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MEGA There’s Still Hope for the ACCCG/CFB Playoffs Mega Merge Thread

Mario when he sees all the heat on the committee.

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As Jimmy said,
Never leave it in the hands of the official. In this case, the corrupt committee.
 
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aelmiami said:
He said they wanted to clarify that idle teams can move up. It wasn’t clear last year. To me it means one of two things. They are giving Bama a bit of a runway. Win, or lose close they’ll be no less than 9 imo.

BYU with one loss is ahead of us. But if they drop their game vs TT we’d move up. Then it becomes a ND vs Miami debate. Not Miami vs BYU vs ND. I’m not saying BYU should be ranked above us, but a ND vs Miami debate is drastically different than the three of us.
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But if Bama loses doesn’t it become a Miami vs. Bama vs. ND debate instead?
 
Another data point of SEC conference champs Is that 4 sec schools finished with same records. Bama and Georgia won tie breakers to get in, same with the ACC, this conference tie breakers are dumb as well. Highest ranked in conference should get the ACCCG
 
We’reBeckCane said:
But if Bama loses doesn’t it become a Miami vs. Bama vs. ND debate instead?
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Well it’s all relative.

Bama would have to lose convincingly. You’d be able to make a strong argument they are descending based on how they’ve performed the last four weeks.

But if Bama loses to the #2 team who they already beat close, would that warrant ND jumping them? I’d argue that’s more impressive than beating Auburn. And the chair was basically gargling Bama’s balls over that tonight.

Best case Bama wins. BYU loses. ND won’t jump OU. If they would’ve they would’ve done it by now. So OU would slot to 9 ND 10 and Miami 11. Now the argument then turns into us vs ND. As dumb as it sounds, I think BYU going 11-1 is preventing us from jumping ND.

Kinda why Texas hasn’t jumped us. Texas has better wins than us, but a far worse loss. We have a better win than BYU. But BYU didn’t lose to its inferior opponents. They only lost to the #4 team in the CFP. Right now I think what’s preventing a debate between us and ND is purely BYU. If we move to 11 I truly believe H2H will win out. But I’m a hopeless optimist.
 
aelmiami said:
Well it’s all relative.

Bama would have to lose convincingly. You’d be able to make a strong argument they are descending based on how they’ve performed the last four weeks.

But if Bama loses to the #2 team who they already beat close, would that warrant ND jumping them? I’d argue that’s more impressive than beating Auburn. And the chair was basically gargling Bama’s balls over that tonight.

Best case Bama wins. BYU loses. ND won’t jump OU. If they would’ve they would’ve done it by now. So OU would slot to 9 ND 10 and Miami 11. Now the argument then turns into us vs ND. As dumb as it sounds, I think BYU going 11-1 is preventing us from jumping ND.

Kinda why Texas hasn’t jumped us. Texas has better wins than us, but a far worse loss. We have a better win than BYU. But BYU didn’t lose to its inferior opponents. They only lost to the #4 team in the CFP. Right now I think what’s preventing a debate between us and ND is purely BYU. If we move to 11 I truly believe H2H will win out. But I’m a hopeless optimist.
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If Miami and ND are so comparable than why is one in front of BYU and the other behind? Seems like more of an excuse than an actual tough equation.
 
We’reBeckCane said:
But if Bama loses doesn’t it become a Miami vs. Bama vs. ND debate instead?
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If Bamas loses, it should become a Miami vs. Bama vs ND debate, but it won't.

I think the committee has already told us that over the course of the last few weeks. It's almost as if our win over ND never happened and Bama's loss to FSU never happened. Wild.
 
We’reBeckCane said:
If Miami and ND are so comparable than why is one in front of BYU and the other behind? Seems like more of an excuse than an actual tough equation.
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I agree. I’m just laying out how I’m viewing this from my couch. We’ve done enough to jump every two loss team from 12-17 since the first rankings. BYU fell from 8 to 12. Still ahead of us and ND moved and stayed at 9 until tonight.

We slowly moved into the argument with them. Our OOC schedule trumps BYU’s. But BYU played three ranked or worthy of being ranked teams in conference. Just like we did. But they went 2-1 and we went 1-2. Playing USF, UF and ND OOC is what’s saving us. Say our one T25 win was vs GT. We’d have no argument over ND, if say their second T12 loss was to OU or someone. Doesn’t matter. It’s the H2H propping us up. It’s our only leg to stand on rn.

But if BYU loses again to a CFP team, then their resume becomes argument becomes are they a CFP caliber team? Sure you can beat the 18th ranked team but not a top 12 team. While our argument is we can beat a CFP caliber team. Which moves us past them. Then the H2H vs ND looms large vs ND. Again, is extremely convoluted but that’s how I’m reading it.
 
