The Myth Of Golden Being A Good Recruiter

[252cane]

This fan base seems to think that he was actually a good recruiter. A good recruiter doesn't bring in a few good recruits and then twice as many guys who should not even be at miami. Everyone thinks the 2012 class was great but i know it wasn't. Let's take a look.

RECRUITING CLASS: CommitsOffersVisits
PLAYER POS LOCATION HT WT STARS GRADE SCHOOL

Tracy Howard
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#1 CB Miramar, FL
Miramar High School 5'11'' 175 83
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Randy Johnson
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#6 ATH Miami, FL
Miami Norland High School 5'9'' 180 82
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Angelo Jean-Louis
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#4 WR Wellington, FL
Palm Beach Central High School 6'0'' 185 82
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Tyriq McCord
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#1 3 DE Tampa, FL
Thomas Jefferson High School 6'3'' 220 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Deon Bush
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#4 S Miami, FL
Christopher Columbus High School 6'1'' 177 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Malcolm Lewis
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#20 WR Miramar, FL
Miramar High School 5'11'' 185 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Raphael Kirby
Video | Scouts Report
#1 3 OLB Stone Mountain, GA
Stephenson High School 6'1'' 215 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Preston Dewey
Video | Scouts Report
#21 QB Austin, TX
St. Andrews High School 6'2'' 200 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Daniel Isidora
Video | Scouts Report
#1 7 OG Weston, FL
Cypress Bay High School 6'3'' 336 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jelani Hamilton
Video | Scouts Report
#37 DE Fort Lauderdale, FL
Saint Thomas Aquinas High School 6'4'' 245 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Rob Lockhart
Video | Scouts Report
WR (POST) Boca Raton, FL
Fork Union Military Academy 6'1'' 180 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jawand Blue
Video | Scouts Report
#1 8 ILB Boca Raton, FL
West Boca Raton High School 6'0'' 194 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jontavious Carter
Video | Scouts Report
#56 WR Cordele, GA
Crisp County High School 6'3'' 192 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

D'Mauri Jones
Video | Scouts Report
#59 WR Lessburg, FL
Leesburg High School 6'3'' 185 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Josh Witt
Video | Scouts Report
#4 9 OLB Weston, FL
Cypress Bay High School 6'1'' 215 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Ereck Flowers
Video | Scouts Report
#57 OT Miami, FL
Miami Norland High School 6'6'' 295 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Gabriel Terry
Video | Scouts Report
#58 OLB Wellington, FL
Palm Beach Central High School 6'3'' 210 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jacoby Briscoe
Video | Scouts Report
#4 4 DT Lafayette, LA
Carencro High School 6'4'' 290 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Dwayne Hoilett
Video | Scouts Report
#6 7 DE Vero Beach, FL
Vero Beach Senior High School 6'3'' 212 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Herb Waters
Video | Scouts Report
#6 7 ATH Homestead, FL
Homestead Senior High School 6'0'' 173 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Nathan Dortch
Video | Scouts Report
#36 CB Fort Myers, FL
South Fort Myers High School 5'11'' 170 77
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jake O'Donnell
Video | Scouts Report
#92 DE Doylestown, PA
Central Bucks East High School 6'5'' 235 77
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Rayshawn Jenkins
Video | Scouts Report
#4 2 S Saint Petersburg, FL
Admiral Farragut Academy 6'1'' 190 77
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Vernon Davis
Video | Scouts Report
#57 CB Miami, FL
Coral Reef High School 5'9'' 170 76
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Larry Hope
Video | Scouts Report
#6 0 CB Hialeah, FL
American High School 5'10'' 160 76
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Gray Crow
Video | Scouts Report
#81 QB Clearwater, FL
Countryside High School 6'3'' 220 75
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Dequan Ivery
Video | Scouts Report
#92 DT Lake City, FL
Columbia High School 6'1'' 315 75
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Earl Moore
Video | Scouts Report
#1 28 DT Tampa, FL
Hillsborough High School 6'1'' 280 74
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

David Thompson
Video | Scouts Report
#1 12 QB Miami, FL
Westminster Christian School 6'1'' 195 74
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Danny Dillard
Video | Scouts Report
#1 28 RB Venice, FL
Venice High School 6'1'' 210 73
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Taylor Gadbois
Video | Scouts Report
OT (POST) Dallas, GA
Fork Union Military Academy 6'7'' 300 73
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Antonio Crawford
Video | Scouts Report
#1 70 ATH Tampa Bay, FL
Plant Senior High School 5'11'' 175 73
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Ladarius Gunter
Video | Scouts Report
CB (JC) Montgomery, AL
Fort Scott Community College 6'2'' 200
NR
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

30+ recruits and maybe 10 turned out to be good players but people think he was a good recruiter. Everyone of his classes except maybe 2014 has been a few good recruits paired with a lot of reaches.

