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The new President will be Julio Frenk Mora

wspcane said:
They really re-shaped that campus. They added a massive second building to the business school while gutting the existing building in 2005-2008, and now added a whole second expansion to it recently. They rebuilt the student union. That street in the middle used to be open to traffic. They shut it off and made it pedestrian only. Built more dorms and academic support over by The Boot. Obviously added the football stadium (name donor of the stadium is a family from Miami). Then the front of campus by the park they left largely untouched.

But equally important, they have a ton of programs connecting students with local tech start-ups, accounting firms, law firms, etc. They require students to do community outreach and volunteer programs. They also rebuilt the medical school back up after Katrina and joined a JV with LSU and another hospital on a HUGE new campus near the French Quarter on Canal St (as opposed to Shalala overpaying HCA by 9 figures and then poaching patients from Jackson, nearly sending both hospitals into ruin). They had two killer presidents back to back, while UM was stuck with this.
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Shalalaalaala is a POS of the highest order.
 
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duke4heisman said:
Shalalaalaala is a POS of the highest order.
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Idiots like Canedud will defend her come **** or highwater because he thinks it is some political affront or automatic R vs. D comment if you did not like her. She was a really good fundraiser but she also made some truly boneheaded decisions and did not invest that money back into the school, other than the building with her name plastered on it. Every other business in the world has capex to continue improving and positioning itself for the future other than UM.
 
wspcane said:
This is 100% correct. My dad graduated undergrad and med school, and continued to be extremely involved until the last few years. Shalala's asinine purchase of the hospital, Goldschmidt, and some other things made him much less active.

For me, the law school career center was 100% useless. I got a masters in accounting before starting law school and got an LLM in Tax. Obviously in 2009-2010 there were not many tax law jobs to be had, so the big four accounting firms were fortunately a viable option to start my career. The law school career center did nothing to help in my efforts to go in that direction, and I wound up networking and getting the job entirely on my own.

Incidentally, Big 4 law firms hire a ton of attorneys out of school, which is a great way to start building your resume before pivoting back to law. There is still zero effort made by the law school to help their students have more job opportunities through that avenue. They are more worried about continuing to teach Elements to 1Ls a depress GPAs with a 2.7 curve. To your point, because of all of this, I will never give a cent to the law school and told them to stop contacting me unless it is to connect me with students who would like help starting their careers. Unsurprisingly, I have never heard from anyone.

The tax reform excise tax on university endowments may force Miami's hand into giving out more scholarships, but they need a president with way better vision and aggression. I went to Tulane for undergrad, and their last two presidents are pretty much what Miami needs. I know UM is never getting an on-campus stadium, but coming out of a 1-2 punch of Katrina and the recession, that school has never been stronger. They have rebuilt most of the campus and reshaped it in the last few years, built an on-campus football stadium for a program that no one really cares about, continued to recruit better and better students, use New Orleans to its fullest, focus on its strongest academic programs, entered into tons of new community outreach and job placement programs. We have Frenk that sits in front of his mirror with a can of mousse and a lint roller.
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I am an MBA-JD-LLM in Tax as well. Are you still in Big 4 or have you moved into corporate tax?

Not to nitpick, but I think you meant Big 4 accounting firms, not law firms. And correct me if I am wrong, but it was my understanding that UM Law is no longer on the C-curve. I was in the last graduating class to have the C-curve as a 1L. The next year, UM got rid of the C-curve mid-year, and then the following year the 1Ls did not have it at all.

My law school GPA is still screwed up, even though I graduated with honors, and was on UM Law Review.

Good times...
 
wspcane said:
They really re-shaped that campus. They added a massive second building to the business school while gutting the existing building in 2005-2008, and now added a whole second expansion to it recently. They rebuilt the student union. That street in the middle used to be open to traffic. They shut it off and made it pedestrian only. Built more dorms and academic support over by The Boot. Obviously added the football stadium (name donor of the stadium is a family from Miami). Then the front of campus by the park they left largely untouched.

