The only reason CoRch Diaz will give Jarren Williams back the starting Job

[sitzee]

NKosi played a great game against UVa... clearly better than what we would’ve gotten from Jarren.

 

[Memnon]

Don't you have to let the game happen before you answer that question?

If we beat Pitt on the road, and the final score is 48-45 and whoever the QB is throws for 375 yards on 65% completions and the offense doesn't turn the ball over, then **** yes the offense (and an extension of that that--the QB) deserves credit for the win.

If we win 10-7 and the QB throws 5 picks and the defense holds Pitt to 175 total yards with 8 sacks, then yes, the defense deserves credit for the win.

Apparently not lol...

 

[brock]

Last I checked, our offense stuggled against Florida, CMU and the first quarter of UVA.



Reminder: UVA had the 7th best past rush in the country ---- we had the WORST pass protection in the country. Yet, Perry made enough plays in the 4th to win the game. Additionally, UVA might be the best coached team we play this season.... and still, Perry moved the ball when we absolutely needed it.

Having said that, our Redzone Defense won the game.

Miami had more points, more first downs, passing yards, rushing yards agaisnt a better and more talented defense in a hostile environment, plus they didn’t go through a stretch with 6 drives with 23 plays with only 33 yards to show for it. As you noted we did move the ball when we needed to at end vs uva which is good. It’s just Kind of incomparable to me though since the defensive performance were so drastically different. In regards to the cmu game that was a disaster for sure

 

[Memnon]

Who even said that? I’ve said it in the past this goes beyond Jarren on Perry. We can win with either of them but it’s pretty asinine to think the reason we lost to either of unc/uf OR va tech (Jarren get blame for that game early one and defense with 6 redzone trips for 6 tds) was anything other than the defense considering how the defense played in those games is my overarching point. Another point is the people keep throwing this saying around that the offense moves better with Perry vs uva, no it didn’t imo as we were largely inefficient that game

Jarren doesn't get ANY blame for UF???

He wasn't holding onto the ball for too long & missed several wide open WR's simply because he wouldn't throw the ball??? Even Enos said at least 5 of those sacks were on Jarren...

 

[CaneDogX]

Several drives stalled/stopped due to drops and critical sacks as well. Neither Perry's fault. Additionally, most of the game was started inside our 20 yard line which greatly limits what we're gonna call. In fact, several drives inside the 10.

 

[brock]

Jarren doesn't get ANY blame for UF???

He wasn't holding onto the ball for too long & missed several wide open WR's simply because he wouldn't throw the ball??? Even Enos said at least 5 of those sacks were on Jarren...

Again Who said that? Sure he gets some blame but is he the main REASON we lost that game ?No. Im pretty sure I posted Clips and screenshots from the skycam video after that game of guys he missed and said he held the ball too long at times but at the end of the day that was his first game against a legit top 10 team who happens to be better than most Miami fans predicted they would be

 

[tuckg305]

If our defense doesn’t play lights out in the red zone Kosi would have lost that game. Kosi’s one advantage is a downfield and he overthrew every pass downfield. Yeah he ran in a touchdown at the end but Jarren would have hit a wide open Deejay for the same touchdown.

QB’s are judged by their arm and Jarren was leading the ACC in passing efficiency. Jarrens also not Kaaya in the pocket he runs faster than N’kosi. He just has to learn when to run

You dont actually believe this nonsense...

 

[404CANES]

I actually Agree with most of this, but I’m still going to point out the hypocrisy(not from you necessarily) regardless because it’s clear imo. And I agree Enos need to put both of these guys in a better position to make plays and we are not constantly doing that enough period

Yeah they get credit for that game. If we had that type of performance that we had vs uva there’s no way we lose to uf or unc. Don’t even see how that’s up for debate tbh. We were only good offensively for the first drive and the last 2 but in between that we were down right putrid,23 plays 35 yards(4 3 and outs drives ) 2 first downs in those 23 plays and that shouldn’t be lauded imo

So was it playcalling or qb play that resulted in bad numbers

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Did you factor in the drops or you just wanted to sweep that under the rug, sneak a comment in about comp % and no one will recall this fact.

So the WR’s drop the ball for N’kosi but not Jarren? Sounds like a ball placement issue

 

[404CANES]

Yes he will! They will get the credit if they deserve it! i think this is the first game that everyone did their job......i think Kosi played good enough to win obviously....i also think Willaims has played good enough to win all but the VT game....i also think this is the best the defense has looked all season , it was refreshing. Now if the defense didnt show up we loose to UVA

The defense played well against the gaturds but we still lost. Ufag had 2 big plays...miss tackles on Toney and long pass to Hamilton. Outside of that the defense played stout. Redzone issues hurt us bad.

 

[KrazyCane]

Which is why Miami scored more vs UNC and UF than they did vs UVA and why N’kosi’s completion percentage was lower than Jarrens has been all year

Which is why N’Kosi has 7 TDs in 2 games against VaTech and UVa and Jarren Williams has 7 TDs in 5 games including games against Bethune and Central Michigan

Jarren Williams has a 39.3 QBR rating... you could get that same kind of production from Carson Proctor.

 

[KrazyCane]

Jarren doesn't get ANY blame for UF???

He wasn't holding onto the ball for too long & missed several wide open WR's simply because he wouldn't throw the ball??? Even Enos said at least 5 of those sacks were on Jarren...

Lol Jarren the only QB in cfb that would get sacked 5 times on purpose

 

[404CANES]

Defense absolutely deserves all the credit for that win. And in actuality, Miami won that game that they deserved to lose, and they lost 2 games that they probably deserved to win (VT & UNC). Strange season. But yes, Miami scored 17 points at home and gained less than 270 yards against a team whose coach said 2 years ago that had 25 D1 players on it. The offense was awful. If not for the defense bowing up in the redzone, Miami should have lost. I haven't seen Connelly's advanced box score, but I'd bet my life UVAs post-game win expectancy was close to 70%.