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We’reBeckCane said:
All these guys care about is power and control. Part of that is having the SCORE Act pass in the House tomorrow and later in the senate. Margin is extremely tight. If one or two Florida GOP House members held out tomorrow the SEC and Big Ten would be apoplectic. There is no bigger priority for them right now.
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I Dare You Do It GIF
 
Seen a lot of bull**** but David hale saying Texas should be the angriest team is probably the biggest bull**** I’ve seen. No clue why he grouped us in with byu for second place.

But what ****ed me off is espn’s such a nickel and dime organization nowadays that he and his editor (if he even has one) didn’t even catch his mistake of including us in this grouping
And it's not as if the committee believes an extra loss is disqualifying. Oklahoma, Alabama, Notre Dame and Miami all have two losses and are ranked ahead of one-loss BYU (more on that in a moment), so what's the harm of moving a three-loss Texas ahead of a two-loss team that has accomplished less?
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50 shades of gaslighting the past four weeks.
 
IrishFan said:
Did you know that Miami was ranked ahead of Louisville when both teams were 7-2 and Louisville won head to head?
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When USF was ranked 24th at 7-2 and Texas had the same record (with a UF loss, who Miami and USF beat).

Thus justifying us above Louisville. You guys have no better wins than us
 
So we're essentially pulling for 2 things to happen that have already happened earlier this year: a Bama win over UGA (toss up), and a Texas Tech blowout of BYU (likely).

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
 
TrojanCane said:
So we're essentially pulling for 2 things to happen that have already happened earlier this year: a Bama win over UGA (toss up), and a Texas Tech blowout of BYU (likely).

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Why is a bama win preferable? Not that I feel like they’ll do right by us, but a bama loss still feels like the better outcome. Especially if it’s a smashing.
 
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cookies said:
Why is a bama win preferable? Not that I feel like they’ll do right by us, but a bama loss still feels like the better outcome. Especially if it’s a smashing.
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No one believes (even the people backing us in the ND conversation) that a participant in the SEC title game is gonna get knocked out of the playoff. So hope Bama wins so as not to give the clowns on the committee any reason to separate us from Notre Dame in the rankings
 
cookies said:
Why is a bama win preferable? Not that I feel like they’ll do right by us, but a bama loss still feels like the better outcome. Especially if it’s a smashing.
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The logic is that the committee would likely only drop Bama one spot if they lose, swapping places with ND.

This would keep ND 2 spots ahead of Miami, thereby giving the committee “buffer” to not consider the H2H win Miami had over ND.
 
cookies said:
Why is a bama win preferable? Not that I feel like they’ll do right by us, but a bama loss still feels like the better outcome. Especially if it’s a smashing.
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Bama wins guarantees they will not rank lower than 9. That means 10 MUST come down to Notre Dame, BYU, and Miami. A BYU win guarantees them the 10 seed (well technically they could go higher but thats irrelevant or us) and in the CFP which means us and Notre Dame are out. However if Bama is guaranteed a top 9 seed due to winning AND BYU loses and thus likely drops AT LEAST 1 spot, it means Notre Dame and Miami are H2H comparison for 10 and 11 seed. Are they going to keep saying H2H doesn't matter when we are Literally ranked right next to eachother AND it is for a FINAL playoff spot. Top 10 seed are the playoffs given ACC/G5 conference champs will rank lower than 10 but still get the 11&12 Seed.

Ohio St, Indiana, and UGA are Imo locked into the three of the top 4 seeds. If Bama wins they likely jump to #3 and UGA slides to 4, and TTU drops out to 5... Unless they kill BYU again then MAYBE they are at 3 and Bama rises to 4 and UGA is at 5. But I think that it is unlikely UGA which ENTERED Conf Champ game with a Bye will LOSE that bye for losing to Bama. Would probably have to be blowout. And if there is 1 fact it is that the SEC and B1G champ are getting a 1st round Bye. Especially since Bama finished 1st in the SEC regular season standings technically.

So in total if Bama beats UGA it WILL be:
1. Winner of Ohio St vs Indiana
2. Loser of Ohio St vs Indiana
3. Alabama
4. UGA (unless blowout loss, then TTU could jump them)
5. Texas Tech
6. Oregon ...
7. Ole Miss
8. A&M
9. Oklahoma
10. BYU IF THEY WIN otherwise a Choice between MIAMI OR NOTRE DAME
11. UVA if they Beat Duke, otherwise Winner of Tulane vs North Texas
12. JMU IF Duke beats UVA, otherwise Winner of Tulane vs North Texas.
 
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TrojanCane said:
So we're essentially pulling for 2 things to happen that have already happened earlier this year: a Bama win over UGA (toss up), and a Texas Tech blowout of BYU (likely).

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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TTU doesn't have to blowout BYU, they just have to beat them. BYU is +390 to make the CFP on FanDuel right now. They are +400 to beat TTU. Their only chance to get in the playoff is to beat TTU
 
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