THe "U" : Academics shuts out many local kids..period.

[TheMatador]

Stanford is 2nd in the country with 104 NCAA Division 1 titles. Losing STUDENT athletes to other schools doesn't seem to be a problem for them! Instead of blaming the higher ups at these Universities who take pride in their schools, let's blame the kids, parents, & high school coaches who could care less about these kids long term futures. Their only concern is the dollars that these kids will make when the make the league , which 99.99% will never see!!!

But not Div. 1 titles in football or basketball, which are composed heavily of teams with mostly African-American athletes. Their championships are probably in stuff like swimming, tennis, volleyball, water polo, beach volleyball, equestrian, chess, bridge, etc. (Just joking with the last three).

Also, some have suggested to me over the years that the south Florida public schools,especially Dade, are not very good. I have no direct knowledge, but I just have to listen to some of the south Florida kids speak to wonder if they have to take English as a foreign language.

Sorry if some of you don't like this comment, but it might be the truth. As much as I hate to lose him, I can't blame Reilly Gibbons. I still wonder if Joaquin Gonzales, who reportedly had the chance to go to Harvard, made the right decision by coming to UM. It was his decision to make, he had to live with it. I suspect he still would not trade his NC experience for anything.

 

[Dingaan1828]

http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/48935-UM-Academic-Requirements-amp-Recruiting-Dates

UM Academic Requirements & Recruiting Dates

NCAA Academic Requirements
Students must graduate from High School and have a grade point average (GPA) of 2.00 in a core curriculum.
You must also achieve a minimum score on your ACT and SAT this is between 37 and 86 on the ACT and between 820 and 1010 on the SAT.
Remember that the higher your GPA, the lower ACT or SAT score is needed; this works both ways of course, the lower your GPA then the higher ACT or SAT score must be.

UM Academic Requirements
A 2.9 core and a 15 (60) means you qualified for the NCAA.
You need 17 on the act to get into Miami; you must have a minimum of a 2.5 and a 17/820 to gain entrance into the school.
If your core is a little lower and the score a little higher, you can qualify for the NCAA but not UM.
UM doesn't use the sliding scale!

Where does this come from? Something official put out by the university? I don't believe it. Schools often have some flexibility because some don't test well, have a disability like dyslexia which makes it difficult to do well on an ACT or SAT, etc.

I don't know, as I am not the original poster in that thread. But, here is a link to something interesting and related. It's from 2006, but I don't imagine anything has changed. It's in two parta, and worth a read.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

If we got Cook, Michel, Rudolph, Lane, Gibbons, Valentine, Harris, JC Jackson, and Wilson -- are we even having this conversation? Plenty of talent leaving us that CAN qualify here.

But you'll never persuade every kid to stay in south Florida. Believe it or not, some kids just want to get away.

More kids from South Florida are leaving than are staying. What other region does this happen in? The point is that academics are not keeping the local kids out...all of those mentioned would qualify.

 

[thebutcher]

You're a clown. If all you love is canes football and all you have to look forward to is Saturdays in the fall, why did you pay for a degree? Why not just use that money to buy tix to every game and then donate the rest to the football team? Seems like a waste of money if it isn't spent on the only thing you care about.

I love canes football, but love the opportunities my degree from Miami has given me more. I can definitely understand this point of view if you are local or just a fan who follows the canes like other people follow nfl teams because they don't have a stake in the academic side of the university, but to hear it from an alumni is disappointing. I'll tell you what- I enjoy making good money for a 23 year old, being able to make all my payments on time, and to live comfortably significantly more than I think I would enjoy a championship. Hopefully we'll find out soon and when that happen I'll get back to you

 

[Sandman211]

I don't understand what's wrong with asking a fcking student athlete to...be a student. do what you have to do to make it through college so you can get paid on Sundays. If that truly is your dream, you will make it happen. All this, blaming academics and **** is stupid if you ask me. Why even make athletes take classes. Just let them enroll as football players and not have to take any classes what so ever.

BTW, Stanford is quite often a strong, near powerhouse, in multiple sports. This argument is stupid.

You can't compete with the $EC. They will let anyone in and they will also pay them. They really don't give a **** about academics. What was the last championship Stanford sniffed?

Stanford has had at least ONE NCAA championship every single year since 1976-77 year. Multiple national championships in most of those years. Now it may not be in football, but you didn't ask that. Show me an $EC school that has done what Stanford has done.

http://champions.stanford.edu/history/stanfords-national-championships/

 

[Sandman211]

http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/48935-UM-Academic-Requirements-amp-Recruiting-Dates

UM Academic Requirements & Recruiting Dates

NCAA Academic Requirements
Students must graduate from High School and have a grade point average (GPA) of 2.00 in a core curriculum.
You must also achieve a minimum score on your ACT and SAT this is between 37 and 86 on the ACT and between 820 and 1010 on the SAT.
Remember that the higher your GPA, the lower ACT or SAT score is needed; this works both ways of course, the lower your GPA then the higher ACT or SAT score must be.

UM Academic Requirements
A 2.9 core and a 15 (60) means you qualified for the NCAA.
You need 17 on the act to get into Miami; you must have a minimum of a 2.5 and a 17/820 to gain entrance into the school.
If your core is a little lower and the score a little higher, you can qualify for the NCAA but not UM.
UM doesn't use the sliding scale!

Are you talking a combined ACT score? I don't know all the workings that go into the ACT but I do know they take a composite of your 4 tests and score it between 1 and 36.

http://www.actstudent.org/faq/highscore.html

 

[Ethnicsands]

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Miami academics are too good to admit many local kids who could play here, who go elsewhere and star.

Miami academics are not good enough to hang onto a local kid like Gibbons, who wants to go to Stanford -- a truly top academic institution.

Kinda sounds like our target market ain't wide or deep enough.

Yeah because we lose so many recruits to Stanford.

Way to miss the point.

 

[Houtxcane]

An alum who calls Tad Foote "Thad" Foote. Whoops.

Noticed that and a few other things. But he did say he graduated in 1987, towards the end of the sun tan U era.

 

[arizonacane]

If Dade County high schools weren't schit, and the kids prepared themselves for college in their junior year (SAT) and took the ACT their senior year, went to class and studied then they could easily get into UM. It's all on the kids, not the school. When they are recruited and offered they are told what the requirements for admission are at UM. No secret!

 

[NateDogg]

I'll keep saying it. And I'll keep getting ignored. The NCAA minimum for GPA on SAs is going up from 2.0 to 2.3 in 2015 and will also require higher minimum test scores to get into school. This is a huge benefit for us. I would guess a pretty good percentage of kids won't get admitted to any school if those rules were in force today. They also raised minimum GPA to 2.5 for JUCO kids. It will give us one less excuse to lose recruits based on academics, which can be replaced by another excuse (handlers, money, defensive schemes, need to get away, need to feed the fam, etc.)

humor me...u trolling?