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The US Naval Academy had more players drafted than FSU

That Triple-Option Wing-T Offense is the most annoying & frustrating Offense to prepare for as a Defense.

You can study film on it for an entire offseason & you're still gonna be unprepared against it.

I fuxkin hate the Fullback Dive.
 
Memnon said:
That Triple-Option Wing-T Offense is the most annoying & frustrating Offense to prepare for as a Defense.

You can study film on it for an entire offseason & you're still gonna be unprepared against it.

I fuxkin hate the Fullback Dive.
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The offense has become even more frustrating to prepare and play against these last few years as their current OC Cronic has incorporated pass concepts to their playbook. Not exactly AirRaid but enough that one can't simply prepare against run option. Alot of bigger programs are copying some of their stuff.
 
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Memnon said:
That Triple-Option Wing-T Offense is the most annoying & frustrating Offense to prepare for as a Defense.

You can study film on it for an entire offseason & you're still gonna be unprepared against it.

I fuxkin hate the Fullback Dive.
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In their history, the service academies have scored some major upsets against teams with way more talent, in large part because of what you just mentioned. Mostly the Naval Academy.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Navy one of the teams that drove a stake though the heart of Mr. parade float with the “decided schematic advantage” Charlie Weis in his last year at ND.
 
Norvell heading into year 7 looking like he’s taking over a rebuild

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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
In their history, the service academies have scored some major upsets against teams with way more talent, in large part because of what you just mentioned. Mostly the Naval Academy.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Navy one of the teams that drove a stake though the heart of Mr. parade float with the “decided schematic advantage” Charlie Weis in his last year at ND.
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Yes! Navy won at ND back in 2007 under Paul Johnson.
Air Force started it vs ND during the 1980s under Ken Hatfield.
Army took AF's cue and implemented the wishbone, scrapped it 2000 when they hired ECU's OC Todd Berry, but eventually returned to it when they hired Monken (Johnson disciple) from Georgia Southern.
I am probably in the minority as a Cane fan, but I enjoy watching their offenses. All three bring different twists, but contrary to popular belief, they are creative, constantly evolving, and many coaches at all levels copy some of their stuff, including Mario.
I can see why Mario and Mike Viti were mutually attracted to their respective resumes (pause?).
 
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MedleyCane said:
Yes! Navy won at ND back in 2007 under Paul Johnson.
Air Force started it vs ND during the 1980s under Ken Hatfield.
Army took AF's cue and implemented the wishbone, scrapped it 2000 when they hired ECU's OC Todd Berry, but eventually returned to it when they hired Monken (Johnson disciple) at Georgia Southern.
I am probably in the minority as a Cane fan, but I enjoy watching their offenses. All three bring different twists, but contrary to popular belief, they are creative, constantly evolving, and many coaches at all levels copy some of their stuff, including Mario.
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Unless it were the Canes, I always pull for the three military academies (knew it had been a while, but 51 seasons have passed since we last played any of 'em)
  • UM 2-0 vs Air Force (last game 1962)
  • UM 3-0 vs Army (last game 1971)
  • UM 3-2 vs Navy (last game 1975)
 
Hold My Beer said:
Unless it were the Canes, I always pull for the three military academies (knew it had been a while, but 51 seasons have passed since we last played any of 'em)
  • UM 2-0 vs Air Force (last game 1962)
  • UM 3-0 vs Army (last game 1971)
  • UM 3-2 vs Navy (last game 1975)
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Interesting. I didn’t even know we had played them in the past, granted the last game was more than 50 years ago, but still I should probably have known that.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Interesting. I didn’t even know we had played them in the past, granted the last game was more than 50 years ago, but still I should probably have known that.
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Quick Google search:

"November 7, 1975: On this day 50 years ago, Navy defeated the University of Miami 17-16 in front of a homecoming crowd of 18,987 fans at the Orange Bowl. The game was a happy homecoming for Navy quarterback John Kurowski, who was a 1974 graduate of Hollywood Hills High School in Broward County"

Canes fan since '74, but I didn't recall anything about playing Navy. But our family lived in rural Escambia County at the time, so there wasn't ever much Miami news in those days.

We finished 2-8 under Carl Selmer, but check out the schedule: 😯

at Georgia Tech
(then Big 8 murderer's row for 3 weeks)
Oklahoma
at Nebraska
Colorado
Houston
at Boston College
Navy
at FSU
Notre Dame
UF
 
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Hold My Beer said:
Quick Google search:

"November 7, 1975: On this day 50 years ago, Navy defeated the University of Miami 17-16 in front of a homecoming crowd of 18,987 fans at the Orange Bowl. The game was a happy homecoming for Navy quarterback John Kurowski, who was a 1974 graduate of Hollywood Hills High School in Broward County"

Canes fan since '74, but I didn't recall anything about playing Navy. But we lived in rural Escambia County at the time, so there wasn't ever a lot of Miami in those days.

We finished 2-8 under Carl Selmer, but check out the schedule: 😯

at Georgia Tech
(then Big 8 murderer's row for 3 weeks)
Oklahoma
@nebraska
Colorado
Houston
@Boston College
Navy
@FSU
Notre Dame
UF
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Thanks for the historical perspective. That was a **** of a schedule. I know Miami had some good years way back when, but that sure wasn’t one of them.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Thanks for the historical perspective. That was a **** of a schedule. I know Miami had some good years way back when, but that sure wasn’t one of them.
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It was a strange era for UM football. Everyone knows about the allegations of school pondering shutdown of football program amid lackluster support of school and what little we had of fans and, of course, terrible won-lost records didn't help. All of the negativity aside, the program turned out a lot of stud football players and played one of the giants on their schedule tough and I believe beat a very good Texas team in the early 1970s. UM football of that era reminded me a little of the Temple football program from the eighties and early 90s, where they won very little games but had some tough players and occasionally some guys who made it to the NFL. Back to our team of the 1970s, we had probably the best DL coach in football, and a bunch of stud DLinemen, RBs plus Dennis Harrah, who was an All-Pro for the Rams.
 
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MedleyCane said:
The offense has become even more frustrating to prepare and play against these last few years as their current OC Cronic has incorporated pass concepts to their playbook. Not exactly AirRaid but enough that one can't simply prepare against run option. Alot of bigger programs are copying some of their stuff.
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As solid as Horvath was last year, his backup Braxton Woodson is a superior athlete and has the potential to be better if he can learn to pick up the reads better. I don't think he throws as good as Horvath, but if he can come close they'll be really good again. They do have some studs to replace though
 
JG14 said:
As solid as Horvath was last year, his backup Braxton Woodson is a superior athlete and has the potential to be better if he can learn to pick up the reads better. I don't think he throws as good as Horvath, but if he can come close they'll be really good again. They do have some studs to replace though
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Yes, Braxton is a central Florida dude, I believe Altamonte Springs and I agree with your assessment.
 
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