The Two Most Dangerous Lines of BOT Thinking Currently Being Pushed...

[CanesNation26]

First: "We won't fire Diaz unless we can clearly reel in an upgrade like Mario or Kiffin."

Second: "We have a lot of young talent so we should keep Diaz to ensure the young talent stays in the program."

Here's what will actually happen if we retain Diaz:
(1) Lashlee will leave

On the coaching front:
(2) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent replacement for Lashlee , since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(3) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent DC, since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(4) We will effectively waste TVD's talent and our young offensive talent, since we'll be unable to hire a competent OC. TVD be gone to the NFL after next year. Even if he stays one more year after next, he'll likely have to learn a brand new offense. WASTED.

On the recruiting/talent front
(5) He'll be unable to close out this recruiting class or bring in quality transfers... since recruits know he's a lame-duke coach.
(6) After Diaz is fired next year, the new hire will have a limited amount of time to put together a recruiting class and build relationships. The transition class next year will further reduce our current talent level.
(7) After two subpar recruiting classes in a row, the new hire will inherit a Miami program with significantly less talent. It'll be much more of a rebuild and less of a win-now situation.

Hiring a new coach next year:
(8) It'll be harder to land a big fish next year, since we'll have a less appealing roster.

Here's what will likely happen if we hire a new coach, even if it's a less sought after commodity like a P5 OC or DC

On the recruiting front:
(1) The new hire will reinvigorate our program with much-needed energy. The new hire can sell hope and the future. The new hire can also sell transfers on a ready-to-win now roster.

On the coaching front:
(2) the new hire is not a lame duck and has the capability to hire competent coordinators that can take this team to the next level.

In short, failing to fire Diaz will set us back years. Diaz will surely fail next year because he'll be unable to attract quality talent to plug holes. And he'll be unable to attract a quality OC or DC. A new HC, on the other hand, can help maintain our talent level, hire the appropriate coordinators, and give us a fighting shot to win the Coastal next year. FIRE DIAZ NOW!

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

First: "We won't fire Diaz unless we can clearly reel in an upgrade like Mario or Kiffin."

Second: "We have a lot of young talent so we should keep Diaz to ensure the young talent stays in the program."

Here's what will actually happen if we retain Diaz:
(1) Lashlee will leave

On the coaching front:
(2) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent replacement for Lashlee , since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(3) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent DC, since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(4) We will effectively waste TVD's talent, since we'll be unable to hire a competent OC. He'll be gone to the NFL after next year. Even if he stays one more year after next, he'll likely have to learn a brand new offense. WASTED.

On the recruiting/talent front
(5) He'll be unable to close out this recruiting class or bring in quality transfers... since recruits know he's a lame-duke coach.
(6) After Diaz is fired next year, the new hire will have a limited amount of time to put together a recruiting class and build relationships. The transition class next year will further reduce our current talent level.
(7) After two subpar recruiting classes in a row, the new hire will inherit a Miami program with significantly less talent. It'll be much more of a rebuild and less of a win-now situation.

Hiring a new coach next year:
(8) It'll be harder to land a big fish next year, since we'll have a less appealing roster.

Here's what will likely happen if we hire a new coach, even if it's a less sought after commodity like a P5 OC or DC

On the recruiting front:
(1) The new hire will reinvigorate our program with much-needed energy. The new hire can sell hope and the future. The new hire can also sell transfers on a ready-to-win now roster.

On the coaching front:
(2) the new hire is not a lame duck and has the capability to hire competent coordinators that can take this team to the next level.

In short, failing to fire Diaz will set us back years. Diaz will surely fail next year because he'll be unable to attract quality talent to plug holes. And he'll be unable to attract a quality OC or DC. A new HC, on the other hand, can help maintain our talent level, hire the appropriate coordinators, and give us a fighting shot to win the Coastal next year. FIRE DIAZ NOW!

Stop, that’s too many facts for Epcuck, Manuelita de Pinga Papa, and the rest of his cronies. He won five of his last six games bro, he’s turning the ship.

God I hope Manny is fired this week for f^cks sake. Someone might get physically hurt if not, and I will NEVER condone violence as a form of displeasure, but the verbal abuse and personal attacks will be 100% merited and encouraged if nothing changes.

 

[Canes Legacy]

Just to add, keeping the young talent in the program is meaningless if Diaz is still here since our player development is essentially non-existent.

 

[CanesNation26]

Just to add, keeping the young talent in the program is meaningless if Diaz is still here since our player development is essentially non-existent.

