miami?
And then the next week, they moved Miami up for a win and moved Louisville down for a bad loss to Cal?
AND THAT NEITHER TEAM WAS THEN IN THE TOP 12, MEANING THERE WAS ZERO IMPACT OF THIS VOTE?
And then the very next week, Louisville lost their third game, so this one week blip ended up meaning NOTHING?
Get the **** out of here, you dope. You are using a ONE-WEEK blip in the middle of a 3-game Louisville losing streak to prove that Miami was the undeserving beneficiary of CFPC inconsistency? Are you insane?
Louisville lost 3 consecutive games. Miami won 4 consecutive games. Everything has worked itself out.
Meanwhile, for FIVE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS, a 2-loss Notre Dame team has been ranked ahead of a 2-loss Miami team.
If you can't see the difference, you are a liar.
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Isn’t that the ACC commissioner?
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Mario Cristobal better wake up to the fact that Game Control is by far the most important metric for CFP rankings.
Blowing teams out is incredibly important.
Blowing teams out is incredibly important.
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Here's how bad your clown-*** bull**** arguments have misguided people.
You are actually advocating for Alabama to win, under the insane and misguided notion that the CFPC will suddenly and belatedly award Miami a preference over Notre Dame based on head-to-head. And the easily-led, the ones who don't check facts, have started to parrot your nutty opinions.
WHY?
Only God knows. You seem to think that the CFPC will suddenly and belatedly follow their own policies in the ONE CASE where they have, FOR FIVE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS, looked the other way. Sure, in Week 11, Miami was 8 spots below Notre Dame. And the excuse was "well, Miami just lost 2 of their last 3 games." At the time, we were the 6th highest-rated 2-loss team.
Then we won a game. Now we were 6 games below Notre Dame and were still the 6th highest-rated 2-loss team. And then the excuse was "well, if Miami can show us some consistency, we will move them back up again."
Then we won our second consecutive game. Now we were 4 games below Notre Dame and became the 5th highest-rated 2-loss team after jumping Vandy. And then the excuse was "well, we compare teams in pods, and Notre Dame is in a higher pod than Miami, so we didn't even bother to compare them."
Then we won our third consecutive game. Now we were 3 games below Notre Dame and were the 4th highest-rated 2-loss team. And even though WE WERE IN THE SAME POD WITH NOTRE DAME, the excuse mutated to "well, we compare ALL FOUR TEAMS IN THE POD when evaluating head-to-head, even though they haven't all played each other, and Notre Dame is still ahead of Miami even though we could have made a binary comparison, we just chose not to do so, because ND was the #1 team in the pod and Miami was the #4 team in the pod AND OH MY LORDY, ALABAMA AND BYU CONFUSED US TOO MUCH."
Then we won our fourth consecutive game. Now we were 2 games below Notre Dame and were still the 4th highest-rated 2-loss team. And while we were still in the same pod with Notre Dame, the excuse metastasized to "well, we can only compare head-to-head outcomes within the same pod if the teams are BACK-TO-BACK like they are playing a game of Twister, and we are still confused by BYU being in the middle of the Catholics vs. Convicts sandwich, and we can't possibly figure out how to apply our written guidelines without our brains blowing up."
So here we sit. With misguided rocket scientists like @Calinative trying to convince us that IF ONLY BYU LOSES, then we will finally be living in a BACK-TO-BACK WORLD, where the CFPC can finally and belatedly leapfrog idle Miami over idle Notre Dame in Week 16 based off of a result in Week 1. A Week 1 result that they have been ignoring FOR ONLY ONE SCHOOL for 5 consecutive weeks. A Week 1 result for which they have invented FIVE SEPARATE EXCUSES not to apply their own written ranking guidelines.
Therefore, my questions to you are simple. When someone tells you what they really are, why don't you believe them? And when the CFPC has, for five consecutive weeks, invented five different reasons for why they are ignoring the head-to-head outcome as it relates to Miami and Notre Dame, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT THEY WILL SUDDENLY REVERT TO THEIR WRITTEN RANKING GUIDELINES FOR THE SIXTH VOTE? Do you think this is a papal election? Or the Republican Convention of 1880?
IT'S NOT HAPPENIN' CAP'N. Alabama "winning" will not suddenly cause the CFPC to put Miami ahead of Notre Dame. And I have no idea why you are trying to convince people otherwise.
