The McCloud situation is inexcusable

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Yes, I know the defense was the far less bad unit against GT than the offense and kicking, BUT...The defense is not where it needs to be either. But this Mcloud/LB **** is inexcusable

A. You address it with him before the season, you have to see it coming in today's college football landscape with ridiculous transfer/redshirt freedom...So you play him vs. UF AND not again, saving him for 3 more games. If someone gets hurt game two or 3, Mcloud is a starter or plays 25 -40 snaps a game depending on opponent for the rest of his career instead of 8. If it happens late you have him for 3 games!!

B. You tell him no when he asks midseason because you are too thin...If the kid isn't cool with it then you say thanks for your services, enjoy the portal...Because last I checked you are paying his tuition. Because what the kid is going to do is transfer anyways if he gets beat out ext spring, which there's a chance because Mcloud does some thing well others not so well. So basically he is not only wanting to start next year, but there is no lock he does it for you.

C. But if you do it at beginning of the season, you could have had him in there yesterday when Pickney went out. If Pickney goes out with a 21-0 lead obviously you don't need to play him and address following week.

D. And if you f**k all that up, then tough *** get in the game Zach we are fighting for our lies vs. GT? Oh you don't want to?? Bye bye kid.

And don't forget you told Octavious Brothers and others no in January. So it's your own LB recruiting that has you part of the way in this situation

And I'm still wondering how this Ragone kid (who may or may not be a viable 2nd or 3rd stringer at UM right now, 3rd may be tops, he looks small and slow) is a better option than Finley (had one of his worst games), Frierson, or moving K. Smith or Carter into the box. This is a f**king joke.

Last I checked this season means something even NOW...we need wins right now that we aren't aren't playing to win the ACC, but before this GT loss we were still live for the division for christ sake...and we are paper thin, you going to run this Ragone out there?

This and playing for FG when you can't kick is why I can't be optimistic with Diaz and now Enos. I'm willing to let upset losses slide in year 1, especially when some of them are kinda unlucky...But it can't keep happening and when I see incompetence like this^ it's unforgivable

3 games in and you are PAPER THIN at LB(And apparently Joyner doesn't heal fast and you know this???) and you just say "sure Zach redshirt" ? Should have been addressed start of season.
 
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I was a Mcloud fan off high school tape...I don't blame him for wanting to start here or somewhere next season...I don't even consider his career a bust like many of you do, sometimes you just turn out to be ok instead of good, and I believe he has had his moments

BUT NO ZACH you don't get to leave us bone thin and not be able to force a horrible offense into punting instead of holding the ball the 2h just because you are the 3rd to 5th best LB on this team. (and it's more diaz than Mcloud ******** this up, Mcloud just giving himself options)
 
Where the f**k is Frierson...He had his moments early on.

Also if after 4 years here...If Brooks isn't ready, if Carter can't be moved to the box...If Romeon Finley can't understand some WILLl concepts if you want the will on the field instead of striker, WTF are you doing in practice all week?

These aren't advance roster management concepts. Simply asking them to be prepared right?
 
You have to blame the Backer coaches also. Brooks should have both positions down. Especially since he’s the only backup. Baker and Patke, this is on you.
 
You have to blame the Backer coaches also. Brooks should have both positions down. Especially since he’s the only backup. Baker and Patke, this is on you.

yup, and if Mike is the only option for Brooks at this point...you move Shaq to will. Or you move Finley to Will...Or you take Frierson out of the f**kin doghouse...Or you slide Carter down...Or you prepare uber physical K.Smith to be an emergency will.

Ragone is small and quite frankly looks slow. Looks like J.Murphy
 
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Where are Joyner, Jennings, and Steed?!?!

Latter 2 still injured, Joyner was reportedly back by early october, guess he's injured too

But if that is to save a redshirt and Joyner really can go, then that is inexcusable too.

How many snaps did Frierson see on Saturday? Anyone have a link to a snap count?
 
Exactly you could have put Finley/carter there for that game and had frierson at striker. Moved shaq there and let brooks play mlb. Any option would have been better than we did Saturday

We did it agains VA too...Late 3rd in our own side of the field...Ragone is out there
 
This would seem more understandable if Ragone was some tackling machine. But he's what you'd expect him to be: in the right position most of the time but unable to consistently make plays because he isn't athletic enough.
 
