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k9cane

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just watching over college games, involving the likes of UCLA, Tenn, etc, just how easy they move the ball and score. They create open space for their skill guys, big plays downfield, and it looks easy and efficient. It looks modern. We looks prehistoric at times in our approach

Our old friend, Jedd Fisch, is putting up some numbers at a rebuilding Arizona program. Oregon, they are racking up numbers. Go down the line across the country.

Everything UM does offensively is a grind. Just very difficult, and they can't layer their plays to create explosive ones down the line

Yeah, I get it, our OLine is depleted, running backs are down, we need an infusion of speed outside (all of which will be addressed through recruiting and portal), but your system and play-calling have to be tailored for the current players you have. I get it, I dont expect the 2001 unit, but I would think we should average at least 20 points vs P5 teams

Last season under Lashlee we were around 35 points per game.

I dont know if this is all on Josh Gattis, but he certainly shoulders some of the blame.

My one concern about Mario was his offensive philosophy(tied into game management), and well, this season hasn't assuaged my worries in that department. It's Ok to put up 50-points on folks and just blow them out. It doesn't always have to be ground-and-pound.
 
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k9cane said:
just watching over college games, involving the likes of UCLA, Tenn, etc, just how easy they move the ball and score. They create open space for their skill guys, big plays downfield, and it looks easy and efficient. It looks modern. We looks prehistoric at times in our approach

Our old friend, Jedd Fisch, is putting up some numbers at a rebuilding Arizona program. Oregon, they are racking up numbers. Go down the line across the country.

Everything UM does offensively is a grind. Just very difficult, and they can't layer their plays to create explosive ones down the line

Yeah, I get it, our OLine is depleted, running backs are down, we need an infusion of speed outside (all of which will be addressed through recruiting and portal), but your system and play-calling have to be tailored for the current players you have. I get it, I dont expect the 2001 unit, but I would think we should average at least 20 points vs P5 teams

Last season under Lashlee we were around 35 points per game.

I dont know if this is all on Josh Gattis, but he certainly shoulders some of the blame.

My one concern about Mario was his offensive philosophy(tied into game management), and well, this season hasn't assuaged my worries in that department. It's Ok to put up 50-points on folks and just blow them out. It doesn't always have to be ground-and-pound.
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to my uneducated football eye his offense creates no space. one play I saw stands out on the final drive where all the receivers seemed to run to the middle of the field. just awful to watch,
 
You probably turned Mario on when he got to "Everything UM does offensively is a grind"

Also I dont see the emphasis on SPEEEEEEEEED yet.. You cant watch Tenn with Hyatt running 10.4 and expect your 4.8 speed guys to duplicate :penguininatux:


Hire guy who has ground and pound philosophy and expect him not to do what he does :ibis-roflmao-sm3:


We are going to have to be supremely talented team and outathlete them, Mario is about talent acquisition and run into wall neanderthal football.. Accept it and hope we can acquire the amount of talent needed and then have the develop quickly enough before younger recruits turn on message to bring in next class.. We not gonna light up scoreboards, that not Mario, he doesnt believe in it..

@Glow posted this

 
So tell me again…. Why did Miami hire Mario for?? 8 million a year is a lot of money to give away and **** God knows I can use just a fraction of his money doing the same thing. He might not have his guys, but I don’t think Miami should be looking this HORRIBLE on offense and Gattis needs to be shown the front door. So many explosive offenses in the college game and Miami has the worst looking one in all college football!
 
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423Hurricane said:
It doesn’t seem like Mario is averse to passing. TVD threw it 57 times against UNC and another 35 at VT. The obvious issue is the offensive scheme and that falls squarely on the shoulders of Gattis.
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Mario HIRED Gattis, He hired Ponce. Our QB look worse than last year, not only TVD but Garcia look like Kirby Freeman.

