The Work 6-3

[grover]

No one can put on tape and seriously justify Gregory Rousseau over a Chatfield...

No one except for Coach Kool & El Hefe Diaz...

But hey, wtf do they know right?

Yeah, it's clear to me that they're not looking at today's production, but projecting into where the two will be in 2-3 years.

Have Campbell or Silvera ever said they are a package deal? I've only seen that on here. If the AH kids are all a package deal, wouldn't that be a first for that school? And why isn't Surtain in the package, while our verbals are? Chicken Little syndrome or legitimate concern?

 

[gogeta4]

I know there different type of players but I'd take Joyner and chattfield over Greg R.

I think a quick analysis will hopefully get the Rousseau vs. Chatfield doubters some level of reality to consider before sulking into their own evaluations and belief that it'll mean we instantly get Campbell:

1. Kool evaluated both and "he" decided Rousseau was a better prospect to give a commitable offer!!

2. Who is faster? Hint- go see Rousseau's WR highlights.

3. Rousseau also has the "length" and "frame" to add weight, strength and muscle while still bettering his speed.

4. Versatility!! Given Rousseau's "superior speed" and size he can easily play DE and a hybrid LB role effectively.

5. Potential? The Tackles in college will be bigger and faster- fact. Rousseau's size after a rs season will be at minimum 6'5" 245 lbs. He'll be more capable to handle to physically handle college tackles. Plus no denying the kid can fly for a guy his size.

Chatfield no doubt is a quality prospect and worthy of an offer, but lets not qualify his worthiness by saying he's a better "prospect" than Rousseau. I also think the staff believes Chatfield effectiveness not be the same against college level tackles and he does not have the speed and versatility to switch to LB. Joyner does and I think that's why he's being pursued over Chatfield.

Your adding 40 pounds to Rousseau frame and saying he will be able to handle college tackles when he currently doesn't handle high school tackles. He is ALL potential...I like him as a SLB..but not as a DE he's wayyy light and don't know his effectiveness at the de spot especially with a weight gain.

 

[gogeta4]

No one can put on tape and seriously justify Gregory Rousseau over a Chatfield...

No one except for Coach Kool & El Hefe Diaz...

But hey, wtf do they know right?

Yeah, it's clear to me that they're not looking at today's production, but projecting into where the two will be in 2-3 years.

Have Campbell or Silvera ever said they are a package deal? I've only seen that on here. If the AH kids are all a package deal, wouldn't that be a first for that school? And why isn't Surtain in the package, while our verbals are? Chicken Little syndrome or legitimate concern?

no one here even said they were a package deal. Its the guys on the other side of the Chatfield offer trying to say it..to show hes some sort of weaker prospect...meanwhile he is committed to OSU.

 

[Rellyrell]

I know there different type of players but I'd take Joyner and chattfield over Greg R.

I think a quick analysis will hopefully get the Rousseau vs. Chatfield doubters some level of reality to consider before sulking into their own evaluations and belief that it'll mean we instantly get Campbell:

1. Kool evaluated both and "he" decided Rousseau was a better prospect to give a commitable offer!!

2. Who is faster? Hint- go see Rousseau's WR highlights.

3. Rousseau also has the "length" and "frame" to add weight, strength and muscle while still bettering his speed.

4. Versatility!! Given Rousseau's "superior speed" and size he can easily play DE and a hybrid LB role effectively.

5. Potential? The Tackles in college will be bigger and faster- fact. Rousseau's size after a rs season will be at minimum 6'5" 245 lbs. He'll be more capable to handle to physically handle college tackles. Plus no denying the kid can fly for a guy his size.

Chatfield no doubt is a quality prospect and worthy of an offer, but lets not qualify his worthiness by saying he's a better "prospect" than Rousseau. I also think the staff believes Chatfield effectiveness not be the same against college level tackles and he does not have the speed and versatility to switch to LB. Joyner does and I think that's why he's being pursued over Chatfield.

Your adding 40 pounds to Rousseau frame and saying he will be able to handle college tackles when he currently doesn't handle high school tackles. He is ALL potential...I like him as a SLB..but not as a DE he's wayyy light and don't know his effectiveness at the de spot especially with a weight gain.

This. Rousseau is more Leonard Floyd imo. High potential as a rush LB, but not a hand in the ground DE like AC. At the end of the day, if and when AC shows out at Paradise, he'll get an offer and I expect Kool to be on him. Give me both, but I think we're comparing apples and oranges with these two.

 

[hamburgerhipster]

No one can put on tape and seriously justify Gregory Rousseau over a Chatfield...

No one except for Coach Kool & El Hefe Diaz...

But hey, wtf do they know right?

Yeah, it's clear to me that they're not looking at today's production, but projecting into where the two will be in 2-3 years.

