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This according to Tony Barnhart of the SEC network. Today on the John Feinstein show, Tony Barnhart sounded off on the FSU v. Miami football matchup. He was questioned as to why he thinks Al Golden has not been able to turn this program around since he was able to turn a depleted Temple program around. Tony responded by stating the U will never be back no matter how "good" of a coach we have in Al Golden for the simple fact that other programs can now come into our backyard, with confidence, poach kids and sell them on a winning tradition and playing in a....wait for it.....full stadium. He went on to say that Sun Life Stadium has been the true death of this program b/c kids see how empty and lifeless it is and it's turning them off no matter how much of a "fan" they may be.
Thoughts?
 
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Barnhart is a tool. $EC teams sell by bags of $$$$!! The stadium issue doesn't help our cause, though!
 
Rellyrell said:
This according to Tony Barnhart of the SEC network. Today on the John Feinstein show, Tony Barnhart sounded off on the FSU v. Miami football matchup. He was questioned as to why he thinks Al Golden has not been able to turn this program around since he was able to turn a depleted Temple program around. Tony responded by stating the U will never be back no matter how "good" of a coach we have in Al Golden for the simple fact that other programs can now come into our backyard, with confidence, poach kids and sell them on a winning tradition and playing in a....wait for it.....full stadium. He went on to say that Sun Life Stadium has been the true death of this program b/c kids see how empty and lifeless it is and it's turning them off no matter how much of a "fan" they may be.
Thoughts?
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If memory serves me right we werent exactly having sellouts like at Bama or UTenn in the OB...

If you want to look at schools that are in the exact same ship as us look at TCU and baylor... both private schools yet winning has brought in dollars and everything.. it takes the right kind of coach
 
dwreck27 said:
Rellyrell said:
This according to Tony Barnhart of the SEC network. Today on the John Feinstein show, Tony Barnhart sounded off on the FSU v. Miami football matchup. He was questioned as to why he thinks Al Golden has not been able to turn this program around since he was able to turn a depleted Temple program around. Tony responded by stating the U will never be back no matter how "good" of a coach we have in Al Golden for the simple fact that other programs can now come into our backyard, with confidence, poach kids and sell them on a winning tradition and playing in a....wait for it.....full stadium. He went on to say that Sun Life Stadium has been the true death of this program b/c kids see how empty and lifeless it is and it's turning them off no matter how much of a "fan" they may be.
Thoughts?
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If memory serves me right we werent exactly having sellouts like at Bama or UTenn in the OB...

If you want to look at schools that are in the exact same ship as us look at TCU and baylor... both private schools yet winning has brought in dollars and everything.. it takes the right kind of coach
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I agree, but the OB being half empty vs. SLS being half empty looks totally different, would you not agree?
 
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You guys are in denial regarding our stadium situation. Barnhart is correct. We will have our moments but will not be able to dominate again. The stadium situation added to our tepid support in the local fanbase means we are at a recruiting disadvantage out of the box......yeah, even in SF we are at a disadvantage compared to the likes of FSU.
 
Th U will never be back??? If Al is half the motivational genius he thinks he is, he'll post a copy of the transcript from the show up in the locker room and let the players decide if the statement is true or not.
 
dwreck27 said:
Rellyrell said:
This according to Tony Barnhart of the SEC network. Today on the John Feinstein show, Tony Barnhart sounded off on the FSU v. Miami football matchup. He was questioned as to why he thinks Al Golden has not been able to turn this program around since he was able to turn a depleted Temple program around. Tony responded by stating the U will never be back no matter how "good" of a coach we have in Al Golden for the simple fact that other programs can now come into our backyard, with confidence, poach kids and sell them on a winning tradition and playing in a....wait for it.....full stadium. He went on to say that Sun Life Stadium has been the true death of this program b/c kids see how empty and lifeless it is and it's turning them off no matter how much of a "fan" they may be.
Thoughts?
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If memory serves me right we werent exactly having sellouts like at Bama or UTenn in the OB...

If you want to look at schools that are in the exact same ship as us look at TCU and baylor... both private schools yet winning has brought in dollars and everything.. it takes the right kind of coach
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Exactly. We had no problem getting recruits with 25k sitting in the stands at the ob. Joe Robbie sucks, it sucks bad. But from a recruit's perspective i don't think they see it as any worse than the ob. Both places had sparse crowds. ****, kids these days might think Sun Life is better than the ob because it's an nfl stadium. The right coach can win here, right now.
 
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DMoney and some of the others have brought it up before: Miami is a sleeping giant. The sheer amount of talent in south Florida gives us potential. Look at NFL rosters and the representation from Dade and Broward. We'll never land all the blue-chippers, but we'll always get ours and will never be short on talent.

