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The Mark Stoops thread

filmcane said:
The more I read other posters write about Mark and looked a little close at what he's done at Kentucky, the more he moves up my rankings. He checks off so many boxes:
  • His teams are disciplined
  • His teams are tough
  • He faces the best competition in the best conference in football and holds his own
  • Although for some, this would actually be a negative, but I like it that he not only coached for us and did a great job, but also he was with us during our last glory years.
  • If this matters at all, he comes from the most famous coaching family in college football (three of them were/are HC's at D1 schools).
I still prefer Mario and Lane, but upon further reflection, he very well might be the answer. Especially if we whiff on the first two.
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Not if, when.
 
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I’d gamble on Napier before stoops. He can recruit. Been with Clemson and bama as an assistant. And he’s been consistently good.

When it comes to the P5 from G5 transition you have to be careful with the lightning in a bottle year or two. Willie caught it with flowers. Saved his ***. Frost with Milton and a team with generally more talent then their schedule. And a few other examples.

Fickell Clark and Napier don’t scare me because they make their living on toughness and in the case of Clark and fickell solid defense. And they run solid programs. Fickell should be call #3 after Mario and lane imo
 
aelmiami said:
Stoops is a good fourth or fifth option. He may not clean up in recruiting but top 15-20 should be expected with him at the helm.

He’s shown sustainable success at UK but I do worry that it’s a bit of fool’s gold because the rest of SEC East has been trash at different points in his tenure, except UGA.

You need someone who’s gonna go toe to toe with Mack rn. He’s recruiting like a monster and I’m two or three years 9-3 probably won’t win the Coastal.
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I agree with your assessment but if we get to a 4th or 5th option this program is officially dead because it means that a couple of mil per year actually was an issue at least once with your more preferred choices.
 
Go Canes!! said:
No I don’t think a 5 win team from last year is a 10 win team in the ACC. They played four ranked SEC teams last season and scored a combined 29 points in those games. They lost to Bama 63-3.

He’s had plenty more like that team. Just cause you’re in the sec doesn’t make your team better.

Calm down man.
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It’s Kentucky

They’ve had 3 10 win seasons in their entire history
 
JayCane20 said:
I loved Tom Herman. Still think he would be a very good OC under someone like Mario.

He just didn't turn Texas around as fast as they wanted him to. Hard to compete with Oklahoma and Texas A&M recruiting and similar to Miami - everyone is there recruiting the guys you want. They haven't been relevant in over a decade. Too many whiffs recruiting the trenches and at LB. Didn't really have a good enough DC.

A lot of his own doing. Typical G5 to premier level of CFB job failure that happens every single time it seems. Happened to everyone except Brian Kelly. Herman probably learns from mistakes and rebounds and kills it at his next stop. It takes getting fired to look in the mirror and figure it out.
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Shoot even Brian Kelly was on the hot seat early on in his tenure at ND if memory serves me right
 
filmcane said:
The more I read other posters write about Mark and looked a little close at what he's done at Kentucky, the more he moves up my rankings. He checks off so many boxes:
  • His teams are disciplined
  • His teams are tough
  • He faces the best competition in the best conference in football and holds his own
  • Although for some, this would actually be a negative, but I like it that he not only coached for us and did a great job, but also he was with us during our last glory years.
  • If this matters at all, he comes from the most famous coaching family in college football (three of them were/are HC's at D1 schools).
I still prefer Mario and Lane, but upon further reflection, he very well might be the answer. Especially if we whiff on the first two.
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Right now, with Mario AND Lane being mentioned in the National Playoff, I would put Stoops on the list. Unfortunately, UK has deep pockets too, and they would up his contract at first sign of an offer.
 
There's a guy right up the road that won a national championship, been to another and has worked closely with our current OC.

This is exactly the type of thing Miami will do.
 
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Mark Stoops would be a very good hire. Some of do not realize the challenges he faces at Kentucky.

1. Basketball is king there and always will be.
2. Recruiting base in Kentucky is just not there.

His ability to develop and get players to buy in is second to none. A couple of years ago, Kentucky lost their top 2 QBs before the season so they moved a WR (Lynne Bowden) to QB and they won 10 games.
 
Tad Footeball said:
I agree with your assessment but if we get to a 4th or 5th option this program is officially dead because it means that a couple of mil per year actually was an issue at least once with your more preferred choices.
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I think we’d still have to pay for Stoops. Personally he’s my fourth option. I wonder if whoever makes the hire where they’d rank him. I’m a big fan of Kiffin. I’d also prefer Napier over him based on youth, recruiting and being from the Dabo/Saban tree. Some may view Kiffin as a flight risk and Napier as too green for P5 Football. Mario is my obvious number 1.

If we got a new committed AD and Stoops I’d say it’s a good hire. Not necessarily a great one but he’d coach a good team. Just need big money for a good staff.
 
IF the Canes EVER decide to replace Manny, hopefully they'll look at ALL of the potential candidates and select the best one

Not just someone with ties to Miami

Our greatest coaches had no previous ties...so why the fascination with that now?
 
MainLineCane said:
IF the Canes EVER decide to replace Manny, hopefully they'll look at ALL of the potential candidates and select the best one

Not just someone with ties to Miami
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Totally agree. But, they shouldn't discount someone with Miami ties either because of an overreaction to a bad history with former UM people failing in coaching poitions.
 
Gransapo said:
Good news: Mark Stoops' buyout is only $1,650,000.00.

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Bad news: He makes more in just base salary at Kentucky than Manuela makes here.

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Stoops has it made at Kentucky, he would be dumb to leave. I believe if he makes a bowl game he gets a year added onto his contract. Plus Kentucky fans tune out when basketball season starts so he has no real pressure to win.
 
TallyCane said:
Stoops has it made at Kentucky, he would be dumb to leave. I believe if he makes a bowl game he gets a year added onto his contract. Plus Kentucky fans tune out when basketball season starts so he has no real pressure to win.
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Boggles my mind people still care about college basketball regardless of sport. They already ruined it
 
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Too risky to try a guy with mediocre performance while assuming it’s the programs potential.

We want someone at least on Mullens level and he had more success at MSU in a more difficult division.
 
Feels like there’s a ton of quality candidates to choose from this time, stoops would be like 4th or 5th option for me but another guy I wouldn’t throw the remote thru the Tv if he were hired..hire a quality AD and get it done
 
Tad Footeball said:
I agree with your assessment but if we get to a 4th or 5th option this program is officially dead because it means that a couple of mil per year actually was an issue at least once with your more preferred choices.
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Or, Blake James remains AD and the better options said 'No'. The school was willing to pay Richt $4.5-5M.
 
NE Canes said:
There's a guy right up the road that won a national championship, been to another and has worked closely with our current OC.

This is exactly the type of thing Miami will do.
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who is this? Surely not Mulzahn. Not sure when he would have won that title
 
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