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Canesallday09 said:
It’s crazy how everyone acknowledges we are better at the LOS yet they pick them to beat us. Usually the best team in the trenches wins. This game will be no different. Canes by 7.
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NOBODY trust Beck.. He gonna have to go out and prove every one wrong.. Plus all american center will have hands full with all american also..

 
skyman said:
NOBODY trust Beck.. He gonna have to go out and prove every one wrong.. Plus all american center will have hands full with all american also..

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This is the key matchup. Brockermeyer has to at least be decent against #98 in the run game, who is a freaking beast. I expect them to show a lot of bear fronts on early downs, so he's not gonna be able to get help from the guards in those spots
 
skyman said:
NOBODY trust Beck.. He gonna have to go out and prove every one wrong.. Plus all american center will have hands full with all american also..

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No idea why you wouldn’t trust Beck. He’s had, maybe, two bad quarters all season. Anyone who thinks the offensive performance in the TAMU game was due to poor QB play knows nothing about football and/or didn’t watch the game.
 
Steve44 said:
Well, their season stats and draft grades of the players all over the defense deserve respect. Oh, and they are the defending National Champs. Describing respect as “Weak minded” is a little much, considering an elementary football fan can see they have studs on defense. But go ahead champ, pound your chest.
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Last year‘s champs aren’t this team? I saw this team get beaten up on the line of scrimmage by Indiana. They are in for a rude awakening when they play our offense and defensive line. That’s not beating my chest, those are facts.
 
dycane said:
No idea why you wouldn’t trust Beck. He’s had, maybe, two bad quarters all season. Anyone who thinks the offensive performance in the TAMU game was due to poor QB play knows nothing about football and/or didn’t watch the game.
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You listen to any national pod, its the same thing.. Maybe they are over playing those two bad quarters but thats the narrative around him, right or wrong. Good thing is he has opportunity to prove everyone wrong, the cfb world will be watching him shred the #1 defense in land..
 
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I think this game is a race to 20 tbh.

For as talented as Ohio St is, offensively the key is entirely 3 things - Shut down the run game, Stop Jeremiah Smith, Stop Carnell tate. That's the entirety of this offense. They are surprisingly NOT a very explosive offense. We have to be extremely committed to stopping the run. And We have to emphasize guarding outside the numbers when Tate is lined up to the left, and stopping Jeremiah Smith everywhere, but between the numbers especially. This is a game I'd want Fitzgerald playing a lot of single high safety. Idk man I'm really quite confident in our Defense in this game. Sure Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate could beat us, but that's gunna be a lot of just good against good with our CBs+S+Nickel against those 2. If they win that way, hey they earn it. But one thing we have to ensure is we shut down their run game with our Dline. And when we get to the QB no excuses but to bring him down.

Offensively This game comes down to 4 things. 1. Dawson calling a good game. Can't have too many wasted plays, and most importantly when we get in the redzone we need TDs not FGs 2. Brockermeyer vs Mcdonald particularly in the run game. 3. Beck PLAYING TO WIN. and 4. ANY of our WRs outside of Toney to be productive and generate some explosive plays. WE need to attack the intermediate-deep part of the field. If we just allow their Safeties and Downs to attack downhill against our run game, then it'll be a long day and we'll constantly be in 3rd down pass situations where we have struggled all year. Otherwise we are going to have very little chance of successfully running all that much imo. Need a big day out of Toney of course, but I think what Daniels, Trader, Marrion, Moore, and Tony Johnson do may be the deciding factor. They MUST be a threat to give us the ability to run the ball with any success. The strength of Ohio Sts defense is their Run Stuffing DT, their LBs, and Downs.
 
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Mario understandably wants to avoid pulling from the 2002 game but I see a lot of parallels and lessons to draw from.

The roles are reversed.

We believed the same things they belive about us right now. We had the dominant defense with 1st rounders littered around it. And we had an offense that was unstoppable with the same dominant WR in Andre Johnson.

But go back and think about what happened that day. What was the surprise? And it happened immediately, the first offensive play of the game. Their D Line came with their hair on fire 🔥 and made Dorsey shook and uncomfortable from the beginning. Our OLine got handled, not manhandled but definitely handled. Their defense was flying all over the place and they took away everything underneath, including the run but kinda left their CBs to duel with Johnson banking on Dorsey’s timing being off and his accuracy. And it worked.

Their offense was mostly horizontal, run based, dependent on one or two explosives a game, and unspectacular by playoff/postseason standards as well. But they believed and kept chopping at it. The play of their defense fueled the offense’s belief and their OLine eventually held up as well. Our offense right now is much better than OSU’s 2002 offense. If our OLine blocks ESPECIALLY the interior of Brockermeyer, Pancake, McCoy and Cooper, we win.

OSU won because of Terry Porter’s devilry. But they stayed close enough for him to pull that off by their trenches playing lights out and surprising our team.

They were counted out by the media and all metrics said they should lose as well! But then their trenches showed up and overachieved just for one night.

OSU hasn’t changed. Ohio doesn’t change. It’s the culture here to be the same everyday no matter what that is. We have to be tough on Wednesday. We have to have Blood In Our Eyes. They had nothing to lose and they played like it.

We must play in the trenches like it’s our last day on Earth. If we do, we beat them easily and won’t require a cheating late flag.

If we have no penalties, we will have no turnovers. They go hand and hand mentally. Play clean and tough. Dawson go vertical and run the ball between the Guards and Tackles.
 
HarrietTubmanCane said:
Mario understandably wants to avoid pulling from the 2002 game but I see a lot of parallels and lessons to draw from.

The roles are reversed.

We believed the same things they belive about us right now. We had the dominant defense with 1st rounders littered around it. And we had an offense that was unstoppable with the same dominant WR in Andre Johnson.

But go back and think about what happened that day. What was the surprise? And it happened immediately, the first offensive play of the game. Their D Line came with their hair on fire 🔥 and made Dorsey shook and uncomfortable from the beginning. Our OLine got handled, not manhandled but definitely handled. Their defense was flying all over the place and they took away everything underneath, including the run but kinda left their CBs to duel with Johnson banking on Dorsey’s timing being off and his accuracy. And it worked.

Their offense was mostly horizontal, run based, dependent on one or two explosives a game, and unspectacular by playoff/postseason standards as well. But they believed and kept chopping at it. The play of their defense fueled the offense’s belief and their OLine eventually held up as well. Our offense right now is much better than OSU’s 2002 offense. If our OLine blocks ESPECIALLY the interior of Brockermeyer, Pancake, McCoy and Cooper, we win.

OSU won because of Terry Porter’s devilry. But they stayed close enough for him to pull that off by their trenches playing lights out and surprising our team.

They were counted out by the media and all metrics said they should lose as well! But then their trenches showed up and overachieved just for one night.

OSU hasn’t changed. Ohio doesn’t change. It’s the culture here to be the same everyday no matter what that is. We have to be tough on Wednesday. We have to have Blood In Our Eyes. They had nothing to lose and they played like it.

We must play in the trenches like it’s our last day on Earth. If we do, we beat them easily and won’t require a cheating late flag.

If we have no penalties, we will have no turnovers. They go hand and hand mentally. Play clean and tough. Dawson go vertical and run the ball between the Guards and Tackles.
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For the roles to truly be reversed, Smith would have to injure his shoulder the way McGahee did his knee.

McGahee wasn't having the best game but was still a huge loss. Could make an argument that we win if the injury doesn't happen.

Losing Smith would have the same impact on them even if we mostly shut him down up to that point. I think Sayin would panic and try to force the ball to Tate.
 
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