But LULZ at any dope that feels Golden did a masterful job at Temple. Not only does "success" the MAC not necessarily translate to success in a bigger conference (see Turner Gil), but Fat Al went 0-14 against MAC teams with winning records while with Temple. He never won a big game there and still hasn't won a big game here (STFU if you think wins against 4-8 UF and the Luke Fickell-led Buckeyes are signature wins).

Hopefully we beat FSU and he shuts me up for the time being.
 
Stupid, short-sighted analysis. There are a select few schools who are always the right coach away from being back, simply due to their resources (talent base in Miami's case). **** even non-traditional powers can win at a high level with the right coach (see Oregon). It's all about the coach. Some places are no doubt easier to win at than others, but Miami is smack dab in the most talent-rich city in the country. Only LA and the Dallas area compares.
 
It's an issue but the extent of its impact is exaggerated, IMO. It doesn't explain why we have lost to teams that have less talent on their roster under the last two head coaches.
 
chicanego said:
DMoney and some of the others have brought it up before: Miami is a sleeping giant. The sheer amount of talent in south Florida gives us potential. Look at NFL rosters and the representation from Dade and Broward. We'll never land all the blue-chippers, but we'll always get ours and will never be short on talent.

But LULZ at any dope that feels Golden did a masterful job at Temple. Not only does "success" the MAC not necessarily translate to success in a bigger conference (see Turner Gil), but Fat Al went 0-14 against MAC teams with winning records while with Temple. He never won a big game there and still hasn't won a big game here (STFU if you think wins against 4-8 UF and the Luke Fickell-led Buckeyes are signature wins).

Hopefully we beat FSU and he shuts me up for the time being.
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Temple was one of the worst programs in the history of college football

They were not only sanctioned with loss of scholarships but the program was on the verge of being taken apart

Rip into Golden all you want for what he has done here but give credit to making Temple in a way relevant
 
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Bullsh!t!!! We've NEVER had full stadiums for all games. Even when we were kicking ***, left and right. These fuccin media people kill me. While I agree, that NO-Life stadium is the pits, its not the reason we keep losing kids. Better coaching, is a good start. We need to do a better job of recruiting and selling kids on what and who we are, and of course kids have to see results ON THE FIELD! Again, that starts with coaching. We get a good head coach and a competent coaching staff, and we'll be in the national discussion and fighting to get in the field of 4, in 3 years, tops.
Oh, yea. Our next "bagman" needs to be a guy that can keep his **** mouth shut also, like the $EC schools (Yea, thats how they do it in the land of dixie, F$U included.)
 
KANE said:
Bullsh!t!!! We've NEVER had full stadiums for all games. Even when we were kicking ***, left and right. These fuccin media people kill me. While I agree, that NO-Life stadium is the pits, its not the reason we keep losing kids. Better coaching, is a good start. We need to do a better job of recruiting and selling kids on what and who we are, and of course kids have to see results ON THE FIELD! Again, that starts with coaching. We get a good head coach and a competent coaching staff, and we'll be in the national discussion and fighting to get in the field of 4, in 3 years, tops.
Oh, yea. Our next "bagman" needs to be a guy that can keep his **** mouth shut also, like the $EC schools (Yea, thats how they do it in the land of dixie, F$U included.)
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This is the worst looking crowd situation since the sub 20,000 fan days at the OB back in the day. We are a laughing stock crowd wise. Crowds in the OB if above 20k at least looked passable. In this current stadium even 30k looks horrendous. Anyone who thinks this helps our situation is nuts.
 
He is right.

But not because of the stadium. We don't have an administration committed to winning football games.
 
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The stadium is getting a full overhaul starting this offseason. Smaller capacity and all. The seat thing starts after the final Dolphins home game. I believe they are gutting the thing. So anyone blaming how the stadium looks on TV as a contributing factor for our decade of ineptitude which actually began before the move can kindly STFU in 2015.
 
Ask yourself this: if the U will never be back, then why state the obvious? If the stadium is such a hindrance to recruiting, why make it know? Why would such a well known SEC groupie do us a solid and give us a heads up?

Because he is scared ****less, just like all these ***** *** backwards SEC "colleges". They can no longer tell kids Miami is getting the death penalty. Miami ***** slapped Florida when they stepped out. UM has a stud freshman QB that not only is actively recruiting players to join but shows them every week that there isn't a QB out there better to roll with for the next 2-3 years than him.

And God help them, if we somehow beat FSU. The jig will be up - A full stadium isn't a selling point when it's full of backward *** racists.
 
The guy is a tool....but he's right about the stadium. Sun Life is an abomination. An absolutely horrible place to watch a college football game.

We need to find a way out of that deathtrap. Be it via Beckham, Tropical Park, or whatever the **** else we can conjure....but there is no doubt it's going to continue to be an issue going forward.
 
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