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The Issue Behind It All

ThomasG954 said:
...is the lack of money we’re willing to shell out for our coaching staff. If you don’t look beyond Richt’s salary, you’d say we compensate our staff fairly well. But when you delve further into it, they can only pay him that $4 million by being cheap in other areas.

Thomas Brown has the OC title because it gives him additional compensation, because he’s a plus coach and recruiter. But Richt calls the plays.

Jon Richt was brought on not only because he’s CMR’s son, but because he’s an ultra cheap option as QB coach.

Rumph had never coached in college and while actually proving to be a solid CB coach, a very green coach will not make much money, relatively speaking.

Hartley is TE and ST coach. We pay him 1 salary to teach two position groups.

****, Diaz probably took a hometown discount because being HC is his dream job.

Yes Richt makes good money. But that’s because he’s HC, QB coach, and OC. Look beyond that, and you can see how they made up for his salary with cheaper options behind him.

The point is this: until we can pay the right amount of money for coordinators and position coaches, we won’t see the changes we want.
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I don't think that is happening. Richt has always stated that Blake James has given him everything he asked for. I assume that means comparable salaries to staff at other big time programs. I think it is actually the reverse. We are over paying for people who don't have the experience or expertise level to compete with other staff. JMO.
 
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Hey, those Herbie CornSUCKER minions are paying their BELOVED home boy " 5 million per year, " to finish 2-10 this season and not much better the next two seasons.:zczkqmritjdsoaq.jpg:
 
DemCanesByke said:
We outbid teams for stacy searles. We just spending da money in da wrong places. Our o line wasnt blowing savannah state off the ball. Enough said
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Exactly. Money is not an issue. His son, searles, patke, and Hartley (ST) are weak links in some way whether it be on field or recruiting. Patke should’ve never been the 10th coach either, that should’ve gone to a real ST coordinator or OC. Money isn’t a problem, it’s how it’s allocated with these green *** coaches.
 
Honestly does anyone here actually think manny can be a head coach? Let alone head coach at miami? His defense is playing lights out but lets be real. Now if he wanted to be HC and not get paid like one and we hire a beast OC then were talking.

Opinions?
 
305407cane said:
Honestly does anyone here actually think manny can be a head coach? Let alone head coach at miami? His defense is playing lights out but lets be real. Now if he wanted to be HC and not get paid like one and we hire a beast OC then were talking.

Opinions?
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I don't know if manny can be a head coach yet, but he has taken the criticisms thrown his way and adapted which is always promising. This is something Richt has not shown the ability to do in his 15+ years as a head coach including his tenure here.
 
King Slayer said:
Well Saban once in awhile loses to people below him but it blows your mind that we lose to Virginia.
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Saban's got 5 national titles at Bama (6 total) to his credit. There's clearly an issue here. At Bama, you never see a consistent weakness like you do with Richt.
 
Lokest said:
I don't know if manny can be a head coach yet, but he has taken the criticisms thrown his way and adapted which is always promising. This is something Richt has not shown the ability to do in his 15+ years as a head coach including his tenure here.
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Thats what i love about manny. We talked so much **** about him and look what happens. He creates the striker position and our 3rd down woes are fixed. Why can't richt change his ways. Saban and meyer can afford to keep the status quo cause they have multiple titles. Richt does not
 
we shouldnt be losing against UVA. Thats' al golden territory.
if money was an inssue, they could have hire butch for minimum wage.
thats how bad he wanted to win a NC here.
 
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TemplarCane said:
That’s a great list of HC salaries. Thanks.

A full time QB coach wasn’t hired because Richt coaches QB, with his son. More staffing decision and nepotism than fiscal limitation. Brown, Dugans, and Searles are not cheap hires. Searles is stealing money IMO. Hartley is probably the lowest paid.

No special teams coordinator? Staffing choice by the HC. Bama doesn’t have a full time special teams coach either. Bama TE/ST Coach makes $270K.

https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2018/4...ligowski-golding-gattis-scott-banks-enos-tide

Manny is a highly paid DC. Is he in the $1M+ club? Maybe not. I’d be surprised if he wasn’t close. What I do not like is Manny’s staff. Banda and Patke have past ties to Diaz. More loyalty. Yes men. Rumph was hired because of his alleged recruiting connections. But the defense is playing g wel, so....
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Yeah, that's the thing. If our defense was ranked in the 70's like the offense, than we'd all be blasting Manny for having Banda and Patke on the staff.

