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Cribby said:
We aren’t paying crappy money any more , that was part of Richt taking the job. He wanted to pay assistants competitive salaries.

So stop with the bs.
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So explain to me why an experienced QB coach wasn’t hired, we had to give our RB coach two job titles just to pay him for one, our TE coach is also our ST coach, our d-line coach and CB coaches are in their first ever college position.

**not knocks on Simpson or Rumph, their teaching abilities probably deserve more than what they’re getting.**
 
Im tired of this money excuse. UCF staff is more innovative than ours. We beat with only talent. Look what lane kiffin said on lebatard. We dont want to lose to a mark richt coached team.
 
DemCanesByke said:
Im tired of this money excuse. UCF staff is more innovative than ours. We beat with only talent. Look what lane kiffin said on lebatard. We dont want to lose to a mark richt coached team.
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UCF is also a state school with public funding.
 
ThomasG954 said:
So explain to me why an experienced QB coach wasn’t hired, we had to give our RB coach two job titles just to pay him for one, our TE coach is also our ST coach, our d-line coach and CB coaches are in their first ever college position.

**not knocks on Simpson or Rumph, their teaching abilities probably deserve more than what they’re getting.**
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Dude it’s not about money , it’s nepotism, he wanted to work with his son and call plays.

Hartley turned down Uga, Dugans turned down FSU. Diaz and Brown make good money. It’s a legit top 20 paid staff , it’s just the offense staff is green and the oc sucks.
 
Cribby said:
Dude it’s not about money , it’s nepotism, he wanted to work with his son and call plays.

Hartley turned down Uga, Dugans turned down FSU. Diaz and Brown make good money. It’s a legit top 20 paid staff , it’s just the offense staff is green and the oc sucks.
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I usually see your posts and agree, but look at what I’m saying. CJR was part nepotism, part budget-related. Hartley didn’t turn down UGA for a pay raise, he did it for a more prominent role (2 coaching roles). Dugans I agree, probably does make good money. Brown makes the money he does for the aforementioned reason, he was given OC title for additional compensation. Just like what we did with Kool.
 
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Cribby said:
We aren’t paying crappy money any more , that was part of Richt taking the job. He wanted to pay assistants competitive salaries.

So stop with the bs.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Miami give James Coley well over a 500k raise to come here?
 
ThomasG954 said:
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

This shows Richt’s salary. But it doesn’t take a payroll list to know they hired inexperienced staff to offset the most money we’ve ever paid to a HC. If we had the money to hire a real QB coach and special teams coordinator, who knows how different things would be? This team is stacked with talent, but its potential is clearly not being maximized.
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That’s a great list of HC salaries. Thanks.

A full time QB coach wasn’t hired because Richt coaches QB, with his son. More staffing decision and nepotism than fiscal limitation. Brown, Dugans, and Searles are not cheap hires. Searles is stealing money IMO. Hartley is probably the lowest paid.

No special teams coordinator? Staffing choice by the HC. Bama doesn’t have a full time special teams coach either. Bama TE/ST Coach makes $270K.

https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2018/4...ligowski-golding-gattis-scott-banks-enos-tide

Manny is a highly paid DC. Is he in the $1M+ club? Maybe not. I’d be surprised if he wasn’t close. What I do not like is Manny’s staff. Banda and Patke have past ties to Diaz. More loyalty. Yes men. Rumph was hired because of his alleged recruiting connections. But the defense is playing g wel, so....
 
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ThomasG954 said:
...is the lack of money we’re willing to shell out for our coaching staff. If you don’t look beyond Richt’s salary, you’d say we compensate our staff fairly well. But when you delve further into it, they can only pay him that $4 million by being cheap in other areas.

Thomas Brown has the OC title because it gives him additional compensation, because he’s a plus coach and recruiter. But Richt calls the plays.

Jon Richt was brought on not only because he’s CMR’s son, but because he’s an ultra cheap option as QB coach.

Rumph had never coached in college and while actually proving to be a solid CB coach, a very green coach will not make much money, relatively speaking.

Hartley is TE and ST coach. We pay him 1 salary to teach two position groups.

****, Diaz probably took a hometown discount because being HC is his dream job.

Yes Richt makes good money. But that’s because he’s HC, QB coach, and OC. Look beyond that, and you can see how they made up for his salary with cheaper options behind him.

The point is this: until we can pay the right amount of money for coordinators and position coaches, we won’t see the changes we want.
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Amen!!
 
ThomasG954 said:
...is the lack of money we’re willing to shell out for our coaching staff. If you don’t look beyond Richt’s salary, you’d say we compensate our staff fairly well. But when you delve further into it, they can only pay him that $4 million by being cheap in other areas.

Thomas Brown has the OC title because it gives him additional compensation, because he’s a plus coach and recruiter. But Richt calls the plays.

Jon Richt was brought on not only because he’s CMR’s son, but because he’s an ultra cheap option as QB coach.

Rumph had never coached in college and while actually proving to be a solid CB coach, a very green coach will not make much money, relatively speaking.

Hartley is TE and ST coach. We pay him 1 salary to teach two position groups.

****, Diaz probably took a hometown discount because being HC is his dream job.

Yes Richt makes good money. But that’s because he’s HC, QB coach, and OC. Look beyond that, and you can see how they made up for his salary with cheaper options behind him.

The point is this: until we can pay the right amount of money for coordinators and position coaches, we won’t see the changes we want.
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I was just about to post something similar.
Mark Helfrich came during the off season last year or the year before I think.
CMR was asked why Helfrich was on campus and said that during the offfseasons they like to “consult” with other coaches to see what they could do better. That was total bs!!!
If he did consult then he didn’t listen to anything that dude said cause we’ve been running the same offense for 3 years!!!
CMR is being stubborn and I don’t know why.
My guess is Helfrich came here to interview and the school isn’t budging on paying any more salaries or at least the type of cash to lure in a top OC.
Cmr is too stubborn to admit he can’t call plays or he’s playing chicken with the school over the salary to hire a top OC.
I’m sure we gave kool a raise before he dipped and we also probably gave Dugans one.
The school/cmr/James and whoever else need to realize that they just spent almost 40million dollars to upgrade the program and it’s going to get filled with a bunch of 3 star recruits and 8-4 seasons unless they hire a top OC. You can’t just act like your baller in fbs. You gotta pay.
I Don’t think Diaz is allergic to money and is aware of that Aranda extension. If other teams smell weakness they’re coming for Diaz if they haven’t already. Diaz sure as **** cant be too pleased seeing his boys ball out there and leave everything on the field only to lose.
 
King Slayer said:
Well Saban once in awhile loses to people below him but it blows your mind that we lose to Virginia.
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Im not too mad about losing. The way we lost made us look like garbage though. Our whhole offensive philosphy doesnt seem to be working.
 
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ThomasG954 said:
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

This shows Richt’s salary. But it doesn’t take a payroll list to know they hired inexperienced staff to offset the most money we’ve ever paid to a HC. If we had the money to hire a real QB coach and special teams coordinator, who knows how different things would be? This team is stacked with talent, but its potential is clearly not being maximized.
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What do you say now Templar?
 
ThomasG954 said:
So explain to me why an experienced QB coach wasn’t hired, we had to give our RB coach two job titles just to pay him for one, our TE coach is also our ST coach, our d-line coach and CB coaches are in their first ever college position.

**not knocks on Simpson or Rumph, their teaching abilities probably deserve more than what they’re getting.**
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Because he's that poor of a CEO.
 
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