MEGA There’s Still Hope for the ACCCG/CFB Playoffs Mega Merge Thread

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Are you sure other metrics don't matter more?

This is alice in wonderland through the looking glass stuff. We played. We won. They lost. I get what you're saying those metrics are the ones that matter to the committee, and we are cooked if we don't get help, but it's still completely absurd.
I think it’s as simple as recency bias. You’re better off losing early in the year because over time you climb back up the rankings and people start to diminish the significance of the result.
 
Too many moving parts to say. It’s not just those 2 teams. I’m just telling you the 2 teams in Atlanta are in. A gazillion percent. Sankey would literally have the families of the committee members killed if they tried to pull that ****.


Disagree.

Even if Alabama is left out, the SEC would have FOUR teams in. They only had THREE last year.

They'd LOVE to have 5. They'd live with 4. CFP Committee family members will be killed if the SEC only gets 3.

And if the SEC "only" gets 4 teams in, they will figure out a rules tweak to get 5 next year. It's the SEC Way. The annual battle for more money.
 
I think it’s as simple as recency bias. You’re better off losing early in the year because over time you climb back up the rankings and people start to diminish the significance of the result.
Sure. Bama is the case in point here. They lost to FSU, lulz, to start the year and it doesn't matter anymore. If they lose to Auburn and miss the playoff they're going to miss the playoff cause they lost to Auburn & Oklahoma, not FSU.

The CFP isn't deciding between FSU & Bama for one of the final spots though. Miami and ND will have played 4 common opponents and played each other. I just can't wrap my head around how what happened in the other 7 games is much more important (3 spots in the rankings) than what happened when the teams played each other. Violates everything I learned from playing sports growing up.
 
I like our chances… think about how many people believed we would have these chances immediately following the SMU loss
 
i will say it is pretty ****** of lane to do what hes doing with OM given their ranking and season. either announce youre gone or extend. either way, i think they lose the egg bowl bc there is no way this isnt a distraction for the team
 
Of course. The committee showed their hand. They will avoid the head to head comparison at all cost. So we need someone ahead of us to lose on rivalry weekend cause they don’t punish conference championship attendance. Pulling up to right next to Notre dame was our only hope.

Now the hope rests with Charlotte


Yes they do.
 
i will say it is pretty ****** of lane to do what hes doing with OM given their ranking and season. either announce youre gone or extend. either way, i think they lose the egg bowl bc there is no way this isnt a distraction for the team

Would be huge for us if they do. They already dropped to 7, if they lose the Egg Bowl plus if Lane says he's leaving on Saturday, they can easily drop to #11 and be out.
 
If we win this week and they move us above BYU, does the common opponent with Bama (FSU) start to matter? And then would we be 1 spot next to ND and that H2H matters?

I don’t think so but it seems like they won’t compare our common opponents or H2H unless we’re directly next to a team (despite previous comments about being in the same pod or within 3 spots…). So in theory another ranked win this weekend could lead to some movement but I’m sure the committee will make some other excuse.
 
Ari makes a point here that I haven't heard anywhere else - he essentially said that Notre Dame's strength of schedule metrics are being propped up by teams that they LOST to. Hypothetically, if a team played top 25 teams every game on their schedule and lost every single one, they'd have the #1 SOS metric in the nation.

And of course, this is all to say that these teams played already and we got a result. Miami won. You have to earn your way into the playoff and if it comes down to Miami vs. Notre Dame, Miami has EARNED the spot.
The road marker analogy was superb
 
If we win this week and they move us above BYU, does the common opponent with Bama (FSU) start to matter? And then would we be 1 spot next to ND and that H2H matters?

I don’t think so but it seems like they won’t compare our common opponents or H2H unless we’re directly next to a team (despite previous comments about being in the same pod or within 3 spots…). So in theory another ranked win this weekend could lead to some movement but I’m sure the committee will make some other excuse.
ND is in no matter what as long as they win out of course
 
I mean if your bama with 2 losses and lose to a&m you dont deserve to go to the playoffs. Thats there shot to get in or how it should be imo
 
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32% no-vig odds we make the playoff. FanDuel lowered the “No” odds from -290 to -280 to -250 since last night.
 
A 3 loss team being your best win doesn’t constitute a playoff berth.


You said that ND didn't have any opponents (besides Miami and aTm) that were above .500. That was incorrect.

And you can slam USC all you'd like. but they are ranked #17. That is a quality win.

We are about to beat 22nd-RANKED Pitt and give them their 4th loss. That will be a quality win too.

For the record, Boise State also has a record above .500 and that will remain above .500. And NC State has a 6-5 record currently. And Pitt also has a record above .500 and that will remain above .500.

So ND played six opponents that are above .500. Miami and aTm (losses) and USC, Pitt, NC State, and Boise State (wins).

The USC and Pitt wins are good wins.


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