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JHallCanes said:
There was a brief moment in the OSU game where I thought it might finally catch up to us

We ask the defense to do too much and have been all year. Our offense is schematically much improved to me so I think we are closer but I agree, it’s just going to get tighter the next two games
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There were four crucial instances of the OSU game:

1) After the fumble, we got a 3 and out and then the offense went down for 7. We put the mistake totally behind us;

2) The pick 6. Duh.

3) Burning clock and getting 3 after they got on the scoreboard. This was the drive of the game for me. When we absolutely had to have something, we did.

4) Running the clock down and scoring at the end to ice it. Duh.
 
mossmadness said:
Our post-game win expectancy is pretty low following both games.

Largely because our offense isn’t giving us much in terms of down to down success vs explosion, and we are asking our defense to just carry it.

We aren’t going to 30 to 40% post-game win expectancy our way to a national title. That’s almost impossible.

At some point the offense has to be good against a good defense.
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Earlier in the season if we had one pre snap penalty the drive was basically dead

We’ve cleaned that up but the margin for error is still entirely too thin

Not sure at this point there’s much we can do about it but I’d like to see us take the same approach against Ole Miss as OSU. Just focus on 4 yards on first down. If a big play happens it happens but don’t try and outscore Ole Miss offense just stick to our game against a weaker defense than OSU

It’s actually a really fun playoff matchup
 
Brains said:
There were four crucial instances of the OSU game:

1) After the fumble, we got a 3 and out and then the offense went down for 7. We put the mistake totally behind us;

2) The pick 6. Duh.

3) Burning clock and getting 3 after they got on the scoreboard. This was the drive of the game for me. When we absolutely had to have something, we did.

4) Running the clock down and scoring at the end to ice it. Duh.
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OSU’s lone non-TD scoring drive in the second half (outside of the garbage time one at the end).

That drive was huge.
Not because we stopped them from scoring per se.

But because it burned 4+ minutes of the 4th quarter.
When time was at a premium.
Day used 4+ minutes to run 7 plays and gain a net 6 yards.

It was epic mismanagement.
 
Brains said:
There were four crucial instances of the OSU game:

1) After the fumble, we got a 3 and out and then the offense went down for 7. We put the mistake totally behind us;

2) The pick 6. Duh.

3) Burning clock and getting 3 after they got on the scoreboard. This was the drive of the game for me. When we absolutely had to have something, we did.

4) Running the clock down and scoring at the end to ice it. Duh.
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#3 was MASSIVE

Also because it got Carter Davis back on track just in case. Dude is nails. He got ****ed by the wind against A&M

It’s why your point about CJ Daniels getting 7-8 yards instead of the bomb attempt

People were saying they didn’t trust Davis but with our offense and lack of explosives we HAVE to give him chances
 
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JHallCanes said:
We dominated OSU for 80% of that game

My only concern with us is the same concern I’ve had all year

We leave a lot of points on the field

At some point we have to figure that out when an offense challenges our defense. I think that team is Indiana personally but it could happen this week as well

We haven’t see our offense play an A game yet which is concerning but also to me means we haven’t seen our best football either which should scare other teams
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Our biggest issue I agree. But Ole Miss is mid 70’s in TFL’s, mid 60’s in sacks, and far worse than us in RZ offense and defense. There should not be any getting backed out of FG range with negative plays, or not getting points. once we get into that red area

I know the game ain’t played on paper. Just stating the numbers.
 
Brains said:
I've been a broken record on that subject. Due to the pick 6, I consider the Fletcher fumble largely a wash. However, that's not really a thing.

We need to be the team that doesn't leave points on the field. That should have been 3. The late first half drive where Beck went deep, he should have gone to Daniels. That's probably another 3 points.

I know it's not possible to play this game, because different variables/situations/calculus would arise as a result, but for the sake of argument, that means we can run out the clock up 23-14 in the 4th quarter.

The margins are so important at this stage. They can change everything.
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UL & SMU Games:

Offensive drives in which we ran an offensive play in the opponent's territory: 15
Drives with 0 points: 7
Points per Drive: 2.67

Last 4 games of regular season: (garbage-time drives with Emory excluded)

Offensive drives in which we ran an offensive play in the opponent's territory: 27
Drives with 0 points: 5
Points per Drive: 4.96

A&M + OSU Games:

Offensive drives in which we ran an offensive play in the opponent's territory: 10
Drives with 0 points: 5
Points per Drive: 2.7

It's becoming a problem again. My primary concern with the Ole Miss game is that we will have empty drives while we move the ball against their porous defense, and they will generate enough points to get ahead by 2 scores. Our offense isn't built for success there, and a turnover would be catastrophic. We need to be more efficient scoring points or our defense has to be amazing limiting Ole Miss scoring points. Hopefully both.
 
Looking at this match up from their perspective....

Having watched us for two games now they are going to need a performance of the ages from their quarterback. That's what they're sitting over there thinking. That's their only hope. They need a Joe Burrow or Can Newton game from Chambliss.

Conversely we are sitting over here with multiple paths to victory. We can just cram it down their throats for 60 minutes, or let Carson eat, or just completely wreck them in the trenches specifically the DL.

Good team, but I'm not scared
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
Our biggest issue I agree. But Ole Miss is mid 70’s in TFL’s, mid 60’s in sacks, and far worse than us in RZ offense and defense.

I know the game ain’t played on paper. Just stating the numbers.
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Spooky similar to A&M and somehow it ended 10-3

I “think” Dawson learned from that one though

Just those small little wrinkles go a long way in this offense no need to get crazy
 
As long as Heatherman stops dropping Mesidor into coverage UM will win…I’m JK.

In all honesty, despite the difference on the lines, Heatherman and the defense have their work cut out for them.
 
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the QB might be the most dynamic we faced this year but the more I think about it the more I think we got lucky by drawing a team who has significant coaching instability at the moment.
 
****, i'm 23 pages too late to catch up, and though I'm sure it's been said to a sim extent

This is GT vs Miami last season, with Miami minimizing the offensive possessions for Ole Miss.
Considering we should be able to run the ball, and the clock, 7 - 8 min drives, here we come!!!

Let's go Canes!

edit - 68th in rush defense
 
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