But equally important, they have a ton of programs connecting students with local tech start-ups, accounting firms, law firms, etc. They require students to do community outreach and volunteer programs. They also rebuilt the medical school back up after Katrina and joined a JV with LSU and another hospital on a HUGE new campus near the French Quarter on Canal St (as opposed to Shalala overpaying HCA by 9 figures and then poaching patients from Jackson, nearly sending both hospitals into ruin). They had two killer presidents back to back, while UM was stuck with this.
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Agree with you 100% that Shalala's handling of the hospital was a mistake (and yes, a large one), but she was very good with all of the other academic programs.

It's sad, I think that some people thought that the hiring of Frenk would offset Shalala's misstep on the hospital, but he really hasn't done ANYTHING of long-term value for any department.
 
wspcane said:
Idiots like Canedud will defend her come **** or highwater because he thinks it is some political affront or automatic R vs. D comment if you did not like her. She was a really good fundraiser but she also made some truly boneheaded decisions and did not invest that money back into the school, other than the building with her name plastered on it. Every other business in the world has capex to continue improving and positioning itself for the future other than UM.
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The fundraisers have DISPROPORTIONATELY gone to fund the Med School ever since Foote.

And this is not a defense of Shalala, since the problems go back to Foote, but the City of Coral Gables ****-blocked us on Cap-Ex for about a decade, as they tried to extort money from UM to pay for "police" and whatnot, even though UM has its own department.

I remember what the Med School campus was in the 1980s, and when you compare it to what we have now, it is obvious that the Med School has had a blank check for CapEx, while we are JUST NOW building new dorms on the main campus. Seriously, the Student Union and Eaton would have been renovated in the 1990s if Coral Gables had allowed it.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I am an MBA-JD-LLM in Tax as well. Are you still in Big 4 or have you moved into corporate tax?

Not to nitpick, but I think you meant Big 4 accounting firms, not law firms. And correct me if I am wrong, but it was my understanding that UM Law is no longer on the C-curve. I was in the last graduating class to have the C-curve as a 1L. The next year, UM got rid of the C-curve mid-year, and then the following year the 1Ls did not have it at all.

My law school GPA is still screwed up, even though I graduated with honors, and was on UM Law Review.

Good times...
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I meant Big 4 accounting firms, yes. I would say my group at EY hired 50/50 lawyers to accountants, as did many other tax practice groups there. Same at KPMG.

What year did you graduate? My JD was 09 and we were 100% on the 2.7 curve, and it was that way through the time that I left at a minimum.

I moved in house and am a tax director for a health system here in Georgia now, but spent the better part of 8 long years in big 4 tax. Do you practice or did you move out of the legal world?
 
wspcane said:
I meant Big 4 accounting firms, yes. I would say my group at EY hired 50/50 lawyers to accountants, as did many other tax practice groups there. Same at KPMG.

What year did you graduate? My JD was 09 and we were 100% on the 2.7 curve, and it was that way through the time that I left at a minimum.

I moved in house and am a tax director for a health system here in Georgia now, but spent the better part of 8 long years in big 4 tax. Do you practice or did you move out of the legal world?
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Graduated with my JD from UM in 2013 and they were no longer using the 2.7 curve by the time I left.
 
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Katzenboyer said:
Graduated with my JD from UM in 2013 and they were no longer using the 2.7 curve by the time I left.
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OK, so let me see if I can figure out a couple of things.

I just googled, and it looks like the 2.7 grade at UM is a B-.

When I was at UM, we were on a C curve, so (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) I think that the percentages were something like 80% (there was a plus or minus number too) of the class had to have a C+ or lower. And a C+ is a 2.3.

Then UM got rid of the C-curve (mid-90s). And it looks like they (maybe) brought in a B- curve for a while, and (maybe) have since gotten rid of the B- curve?

Weird stuff.

And they wonder why the UM Law reputation continues to lag.
 
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