This program needs good coaches and good recruiters too becauase the team is lacking at a few positions.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Not developing players is just as bad IMO. Gorlden was not very good at that either.

 

[Cribby]

He wore a tie doe

 

[OrangetieFatface]

Not developing players is just as bad IMO. Gorlden was not very good at that either.

Or retaining them.

Attrition was an even worse problem then development.

 

[Coach Macho]

Terrible at evaluating talent.

 

[drewm3i]

He wasn't great at anything, but he did amass some talent for the next coach. Last year alone we had 7 players drafted so he was doing something right. As I said, he wasn't a great recruiter, but he did accumulate a good amount of talent except for OL and DT.

 

[Coach Macho]

He wasn't great at anything, but he did amass some talent for the next coach. Last year alone we had 7 players drafted so he was doing something right. As I said, he wasn't a great recruiter, but he did accumulate a good amount of talent except for OL and DT.

The guys that were drafted were Shannon recruits.

 

[brock]

Good top end talent, bad charachter evaluation on alot of kids though

 

[brock]

He wasn't great at anything, but he did amass some talent for the next coach. Last year alone we had 7 players drafted so he was doing something right. As I said, he wasn't a great recruiter, but he did accumulate a good amount of talent except for OL and DT.

The guys that were drafted were Shannon recruits.

Ereck flowers? At the end of the day those guys were developed. perryman, Clive walford, Duke Johnson, Phillip Dorsett, flowers, armbrister, Gunter. They all got better every year. Coming from highschool I would have never though Dorsett would have been a 1st round pick

 

[gcane101]

Bad character evalutaion and bad player development.

 

[Cribby]

He has great hair doe

 

[Dwinstitles]

Terrible at evaluating talent.

Nailed it

 

[kryptonite]

Not a great recruiter, but a good one. He convinced some talented kids to come to Miami despite the obvious fact that he couldn't win his way out of a wet paper bag. Or something. A better coach would have developed the talent better and won a lot more with them, which would have let to better recruits wanting to come to Miami. Whatever, he sucked and he's gone.

 

[FullyERicht]

Miami has the 2nd most players in the NFL.

Miami has higher rated classes than everyone it plays except FSU for a decade.

The problem is and was COACHING.

Al Golden was considered one of the best recruiters in the biz. But when you can't win, you can't recruit. We have gone over this hundreds of times for the love of god.

 

[alwaysacane]

we should fly a banner!!!

 

[252cane]

Miami has the 2nd most players in the NFL.

Miami has higher rated classes than everyone it plays except FSU for a decade.

The problem is and was COACHING.

Al Golden was considered one of the best recruiters in the biz. But when you can't win, you can't recruit. We have gone over this hundreds of times for the love of god.

He was not considered one of the best. The only clown that said that was tom lemming. Ask anybody at other recruiting services. **** ask pete, dmoney, kyle, geo etc. The guy was a average recruiter.

 

[Gatorhater]

He is gone and that is the best thing he did.

 

[firstandcanes]

He was a good recruiter not elite. Let's face it though we will always get talent based on our history and location. Next coach has to get the studs to stay home. No more losing the Dalvin Cook's and Calvin Ridley's amongst others.

 

[roam305]

For coming into the south florida cold turkey and under the circumstances he did I think he did a good job.
The next coach that takes over won't have a the roster holes that he inherited.

 

[Rellyrell]

This fan base seems to think that he was actually a good recruiter. A good recruiter doesn't bring in a few good recruits and then twice as many guys who should not even be at miami. Everyone thinks the 2012 class was great but i know it wasn't. Let's take a look.