But since we have a legit top 5 defense, it slides because the defense is operating efficiently so Manny can get away with those personnel decisions.

I can't believe we have people standing hard in the paint on coaching salaries and staff structure (partial reason) as to why we lost last night.

Searels is a below average o-line coach and Richt Jr. has no business as a QB coach. Richt's also stuck in his 80/90's offensive playbook with zero creativity.

If Richt Jr's making $250k per year, I guarantee you there's a more qualified coach willing to take that salary in a cold minute.
 
mackjones said:
Lord Saban is WILLING to adapt and change with the times.
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I've seen him do it multiple times at Bama. When he complained about offenses going more up-tempo which negated his advantage on defense, his entire structure adjusted to it. That's what a real head coach does - adapt.
 
orange&green84 said:
Yeah, that's the thing. If our defense was ranked in the 70's like the offense, than we'd all be blasting Manny for having Banda and Patke on the staff.

But since we have a legit top 5 defense, it slides because the defense is operating efficiently so Manny can get away with those personnel decisions.

I can't believe we have people standing hard in the paint on coaching salaries and staff structure (partial reason) as to why we lost last night.

Searels is a below average o-line coach and Richt Jr. has no business as a QB coach. Richt's also stuck in his 80/90's offensive playbook with zero creativity.

If Richt Jr's making $250k per year, I guarantee you there's a more qualified coach willing to take that salary in a cold minute.
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Searles is stealing money. He’s enjoyed success at LSU (Saban), UGA (Richt), and Texas (Brown) but had access to top talent. Has he shown the ability to coach up players? I’ll agree the overall talent on the OL is below-average, but do we see great technique? Donaldson should be a monster and I see him pushed back by average DL. I doubt Navaghn is physically weak.

Richt Jr is a glorified GA. He’s no more qualified to coach QBs than you or I. The only ways he leaves is if Richt retires, or by some miracle he’s hired away for a better job. Maybe we’ll get lucky and he wants to step away from his father’s shadow and make a career on his own.

Banda, Patke, Rumph, and Simpson are coaching a top defense right now. Hard to argue. Maybe Diaz hired ‘yes men’ but so does every other coach. The difference is if they allowed to contribute their own ideas.

And BTW, Alabama has a new Co-DC/Inside LBs Coach this season. Saban poached him from......University of Texas San Antonio. Saban’s new DB coach is from...Texas Tech. There’s a bit of hyperbole every assistant at Bama is the highest-paid-best-on-the-market. No doubt they're good coaches, otherwise Saban wouldn’t have hired them. He hired bright, young football minds.
 
orange&green84 said:
Saban's got 5 national titles at Bama (6 total) to his credit. There's clearly an issue here. At Bama, you never see a consistent weakness like you do with Richt.
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I mean, the fact you had to even point this out, lol

BTW, when the rare loss happens, does Bama/Saban ever drop games to bad teams?
 
orange&green84 said:
Saban's got 5 national titles at Bama (6 total) to his credit. There's clearly an issue here. At Bama, you never see a consistent weakness like you do with Richt.
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Fine, Muschamp, Mullen, Fisher, Herman, etc lose to underdogs and they are paid more than Richt. Happy now?

My point was that paying tier 3/4 money gets you tier 3/4 results.
 
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King Slayer said:
Fine, Muschamp, Mullen, Fisher, Herman, etc lose to underdogs and they are paid more than Richt. Happy now?

My point was that paying tier 3/4 money gets you tier 3/4 results.
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Ok, so what's Bronco Mendenhall making at UVA? Also, based on the context of your response, you were expecting us to go out and get Nick Saban or Urban Meyer.
 
Not the money **** again. We don’t suck because we can’t afford an OC; we suck because we have the wrong OC.

Rick has never been refused any money request he’s made since he got here. If he wanted to hire an OC and pay him the sameness thing he’s paying Diaz they’d give it to him without question.
 
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