Also its not just throwing the ball, you cant look at box scores and say oh "Mario is Lincoln Riley with the pill bro!" Its about philosophy, Mario has made it abundantly clear he doesnt want to run those types of offenses.. He had full autonomy to hire who he wanted and the wallet to get that also, he held multiple interviews, these are his choices, he greenlit the scheme
 
k9cane said:
just watching over college games, involving the likes of UCLA, Tenn, etc, just how easy they move the ball and score. They create open space for their skill guys, big plays downfield, and it looks easy and efficient. It looks modern. We looks prehistoric at times in our approach

Our old friend, Jedd Fisch, is putting up some numbers at a rebuilding Arizona program. Oregon, they are racking up numbers. Go down the line across the country.

Everything UM does offensively is a grind. Just very difficult, and they can't layer their plays to create explosive ones down the line

Yeah, I get it, our OLine is depleted, running backs are down, we need an infusion of speed outside (all of which will be addressed through recruiting and portal), but your system and play-calling have to be tailored for the current players you have. I get it, I dont expect the 2001 unit, but I would think we should average at least 20 points vs P5 teams

Last season under Lashlee we were around 35 points per game.

I dont know if this is all on Josh Gattis, but he certainly shoulders some of the blame.

My one concern about Mario was his offensive philosophy(tied into game management), and well, this season hasn't assuaged my worries in that department. It's Ok to put up 50-points on folks and just blow them out. It doesn't always have to be ground-and-pound.
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Mario needs to realize you can have power concepts and physicality and still use finesse aspects too. There’s no reason you shouldn’t be using space instead of bodies. It makes no sense. It‘a the definition of making things harder.

BTW all of them deserve blame. The entire offensive staff and the Head man.
 
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skyman said:
Mario HIRED Gattis, He hired Ponce. Our QB look worse than last year, not only TVD but Garcia look like Kirby Freeman.

Also its not just throwing the ball, you cant look at box scores and say oh "Mario is Lincoln Riley with the pill bro!" Its about philosophy, Mario has made it abundantly clear he doesnt want to run those types of offenses.. He had full autonomy to hire who he wanted and the wallet to get that also, he held multiple interviews, these are his choices, he greenlit the scheme
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I’m not going to get into the hiring process, but from what we all heard, I don’t think Gattis was his 1st choice. Water under the bridge at this point.

There’s also the argument that Mario isn’t an X’s and O’s guru so my question is just how much influence does he really have on the O scheme.

We could go on and on as to why we’re seeing the **** we’re seeing on offense. Bottom line is it’s obvious something’s gotta give and only Mario has the power to change it…… or not.
 
skyman said:
You probably turned Mario on when he got to "Everything UM does offensively is a grind"

Also I dont see the emphasis on SPEEEEEEEEED yet.. You cant watch Tenn with Hyatt running 10.4 and expect your 4.8 speed guys to duplicate :penguininatux:


Hire guy who has ground and pound philosophy and expect him not to do what he does :ibis-roflmao-sm3:


We are going to have to be supremely talented team and outathlete them, Mario is about talent acquisition and run into wall neanderthal football.. Accept it and hope we can acquire the amount of talent needed and then have the develop quickly enough before younger recruits turn on message to bring in next class.. We not gonna light up scoreboards, that not Mario, he doesnt believe in it..

@Glow posted this

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We are 113th in run/pass ratio. This isn’t smash mouth football. That’s a myth that needs to die. This is a pass-happy offense that sucks at passing.

We need massive, fundamental changes, but the problem isn’t running too much.
 
Cristobal and Mirabal are to blame. We gave control of the team to a couple Westchester street kids who preach toughness and OL acumen, but we can't score from the 1 yard line. Their macho head games will remain an obstacle until they decide to hand over the reigns to someone innovative and stay out of the way. They can still get their rocks off coaching technique during practice but these two Miami bros have no business determining how the offense should look.
 
rt cane said:
Did you see how happy Mario was, he couldn't hide it. He was in his element with this offense.

We will see if he hires a good OC to replace Gattis, I sure as **** hope so.
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I think you are assuming the reason he was happy. I thought it was because the team did not give up. Both sides of the ball wanted the W. There were plenty of times one or the other could have given up but they didn’t

Maybe it was a little of both.
 
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