RECRUITING CLASS: CommitsOffersVisits
PLAYER POS LOCATION HT WT STARS GRADE SCHOOL

Tracy Howard
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#1 CB Miramar, FL
Miramar High School 5'11'' 175 83
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Randy Johnson
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#6 ATH Miami, FL
Miami Norland High School 5'9'' 180 82
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Angelo Jean-Louis
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#4 WR Wellington, FL
Palm Beach Central High School 6'0'' 185 82
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Tyriq McCord
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#1 3 DE Tampa, FL
Thomas Jefferson High School 6'3'' 220 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Deon Bush
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#4 S Miami, FL
Christopher Columbus High School 6'1'' 177 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Malcolm Lewis
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 150
#20 WR Miramar, FL
Miramar High School 5'11'' 185 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Raphael Kirby
Video | Scouts Report
#1 3 OLB Stone Mountain, GA
Stephenson High School 6'1'' 215 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Preston Dewey
Video | Scouts Report
#21 QB Austin, TX
St. Andrews High School 6'2'' 200 80
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Daniel Isidora
Video | Scouts Report
#1 7 OG Weston, FL
Cypress Bay High School 6'3'' 336 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jelani Hamilton
Video | Scouts Report
#37 DE Fort Lauderdale, FL
Saint Thomas Aquinas High School 6'4'' 245 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Rob Lockhart
Video | Scouts Report
WR (POST) Boca Raton, FL
Fork Union Military Academy 6'1'' 180 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jawand Blue
Video | Scouts Report
#1 8 ILB Boca Raton, FL
West Boca Raton High School 6'0'' 194 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jontavious Carter
Video | Scouts Report
#56 WR Cordele, GA
Crisp County High School 6'3'' 192 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

D'Mauri Jones
Video | Scouts Report
#59 WR Lessburg, FL
Leesburg High School 6'3'' 185 79
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Josh Witt
Video | Scouts Report
#4 9 OLB Weston, FL
Cypress Bay High School 6'1'' 215 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Ereck Flowers
Video | Scouts Report
#57 OT Miami, FL
Miami Norland High School 6'6'' 295 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Gabriel Terry
Video | Scouts Report
#58 OLB Wellington, FL
Palm Beach Central High School 6'3'' 210 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jacoby Briscoe
Video | Scouts Report
#4 4 DT Lafayette, LA
Carencro High School 6'4'' 290 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Dwayne Hoilett
Video | Scouts Report
#6 7 DE Vero Beach, FL
Vero Beach Senior High School 6'3'' 212 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Herb Waters
Video | Scouts Report
#6 7 ATH Homestead, FL
Homestead Senior High School 6'0'' 173 78
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Nathan Dortch
Video | Scouts Report
#36 CB Fort Myers, FL
South Fort Myers High School 5'11'' 170 77
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Jake O'Donnell
Video | Scouts Report
#92 DE Doylestown, PA
Central Bucks East High School 6'5'' 235 77
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Rayshawn Jenkins
Video | Scouts Report
#4 2 S Saint Petersburg, FL
Admiral Farragut Academy 6'1'' 190 77
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Vernon Davis
Video | Scouts Report
#57 CB Miami, FL
Coral Reef High School 5'9'' 170 76
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Larry Hope
Video | Scouts Report
#6 0 CB Hialeah, FL
American High School 5'10'' 160 76
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Gray Crow
Video | Scouts Report
#81 QB Clearwater, FL
Countryside High School 6'3'' 220 75
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Dequan Ivery
Video | Scouts Report
#92 DT Lake City, FL
Columbia High School 6'1'' 315 75
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Earl Moore
Video | Scouts Report
#1 28 DT Tampa, FL
Hillsborough High School 6'1'' 280 74
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

David Thompson
Video | Scouts Report
#1 12 QB Miami, FL
Westminster Christian School 6'1'' 195 74
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Danny Dillard
Video | Scouts Report
#1 28 RB Venice, FL
Venice High School 6'1'' 210 73
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Taylor Gadbois
Video | Scouts Report
OT (POST) Dallas, GA
Fork Union Military Academy 6'7'' 300 73
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Antonio Crawford
Video | Scouts Report
#1 70 ATH Tampa Bay, FL
Plant Senior High School 5'11'' 175 73
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

Ladarius Gunter
Video | Scouts Report
CB (JC) Montgomery, AL
Fort Scott Community College 6'2'' 200
NR
MIAMI (FL)
SIGNED

30+ recruits and maybe 10 turned out to be good players but people think he was a good recruiter. Everyone of his classes except maybe 2014 has been a few good recruits paired with a lot of reaches.

This program needs good coaches and good recruiters too becauase the team is lacking at a few positions.

Said this b4 to the slurp derps that Golden was extremely overrated as a recruiter. Each year after his 1st real class in 2012, it got worst. The attrition rate under Golden was unbelievable, worst under any coach in the P5.

Couple that w/ the shear lack of player development, in particular, on the defensive side of the ball, and you have the worst coach in Canes football history, imo.