This isn’t on mccloud, they have fvcked with his career last year by not playing much and early on this season barely playing snaps in 3 games he did play. I would Redshirt too regardless. It’s up to the coaches to find a solution not for mccloud to waste his last year of eligibility

Brock, I'm somewhere in between...That's not ******* with someone's career! And I understand it's tougher than ever to manage depth with today's transfer freedom. But this should have been handled early in the season. If this was game 11 ok...But this early in the season, McCloud should have been out there.

But even if he isn't ok...I'll give in to you. The other options. This reeks of Diaz trying to reward Rudy for practicing hard and giving himself built in depth excuses. I can't believe all the other 4-5 options I listed ARE ALL BAD PRACTICE PLAYERS.
 
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Brock, I'm somewhere in between...That's not ******* with someone's career! And I understand it's tougher than ever to manage depth with today's transfer freedom. But this should have been handled early in the season. If this was game 11 ok...But this early in the season, McCloud should have been out there.

But even if he isn't ok...I'll give in to you. The other options. This reeks of Diaz trying to reward Rudy for practicing hard and giving himself built in depth excuses. I can't believe all the other 4-5 options I listed ARE ALL BAD PRACTICE PLAYERS.
Just look at it, they saw jimmy Murphy Have success(he’s been great in what he’s been asked to do) but then they get complacent in thinking walkons are the solution elsewhere over scholarship players because of how hard they have seen them work such as Michael parrot over realus George or now ragone over other solutions at wlb. That’s what can’t happen period as it doesn’t work like that
 
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Just look at it, they saw jimmy Murphy Have success(he’s been great in what he’s been asked to do) but then they get complacent in thinking walkons are the solution elsewhere over scholarship players because of how hard they seem them work such as Michael parrot over realus George or now ragone over other solutions at wlb. That’s what can’t happen period as it doesn’t work like that

Yes Murphy is a gunner a 4th string lb and emergency safety...He's not any good at the last 2.
 
Don't see a problem redshirting McCloud. Some might disagree, but suspect Ragone is seeing time because coaches believe he's the best option right now. The notion that Brooks is only trained/capable of playing the mike might just be coach speak.
 
Yes, I know the defense was the far less bad unit against GT than the offense and kicking, BUT...The defense is not where it needs to be either. But this Mcloud/LB **** is inexcusable

A. You address it with him before the season, you have to see it coming in today's college football landscape with ridiculous transfer/redshirt freedom...So you play him vs. UF AND not again, saving him for 3 more games. If someone gets hurt game two or 3, Mcloud is a starter or plays 25 -40 snaps a game depending on opponent for the rest of his career instead of 8. If it happens late you have him for 3 games!!

B. You tell him no when he asks midseason because you are too thin...If the kid isn't cool with it then you say thanks for your services, enjoy the portal...Because last I checked you are paying his tuition. Because what the kid is going to do is transfer anyways if he gets beat out ext spring, which there's a chance because Mcloud does some thing well others not so well. So basically he is not only wanting to start next year, but there is no lock he does it for you.

C. But if you do it at beginning of the season, you could have had him in there yesterday when Pickney went out. If Pickney goes out with a 21-0 lead obviously you don't need to play him and address following week.

D. And if you f**k all that up, then tough *** get in the game Zach we are fighting for our lies vs. GT? Oh you don't want to?? Bye bye kid.

And don't forget you told Octavious Brothers and others no in January. So it's your own LB recruiting that has you part of the way in this situation

And I'm still wondering how this Ragone kid (who may or may not be a viable 2nd or 3rd stringer at UM right now, 3rd may be tops, he looks small and slow) is a better option than Finley (had one of his worst games), Frierson, or moving K. Smith or Carter into the box. This is a f**king joke.

Last I checked this season means something even NOW...we need wins right now that we aren't aren't playing to win the ACC, but before this GT loss we were still live for the division for christ sake...and we are paper thin, you going to run this Ragone out there?

This and playing for FG when you can't kick is why I can't be optimistic with Diaz and now Enos. I'm willing to let upset losses slide in year 1, especially when some of them are kinda unlucky...But it can't keep happening and when I see incompetence like this^ it's unforgivable

3 games in and you are PAPER THIN at LB(And apparently Joyner doesn't heal fast and you know this???) and you just say "sure Zach redshirt" ? Should have been addressed start of season.
this is what you get when your guy is learning on the fly lol
 
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