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The state of Miami Hurricane football: HTF did we get here

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Despite all the success Miami didn't put money back into the program. Facilities were considered some of the worse for a top program even in the early 2000s when we were winning. They didn't take care of the OB and let it deteriorate to a point that they had to put ole girl to sleep. Also, never pushed for an on campus stadium in the 90s when the opportunity was there. Poor hires (mostly money related) after Butch left.

Now Miami is playing catch up. 4 mil for Richt still barely even top 25 highest paid coaches. Late upgrading facilities. One of the last major programs to get an IPF. Always late to the party.
 
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It’s been natural selection at its rawest.

We didn’t evolve, change or adapt in the way we hired our coaches, manage our business, upgrade our facilities, cultivate our brand and protect our territory.

We were marginalized by hungry, more powerful, dedicated and financially superior programs.

The end.
 
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!) TV. Nebraska is the poster boy for school that was hit the hardest when more and more team began to be televised instead of just the good, consistent programs. Being on TV was a big thing back then for programs who were winning but when your suddenly sharing the spot light with 7-5 teams the "you'll be on TV" line is no longer a viable selling point and that's.

2) TV Money. TV money has made some schools RICH. Texas A&M, for example, is all of a sudden one of the richest school out there because of the type of money they get from the SEC's TV/Network deals.

3) Internet. Schools like Miami use to benefit from regionally recruiting before the internet era. We got to build relationship way before other schools even knew the name of some kids. Now, every school in the country knows who is a highly ranked kid from south Florida then you add in the reputation SFL has for producing fast studs then it just compounds on our problems when we're not playing as well as other school who are.

4) The growth of the recruiting business. With the internet making everyone easier to track then of course company to start taking advantage of that. The internet helped grow the business of recruiting. Now, recruiting companies are able to host event, practices, and even games to scout players for a more accurate star rating. Gone are the days you find a Ray Lewis at the last second or a untouched 2 star Ed Reed, Jo Vilma. Why? Because those players in today's day would be able to go to SO MANY camps to get their names out there and even increase their star rating to put schools on notice.

Now a days all we have to sell is our location and you want to know something? We're selling Miami to a bunch of kids who've grown up in Miami. Do you honestly think that's enough anymore? Short Answer: No. We better be good to have a chance.
 
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- Shalala
- Being cheap
- Not caring about winning
- Incredibly poor coaching hires, with rare exceptions such as Manny
- Lazy recruiting
- Nevin Shapiro
 
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It started to become an arms race. Salaries and facility costs went through the roof. Miami wasn't willing to step up and keep pace. We are just now starting to spend some money and its still a joke compared to SEC programs.
 
MotoSniper said:
You really can't figure it out??? CORCHES MAN, CORCHES...and like Davenport said in the U documentary, we got away from the formula player-wise that made us great. Guys with underdog mentalities that are committed and tough. We are Charmin soft as a team overall. We let in too many of the front runners with the wrong mentality...lost the hunger and our corches didn't make the appropriate corrections bc they are corches.
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This is a reoccurring theme among south florida high school kids today. Everybody is constantly transferring because kids want to play on the winning team. They're not interested in making their actual school's team good, they want to go where the team is an already established powerhouse. It's like there's a whole bunch of Kevin Durants out there just trying to jump on the bandwagon. It's why Alabama gets to pick and chose which kids they want to poach down here. No interest in building your own legacy, just riding someone elses' coattails to easy victory.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Everyone recruits the area now. Recruiting is a national game. It was not in the 80s and 90s. The internet changed a lot.

There's a lot of factors, but let me know if you think Miami would've been a better program over the past decade had they gotten Dalvin Cook, Teddy Bridgewater, Amari Cooper, Patrick Peterson, Sony Michel, Brian Burns, Pat Surtain, Chris Henderson, Lamarcus Joyner, Sammy Watkins, Ryan Shazier, Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, Alex Collins, Devin Bush, Ben Victor, Trayvon Mullin, Calvin Ridley....

I could go on for an hour. Of course, Miami wouldn't have gotten ALL those kids even 20 years ago. But they'd have gotten a good percentage. Think Al Golden would've been a little more successful here had he signed Dalvin Cook instead of Joe Yearby? Slightly.

CFB has blossomed into a multi-billion dollar business. Everyone has their hand out now. So sure, coaching plays a role. No doubt. The school's lack of interest in the program for about 15 years plays a role, no doubt. But ultimately, it's about the Jimmys and the Joes. Just can't expect to be a perennial power when you lose that much talent, plus about 50 more kids who were studs in college and/or are balling in the NFL now just from your backyard.
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I agree with some of things you're saying, but if not mistaken, So. Florida has always been heavily recruited. In fact, it was Howard who said his biggest challenge was convincing players to stay home vs. going out of state like they had been doing.

Imo, nothing has changed. The only difference is the internet has made things more public.

There is no coincidence that our recruiting has nose dived as our program's ability to win has tanked. So. Fla recruits left the coop back in the day b/c Miami sucked, and they are leaving the coop now b/c we suck as a team.

Diamonds in the rough that are overlooked are still diamonds in the rough that are overlooked. We know that b/c we have guys like Antonio Brown, Khalil Macks, JJ Watts, etc that went unknown even w/ the internet age. The difference is, we haven't had coaches w/ that eye for talent in a minute. Literally the last coach that had that eye for talent was Butch. Larry never developed that eye even though he was under Butch. He relied upon the rep of the U to get guys, and that he did; but a lot of those guys were Primadonnas, and we didn't have the staff to hold them accountable.

There's no doubt in my mind that if Miami was the Miami we came to know and love, most of those guys you mentioned would've been in Orange and Green, not all, but most. Illegal recruiting has always been around, bags have always been dropped. ****, there were movies depicting this back in the 90's, so this was never a secret. The main reasons a top flight kid will go to a school is b/c of coaching, the prestige of the school, the ability to always contend for championships, and the ability to help them become an uber millionaire at the next level. Miami handles business on the field, pump out first round picks again, and we don't see kids leave frequently, period.
 
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holycane said:
This university and its administration. It isn’t just Shalala. It’s everyone associated with the place. It’s just so poorly run.
It will never change.
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Absolutely true, but there could not have been a worse person to become President wielding so much influence over the BOT as Shalala at the time she did. Continuing the successful transition from probation to a return to the top was never more important than the decisions post-2000....and its pretty difficult to point to many that I can recall on the athletic side of things.
 
DTP said:
This is a reoccurring theme among south florida high school kids today. Everybody is constantly transferring because kids want to play on the winning team. They're not interested in making their actual school's team good, they want to go where the team is an already established powerhouse. It's like there's a whole bunch of Kevin Durants out there just trying to jump on the bandwagon. It's why Alabama gets to pick and chose which kids they want to poach down here. No interest in building your own legacy, just riding someone elses' coattails to easy victory.
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This guy gets it. The moment LBJ said "I'm taking my talents to", it started a phenomenon. Ppl like to be associated w/ winners, period. There is no loyalty to the home turf or wanting to be the man. It's about joining forces and dominating.
 
Rellyrell said:
This guy gets it. The moment LBJ said "I'm taking my talents to", it started a phenomenon. Ppl like to be associated w/ winners, period. There is no loyalty to the home turf or wanting to be the man. It's about joining forces and dominating.
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We were losing recruits well before Lebron lol Do you guys have any memory beyind the last 10 years?
 
Pretty much everything has been worst case scenario since we lost to Pitt last year (except for the FSU win which isn't all that impressive).
 
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