On the other hand, as I have said ALL ALONG, there has been NO SUCH SIMILAR "week-after-week" announcement by the CFPC that they would NOT move conference-championship-game-losers DOWN. In fact, they clarified this week that this is a result that could happen. Which was "mighty white of them" (I'm quoting a Clint Eastwood movie), given that conference-championship-game-losers have ALWAYS been moved DOWN in the final rankings.
Sadly, for weeks, a bunch of CIS Mopers have been trying to convince the board that the CFPC will NEVER EVER EVER EVER reduce the rankings of any P4 conference-championship-game-loser, particularly the loser of the SEC-CG. Which, of course, was never true, since that has been the result for, literally, every year of the CFP.
So, while it is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that the CFPC might NOT move Alabama out of the Top 10 for an SEC-CG loss, IT IS AT LEAST POSSIBLE. The CFPC actually came out and said so. And has done so in every prior year. Now, we can debate HOW LOW the CFPC will move Alabama after a loss. That is a valid question. And I freely acknowledge that we only have ONE PRIOR YEAR OF PRECEDENT under the 12-team model. But the point is, there is a MUCH GREATER possibility that Miami makes the Top 10 IF BOTH BYU AND ALABAMA LOSE than under this magical-thinking-model of IF BYU LOSES AND ALABAMA WINS AND THE CFPC FINALLY AND BELATEDLY PUTS MIAMI AHEAD OF NOTRE DAME BASED SOLELY ON THE WEEK 1 HEAD-TO-HEAD OUTCOME.
Those are the facts.
And that is why your ongoing posts about "we need to root for Alabama to win" are so brain-dead.
Gosh, I wonder what the excuse will be in the SIXTH CONSECUTIVE WEEK that the CFPC ranks Notre Dame ahead of Miami. You'll have to explain it to me after BYU loses and Alabama wins and Miami misses the CFP by one spot. AGAIN.
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You typed all that bs just to obviously be wrong lmao.
You think the committee is MORE LIKELY to put us in over an SEC Championship game loser than the team we beat H2H and ALL THE MEDIA is clamoring for us to rank ahead of . This is 10x worse than you’d dumbass Nike arguments lmao
Alabama is a 100% lock for the CFP period. You’d have to be a complete ******* moron to actually believe our odds are better to jump bama for the final CFP spot than to jump Notre Dame with the head to head win.
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The CFP has been doing rankings since 2014.
2014: SEC-CG loser Missouri 16-to-16 (after Wisconsin lost to Ohio Taint 59-0 in the Big 10-CG and plummeted below Mizzou)
2015: SEC-CG loser Florida 18-down-to-19
2016: SEC-CG loser Florida 15-down-to-17
2017: SEC-CG loser Auburn 2-down-to-7
2018: SEC-CG loser Georgia 4-down-to-5
2019: SEC-CG loser Georgia 4-down-to-5
2020: SEC-CG loser Florida 6-down-to-7
2021: SEC-CG loser Georgia 1-down-to-3
2022: SEC-CG loser LSU 14-down-to-17
2023: SEC-CG loser Georgia 1-down-to-6
2024: SEC-CG loser Texas (in OT) 2-down-to-3
I can do the same for the other P5/P4 conferences if anyone wants to belabor the point.
2014: SEC-CG loser Missouri 16-to-16 (after Wisconsin lost to Ohio Taint 59-0 in the Big 10-CG and plummeted below Mizzou)
2015: SEC-CG loser Florida 18-down-to-19
2016: SEC-CG loser Florida 15-down-to-17
2017: SEC-CG loser Auburn 2-down-to-7
2018: SEC-CG loser Georgia 4-down-to-5
2019: SEC-CG loser Georgia 4-down-to-5
2020: SEC-CG loser Florida 6-down-to-7
2021: SEC-CG loser Georgia 1-down-to-3
2022: SEC-CG loser LSU 14-down-to-17
2023: SEC-CG loser Georgia 1-down-to-6
2024: SEC-CG loser Texas (in OT) 2-down-to-3
I can do the same for the other P5/P4 conferences if anyone wants to belabor the point.