Yep. He'll squander our talent instead of giving it over to someone else who might make use of it. The Bot's argument for keeping Manny ironically favors firing him, they might just be too dumb to see it.

 

[Moecane]

First: "We won't fire Diaz unless we can clearly reel in an upgrade like Mario or Kiffin."

Second: "We have a lot of young talent so we should keep Diaz to ensure the young talent stays in the program."

Here's what will actually happen if we retain Diaz:
(1) Lashlee will leave

On the coaching front:
(2) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent replacement for Lashlee , since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(3) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent DC, since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(4) We will effectively waste TVD's talent, since we'll be unable to hire a competent OC. He'll be gone to the NFL after next year. Even if he stays one more year after next, he'll likely have to learn a brand new offense. WASTED.

On the recruiting/talent front
(5) He'll be unable to close out this recruiting class or bring in quality transfers... since recruits know he's a lame-duke coach.
(6) After Diaz is fired next year, the new hire will have a limited amount of time to put together a recruiting class and build relationships. The transition class next year will further reduce our current talent level.
(7) After two subpar recruiting classes in a row, the new hire will inherit a Miami program with significantly less talent. It'll be much more of a rebuild and less of a win-now situation.

Hiring a new coach next year:
(8) It'll be harder to land a big fish next year, since we'll have a less appealing roster.

Here's what will likely happen if we hire a new coach, even if it's a less sought after commodity like a P5 OC or DC

On the recruiting front:
(1) The new hire will reinvigorate our program with much-needed energy. The new hire can sell hope and the future. The new hire can also sell transfers on a ready-to-win now roster.

On the coaching front:
(2) the new hire is not a lame duck and has the capability to hire competent coordinators that can take this team to the next level.

In short, failing to fire Diaz will set us back years. Diaz will surely fail next year because he'll be unable to attract quality talent to plug holes. And he'll be unable to attract a quality OC or DC. A new HC, on the other hand, can help maintain our talent level, hire the appropriate coordinators, and give us a fighting shot to win the Coastal next year. FIRE DIAZ NOW!

Strong argument.
This needs to be sent to the BoT.

For real!

 

[CanesNation26]

And there goes #1. If the BOT has any logic, this should be ballgame for Diaz.

 

[dookie blaylock]

First: "We won't fire Diaz unless we can clearly reel in an upgrade like Mario or Kiffin."

Second: "We have a lot of young talent so we should keep Diaz to ensure the young talent stays in the program."

Here's what will actually happen if we retain Diaz:
(1) Lashlee will leave

On the coaching front:
(2) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent replacement for Lashlee , since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(3) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent DC, since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(4) We will effectively waste TVD's talent and our young offensive talent, since we'll be unable to hire a competent OC. TVD be gone to the NFL after next year. Even if he stays one more year after next, he'll likely have to learn a brand new offense. WASTED.

On the recruiting/talent front
(5) He'll be unable to close out this recruiting class or bring in quality transfers... since recruits know he's a lame-duke coach.
(6) After Diaz is fired next year, the new hire will have a limited amount of time to put together a recruiting class and build relationships. The transition class next year will further reduce our current talent level.
(7) After two subpar recruiting classes in a row, the new hire will inherit a Miami program with significantly less talent. It'll be much more of a rebuild and less of a win-now situation.

Hiring a new coach next year:
(8) It'll be harder to land a big fish next year, since we'll have a less appealing roster.

Here's what will likely happen if we hire a new coach, even if it's a less sought after commodity like a P5 OC or DC

On the recruiting front:
(1) The new hire will reinvigorate our program with much-needed energy. The new hire can sell hope and the future. The new hire can also sell transfers on a ready-to-win now roster.

On the coaching front:
(2) the new hire is not a lame duck and has the capability to hire competent coordinators that can take this team to the next level.

In short, failing to fire Diaz will set us back years. Diaz will surely fail next year because he'll be unable to attract quality talent to plug holes. And he'll be unable to attract a quality OC or DC. A new HC, on the other hand, can help maintain our talent level, hire the appropriate coordinators, and give us a fighting shot to win the Coastal next year. FIRE DIAZ NOW!

lashlee was already gone when the smu job came open. try to keep up.

 

[CanesNation26]

lashlee was already gone when the smu job came open. try to keep up.

Yes, I was aware, which is why I said "he will leave" lol

 

[canesarchitect]

I'm out if it's going to be "even if it's a less sought after commodity like a P5 OC or DC".

 

[CanesNation26]

I'm out if it's going to be "even if it's a less sought after commodity like a P5 OC or DC".

You rather Diaz, than say, Jeff Lebby or Brent Venables? Why?