Have Campbell or Silvera ever said they are a package deal? I've only seen that on here. If the AH kids are all a package deal, wouldn't that be a first for that school? And why isn't Surtain in the package, while our verbals are? Chicken Little syndrome or legitimate concern?

no one here even said they were a package deal. Its the guys on the other side of the Chatfield offer trying to say it..to show hes some sort of weaker prospect...meanwhile he is committed to OSU.

I trust Kool as much as any dline coach but I trust Urbans ability to
Identify talent more.

Rousseau has awesome upside but that's all he is right now. Kool
Must have amazing confidence in himself to develop this kid because he's incredibly raw.

Chatfield is a take for osu and orgeron at lsu but not us?

And give me Joyner and either Reese or Sherwood at lb.

 

[UMFarArcher]

We have a wealth of top talent evaluators here.

One could say, a plethora.

 

[Fzac75]

We have a wealth of top talent evaluators here.

One could say, a plethora.

Jefe what is a plethora?


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[cubin10]

No one can put on tape and seriously justify Gregory Rousseau over a Chatfield...

No one except for Coach Kool & El Hefe Diaz...

But hey, wtf do they know right?

touche

 

[Torocane]

No one can put on tape and seriously justify Gregory Rousseau over a Chatfield...

No one except for Coach Kool & El Hefe Diaz...

But hey, wtf do they know right?

Yeah, it's clear to me that they're not looking at today's production, but projecting into where the two will be in 2-3 years.

Have Campbell or Silvera ever said they are a package deal? I've only seen that on here. If the AH kids are all a package deal, wouldn't that be a first for that school? And why isn't Surtain in the package, while our verbals are? Chicken Little syndrome or legitimate concern?

no one here even said they were a package deal. Its the guys on the other side of the Chatfield offer trying to say it..to show hes some sort of weaker prospect...meanwhile he is committed to OSU.

I trust Kool as much as any dline coach but I trust Urbans ability to
Identify talent more.

Rousseau has awesome upside but that's all he is right now. Kool
Must have amazing confidence in himself to develop this kid because he's incredibly raw.

Chatfield is a take for osu and orgeron at lsu but not us?

And give me Joyner and either Reese or Sherwood at lb.

Urbans ability to find talent?
Are you taking into account his last few years at uf.
If think the more fair statement is "urbans ability to sign top rated talent"

 

[WestEndZone]

I wonder if Joyner has ever played linebacker. If he can handle Sam responsibilities, he could provide some flexibility. We showed odd fronts multiple times last year without changing personnel. All we did was bump the defensive line weak, stand up one of the ends and, if formation dicated as such, move the Sam to an overhang alignment (mirroring the stand up DE).

Manny liked to use it as a changeup. On run downs, he would bring 4 and slant the DL strong; on passing downs, he used it to zone blitz. Slanting the DL without blitzing personnel is really just a run stunt. Doing it out of an odd front creates uncertainty for OL presnap assignments, and ultimately is allows for lateral penetration--a lot of times someone goes unblocked. I like the idea of having at least one hybrid body type on defense. It allows you to be multiple enough to create confusion when necessary. Like I said before, Manny liked to use that odd front--using even personnel--as a changeup in multiple situations.

It seems like we're trying to recruit to create a hybrid position. Should be fun to monitor.

 

[Paranos]

Peter also dropped an interesting nugget for those listening closely. He said the 2018 class was full when you consider both public and silent commits. An considering Coach Right only accepts public or silent commits from players who have visited campus, that is very telling of our recruiting at DT/NT for 2018 and also our oline spots as well.

So hmmmm I wonder whom our silent DT commits are?

Who has visited campus, this spring?

Go Canes

 

[RVACane]

Peter also dropped an interesting nugget for those listening closely. He said the 2018 class was full when you consider both public and silent commits. An considering Coach Right only accepts public or silent commits from players who have visited campus, that is very telling of our recruiting at DT/NT for 2018 and also our oline spots as well.

So hmmmm I wonder whom our silent DT commits are?

Go Canes

Stop teasing us!

Briggs???

 

[Drewny1]

I highly doubt the class is full

 

[The Franchise]

Hill isn't the coach anymore

Wait a bit while Mahoney comes up with some lame **** to weasel around this.

You actually spend time on the internet to post that? And LMFAO at the up-votes to this worthless loser..

Put some salve on that boo boo, fckboy.

:q3XKXeX:

nah, you make me laugh. I don't take you, or your army of spineless supplicants and feeble-minded orbiters seriously. If you want to speak on something then do it like man, on or off thread. All this predacious pecking you enjoy may be a form of stimulation in your "Tearoom Trade" subculture, but it's really beneath me and makes you seem desperate for attention.

It's beneath you, yet you're sitting there with your thesaurus taking the time to look up words to make yourself seem intelligent as you engage in back and forth.

 

[tyrn]

Am I the only one who hopes we fill up with the following LBs before going hard after Joyner?