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I just proved you wrong with my very next post. The CFP has always "penalized" the loser of the SEC-CG (except for the one time it didn't matter and Wisconsin **** the bed harder than Mizzou did).
11 data points. TEN TIMES the CFPC "penalized" the SEC-CG loser. FIVE TIMES the CFPC "penalized" the SEC-CG loser by 2 or more ranking positions.
History and facts will ALWAYS trump your misguided opinions and fake "100%" percentages.
The "MEDIA" has been "clamoring" for the CFPC to rank Miami ahead of Notre Dame for five consecutive weeks, and for five consecutive weeks the CFPC has said "NO". The sixth time is not the charm.
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Bama's in.
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That STILL might happen. But it won't be based on some fake and inaccurate rule like "the CFPC will not penalize any conference championship game losers".
Alabama could lose and the CFPC might only penalize them one spot. Which is, of course, why they put Alabama over Notre Dame this week.
I realize the fear that Sankey strikes in the feeble hearts of the CFPC. However, we need to root for Alabama to **** the bed so hard that the CFPC cannot ignore the stench.
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Disagree. Miami's only hope is to get directly next to ND, and pray the committee can't help but flip them based on the H2H.
Texas Tech and Alabama winning is the best/easiest way to that outcome. If Bama loses, there's a chance they move them to 10, creating a buffer (again) between Miami and ND that they can use as an excuse to not weigh H2H.
Go Bama. Go Texas Tech.
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It's not politicking, Manny. It's math.
How many VOTES did Duke have on either the AP poll or the Coaches poll this week?
Zero-point-zero.
Is Duke currently ranked by the CFP? And, Manny, are Tulane, North Texas, and James Madison currently ranked by the CFP?
So this ************ Manny Diaz is putting all of his faith on 8-4 Troy to beat 11-1 James Madison? And/or that the winner of Jacksonville State vs. Kennesaw State won't be ranked higher than Duke? And/or that the winner of Western Michigan vs. Miami of Ohio won't be ranked higher than Duke? And/or that the winner of Boise State vs. UNLV won't be ranked higher than Duke?
Manny is insane. I would venture to bet that at least three of the five G5 champions will be ranked higher than Duke if Duke wins the ACC.
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I’d agree that Bama getting absolutely blown out could be best case for us. But A) that’s EXTREMELY unlikely. And a bama close loss IS worst case scenario, period. A bama win is more likely than a bama blowout loss to a team they already beat who Kerby has what like 2 wins over in last decade?
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That is not the only hope, and it's disingenuous to say so.
We are 0-for-5 for the past 5 consecutive weeks with the "but head-to-head puts Miami ahead of Notre Dame" argument.
Meanwhile, in the last 10 consecutive years, the SEC-CG loser has ALWAYS been penalized by the CFP, five times by 2 or more spots.
Hmmmm...what is our "only hope"...the one where we are batting 0.000 or the one that has worked 50% of the time for the past 10 years.
Hmmmm...zero-point-zero or 50%...hmmmm...
Which one is more likely to occur....hmmmm...
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And a Bama win AND a Bama blowout loss are BOTH more likely to happen than for the CFPC to suddenly and belatedly change its mind about applying the head-to-head outcome of the Week 1 Miami-Notre Dame game.
Head-to-head is not happening. The CFPC will invent any reason NOT to do it. They don't care. It doesn't matter. We have been in the SAME POD as Notre Dame for two weeks, and they simply will not use the head-to-head.
But, sure, keep trying to pull open a push-door. Again, you have NO RESPONSE to the factual proof that the CFPC has "penalized" the loser of the SEC-CG every single year for 10 consecutive years, with 5 of those 10 instances involving 2 or more ranking spots.
But you're going to stay focused on how Alabama can't lose, and certainly can't be blown out. That remains to be seen.
The CFP has penalized the SEC-CG loser EVERY YEAR for 10 consecutive years, ranging from 1 spot to 5 spots. We only need TWO spots.
Tell me again how "unlikely" it is...because that will be a lie.
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Miami and ND have never been back to back in the rankings. The committee has gone 14/14 this cycle with putting the team with the H2H win above the team with the H2H loss when the teams are back to back.
We want to get as close to ND as possible. The best way to do that is to have them stay put at 10, and have BYU drop. No need to get any murkier than that. Go Bama.