 

[9oh4Cane]

Too much logic

 

[PBJFanatic]

First: "We won't fire Diaz unless we can clearly reel in an upgrade like Mario or Kiffin."

Second: "We have a lot of young talent so we should keep Diaz to ensure the young talent stays in the program."

Here's what will actually happen if we retain Diaz:
(1) Lashlee will leave

On the coaching front:
(2) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent replacement for Lashlee , since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(3) Diaz will be unable to hire a competent DC, since everyone knows he's a lame duck coach.
(4) We will effectively waste TVD's talent and our young offensive talent, since we'll be unable to hire a competent OC. TVD be gone to the NFL after next year. Even if he stays one more year after next, he'll likely have to learn a brand new offense. WASTED.

On the recruiting/talent front
(5) He'll be unable to close out this recruiting class or bring in quality transfers... since recruits know he's a lame-duke coach.
(6) After Diaz is fired next year, the new hire will have a limited amount of time to put together a recruiting class and build relationships. The transition class next year will further reduce our current talent level.
(7) After two subpar recruiting classes in a row, the new hire will inherit a Miami program with significantly less talent. It'll be much more of a rebuild and less of a win-now situation.

Hiring a new coach next year:
(8) It'll be harder to land a big fish next year, since we'll have a less appealing roster.

Here's what will likely happen if we hire a new coach, even if it's a less sought after commodity like a P5 OC or DC

On the recruiting front:
(1) The new hire will reinvigorate our program with much-needed energy. The new hire can sell hope and the future. The new hire can also sell transfers on a ready-to-win now roster.

On the coaching front:
(2) the new hire is not a lame duck and has the capability to hire competent coordinators that can take this team to the next level.

In short, failing to fire Diaz will set us back years. Diaz will surely fail next year because he'll be unable to attract quality talent to plug holes. And he'll be unable to attract a quality OC or DC. A new HC, on the other hand, can help maintain our talent level, hire the appropriate coordinators, and give us a fighting shot to win the Coastal next year. FIRE DIAZ NOW!

 

[Memnon]

Very well put together OP!

This is exactly what I kept trying to explain in the hypothetical “what if we keep Manny another year thread”...

The absolute worst thing you can do is give a Lame Duck coach an additional season, all you’re doing is backlogging recruiting & prolonging the inevitable.

Here’s what happens if you keep Manny another year:

- We go 6-6 or possibly even worse because we’re not bringing in another good OC
- Whoever gets hired as his DC will just be another Manny puppet because he sincerely believes his Defense works.

- The 2023 class will be a complete fail because no top tier recruits are signing on with a Lame Duck coach & that’s compounded by the disaster that already is the 22 class

- Mario either signs a 10 year $90million dollar extension at Oregon or gets hired at LSU
- Lane Kiffin signs a long term extension with Ole Miss or gets hired at another high profile program

- Miami is SOL in being able to land a good coach & in 2023 will be at the behest of whatever former Cane that’s available to come back

If we don’t get rid of him now, firing him next year we’ll be way worse off as a program if you really think it about, because none of Mario, Lane, Stoops or any other major Superstar would be available for us to sign & we already know that ain’t no big name coach coming down here anyway, so sticking with Manny for 2022 is the equivalent of sticking with Al Folden after the 2014 season.

 

[dookie blaylock]

Yes, I was aware, which is why I said "he will leave" lol

you prefaced it with "if we retain diaz" like diaz staying would cause lashlee to leave.

 

[CanesNation26]

you prefaced it with "if we retain diaz" like diaz staying would cause lashlee to leave.

Ahh, well I can see why you were confused.

 

[canesarchitect]

You rather Diaz, than say, Jeff Lebby or Brent Venables? Why?

No more on the job training.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

I'm absolutely done with this program if they hire someone like Nunez at AD and keep Manny. Not even kidding. In life all good things come to an end and there comes a time to move on.

 

[L A M P]

If the BOT has any logic, this should be ballgame for Diaz.

Oh we have logic. We'll wait a bit & then go pay 4 million buyout for Lashlee as HC.

 

[PIPO]

I'm absolutely done with this program if they hire someone like Nunez at AD and keep Manny. Not even kidding. In life all good things come to an end and there comes a time to move on.

Yeah, if Mario comes, we will have to live with the Nunez type.

But no way in **** if it's Nunez & Manny.

 

[hurricaneman]

Lashlee leaving means Manny is gone. They're not going to give him the time to break in two coordinators. The only argument Manny could have made to stay is momentum, but with Lashlee leaving that is out the door.