Reese
Louis
Sherwood

 

[RVACane]

Somebody in this thread is overreacting as usual and making a bigger deal of something than it really is...just saying.

 

[gogeta4]

We have a wealth of top talent evaluators here.

One could say, a plethora.

we've always had. That's why this is the best cane board going. We'll break the glass in case we need your top flight scouting eye some day

 

[gogeta4]

I know there different type of players but I'd take Joyner and chattfield over Greg R.

I think a quick analysis will hopefully get the Rousseau vs. Chatfield doubters some level of reality to consider before sulking into their own evaluations and belief that it'll mean we instantly get Campbell:

1. Kool evaluated both and "he" decided Rousseau was a better prospect to give a commitable offer!!

2. Who is faster? Hint- go see Rousseau's WR highlights.

3. Rousseau also has the "length" and "frame" to add weight, strength and muscle while still bettering his speed.

4. Versatility!! Given Rousseau's "superior speed" and size he can easily play DE and a hybrid LB role effectively.

5. Potential? The Tackles in college will be bigger and faster- fact. Rousseau's size after a rs season will be at minimum 6'5" 245 lbs. He'll be more capable to handle to physically handle college tackles. Plus no denying the kid can fly for a guy his size.

Chatfield no doubt is a quality prospect and worthy of an offer, but lets not qualify his worthiness by saying he's a better "prospect" than Rousseau. I also think the staff believes Chatfield effectiveness not be the same against college level tackles and he does not have the speed and versatility to switch to LB. Joyner does and I think that's why he's being pursued over Chatfield.

Your adding 40 pounds to Rousseau frame and saying he will be able to handle college tackles when he currently doesn't handle high school tackles. He is ALL potential...I like him as a SLB..but not as a DE he's wayyy light and don't know his effectiveness at the de spot especially with a weight gain.

This. Rousseau is more Leonard Floyd imo. High potential as a rush LB, but not a hand in the ground DE like AC. At the end of the day, if and when AC shows out at Paradise, he'll get an offer and I expect Kool to be on him. Give me both, but I think we're comparing apples and oranges with these two.

Rousseau positives are his "flexibility". He has ability to play on the back end, or blitzing off the edge. The problem I see is ...people saying well Kul offered Rousseau..he must be better as a de. Well he isn't close to Chatfield as a de prospect. And Rousseau buzz and offer came from camp last year in shirts an shorts where he showed that flexibility with the ability to play at the three spots. Things are a lot different when pads are on and you can really see physicality. But I don't think if were talking straight from a defensive line ability they are even close. Apples and oranges foreal.
You sell me on what Manny wants to do with him...im all in...If your saying this 205-210 kid is a big time de prospect I'm looking at you like your crazy.

 

[Memnon]

Coach Kool took a 6'4 220lbs 2-star DE (Charles Harris) who had 0 offers & turned him into a 1st round Draft pick.

And that's not the first or only time Kool has done that either... He literally has a 15 year track record of producing 1st round NFL lineman.

He did those things at a program like Mizzou with extremely scarce resources, he basically took whatever he could get & made Diamonds out of dirt... That's his expertise.

Now at Miami, he has total autonomy with who he gets to recruit at DL, he doesn't have to run it by Richt, if he thinks a kid deserves an offer, that kid's getting an offer.

He also has a lot greater resources at Miami, he gets the pick of the litter talent wise, and the fact we already have a loaded DL, he can be even more picky in this class. Essentially, he can afford to take a project that isn't a ready made product as of now.

They want Rousseau because of how they project him to be 2/3 years down the line, they're not looking for him to be a day 1 starter.

Kool is also after higher targets, they clearly know who Chatfield is & if they were worried about some kind of package deal with other AH kids they would've went down that road a long time ago.

Oh St has to offer Chatfield to increase their chances with guys like Nesta & Campbell, but we don't, we can get both without the parlor tricks.

 

[Bunker Mentality]

Wait a bit while Mahoney comes up with some lame **** to weasel around this.

You actually spend time on the internet to post that? And LMFAO at the up-votes to this worthless loser..

Put some salve on that boo boo, fckboy.

:q3XKXeX:

nah, you make me laugh. I don't take you, or your army of spineless supplicants and feeble-minded orbiters seriously. If you want to speak on something then do it like man, on or off thread. All this predacious pecking you enjoy may be a form of stimulation in your "Tearoom Trade" subculture, but it's really beneath me and makes you seem desperate for attention.

It's beneath you, yet you're sitting there with your thesaurus taking the time to look up words to make yourself seem intelligent as you engage in back and forth.

very much beneath me, but directness and consistent boundaries are necessary for intrusive-type bulls of your proclivity. The likes of which i've encountered before and know your strongest emotion to be shame.. That's why you thrive in these anonymous or clandestine settings where you can recreate an identity (black?) and orientation (ambiguous?) that fits you better than the one nature or society imposed. In fact, it's your kind that makes me hesitant to shower at the Y.