The cavs drove multiple times into our redzone but the defense deserves "all the credit"

 

[mackjones]

Honestly, just think he's ******* clueless. He probably thinks it's the right decision.

I beg to differ. I seriously believe Manny has an axe to grind with the free spirit Perry.

 

[canes23]

Jarren doesn't get ANY blame for UF???

He wasn't holding onto the ball for too long & missed several wide open WR's simply because he wouldn't throw the ball??? Even Enos said at least 5 of those sacks were on Jarren...

This is what I love about the game of football....it’s the ultimate team game. We, as fans, can get into the nuance of this guy vs that guy or offense vs defense. But, at the end of the day, when the team loses, it’s several team issues/missed opportunities throughout the game that result in a loss (including coaches/play calling).

an example in the Virginia game was a drive late in third quarter we had a third and short (1-2 yards) and our offensive coord calls an option to the short side/weak side which (as expected) resulted in a 2 yard loss. Had he just run an off tackle play, likely keep the drive alive and who knows how that drive ends. Same with our third and goal TE sweep. Similarly (this time involving a player) when Pope (I think) dropped a perfect post route that would’ve been a big play. Or Perry overthrowing a wide open KJ (I think). And that’s just on the offense. We could do the same on the defensive side of the ball.
These little plays add up to the scenario where you need a great defensive goal line stand or a great 4 min TD drive to get a win. And against UVA, we needed both.

love the game! Love the Canes!!! Let’s get GT!!!!

 

[MainLineCane]

how y’all giving Perry all of this credit for the uva game when the defense finally showed up for the first time the whole season (5 drives inside the 25 yet only allowed 9 points) but give Jarren all the blame for the first 2 losses of the season when the defense was handed a lead in the 4th and immediately gave up a td right after and just frankly didn’t look like a manny Diaz coached defense whatsoever ?

Jarren deserves blame for the va tech game early on but giving up 6 redzone trips for 6 tds is fcs level sh*t is it not? Be consistent now the offense is no better than what it was with Jarren. People wrongly say dc’s got the blue print on Jarren, but then what did bronco mendehall admit after the first drive coming out of halftime? That’s more of an enos issue and what he’s calling considering that’s 2 dcs in a row saying something with different qbs. Not to mention we couldn’t complete a single pass over the middle of the field or more than 1 that traveled 10 yards or beyond. In addition to that 9 sacks the last 2 games for Perry which is the same 4.5 rate Williams has had all season. With that being said he’s a little more mobile in the pocket but it’s not a significant difference. The offense problems is not fixed with Perry in there at all. News flash neither one of those guys are the problem. Oline and situational playcalling (3rd and short or redzone) are STILL Miami’s biggest offensive problem period

Sorry Brock it always been that way, whoever is under center when you a win a game, gets credit for the win

Whether it was due to how the team responded to him; Acts of God; Prayers; Leprechauns; Satan worship; Voodoo; Magic; Referees; Eleven Blind Squirrels simultaneously finding nuts; Steroids; The other team suddenly contracting Hemorrhoids and severe Diarrhea; When the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars; Manny and Enos' headsets not working; OR ANYTHING ELSE.....they still get the credit.

Sure the team still has problems,...... but this time they won despite those still existing problems

I want someone out there who can win and move the ball despite the problems we still have.

As I said before , this isn't about YOUR guy playing.......it's about the team winning....however that happens

And I'm for whoever does that

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Which is why N’Kosi has 7 TDs in 2 games against VaTech and UVa and Jarren Williams has 7 TDs in 5 games including games against Bethune and Central Michigan

Miami’s offense scored more with Jarren. Who cares is touchdowns were passing? He led more drives that finished in touchdowns. If you pass to the two yard line and the running back finishes you still led through drive.

Why am I arguing with you? Your boy didn’t win the competition and won’t be on the field when Jarren gets healthy. N’kosi is an excellent back up and I’m glad he’s on the team.

 

[brock]

Sorry Brock it always been that way, whoever is under center when you a win a game, gets credit for the win

Whether it was due to how the team responded to him; Acts of God; Prayers; Leprechauns; Satan worship; Voodoo; Magic; Referees; Eleven Blind Squirrels simultaneously finding nuts; Steroids; The other team suddenly contracting Hemorrhoids and severe Diarrhea; When the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars; Manny and Enos' headsets not working; OR ANYTHING ELSE.....they still get the credit.

Sure the team still has problems,...... but this time they won despite those still existing problems

I want someone out there who can win and move the ball despite the problems we still have.

As I said before , this isn't about YOUR guy playing.......it's about the team winning.

And I'm for whoever does that

I’m team Miami before I’m ever a fan of either qbs first of all but like I said, if we had the defensive performance we had vs uva in the first 2 games, we win those EASILY. You just see the end result and act like that’s the end all be all especially when the defensive performances from game 6 was so drastically different from games 1 and 2 as well as 5 which just can’t be the case at this point

 

[KevinCaneFace]

The cavs drove multiple times into our redzone but the defense deserves "all the credit"

Didn’t know multiple drives into the redzone wins games. Defense gave up 9 points. That’s winning football

 

[Hurracanes]

Op


He’s the lead booger eater , with his condition I’m sure he wears a helmet 24 hours a day. I think we should start sticking booger stickers on it for his elite porsts. Like Ohio state does with buckeye stickers.

Not surprising the moron screaming for Perry over Williams is the same guy who was screaming for Rosier over Kaaya.