The future of college football

[aelmiami]

Question is what is the driver. Is it maximizing Utah wins or maximizing earnings?

I think they(Utah) are expecting them to go hand in hand. I just struggle to see that even happening. Utah was 39th TV viewership this year. Yet they finished ranked what 15th? Is the equity firm going to accept losing money for 3-4 years to build a true championship contending roster?

Like im a Braves fan. Liberty Media is more than content fielding a decent ballclub and making money on the margins from all the amenities they own in and around Truist Park, then spending to compete with the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies, etc.

So that makes me wonder what will this firm do? Just stand pat waiting for Utah’s breakthrough? I doubt it.

 

[CaneThang2020]

It really should be one big league with regional divisions. Same as every other sport. There will be enough in the CBA (academic requirements, etc) to keep it college football.

The players are already pros. Just make it organized.

Bingo

 

[GojiraCane]

I don't see how they maximize earnings without maximizing wins.

What are we missing?

There’s a tension. The team can’t bottom out, but the main goal is potentially going to be revenue. So Utah might get advertisements all over the stadium. Sponsorships of things like the goalposts. Corporate ads all over the field. Rapid ticket price increases, at least for better seats. An example is WWE…as an independent company their front row seats for WrestleMania were roughly $3K. They still were in 2021. Now they’re $37K.

 

[Brains]

I hate collective bargaining

 

[TwentySix]

Yeah no thanks to being in a conference with UF, FSU, UGA, and GT LOL--do you want to lose two or three division games every year?

The problem with this division of teams is that some conferences are really weak, while others are way too strong. It should be more like a Florida conference of Miami, UF, FSU, USF, UCF, FAU, and FIU.

A) …..Sure? I’d sign up to be in the B1G or the SEC right now and play more difficult games. The point is more about the small divisions than who is in them though.

B) USF, FAU, and FIU aren’t even part of the original proposal.

Regardless, the point is these massive conferences with unequal tv deals, unbalanced schedules, a lack of objective criteria, etc. is worse than if the sport goes to more of a pro model, which it eventually will anyway.

 

[doctor dingleberry]

Nobody wanted to hear it because “change bad” but that super league that got floated out would’ve been perfect. I mean the conferences (SEC and B1G) will never let it happen but this would be great.

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Nobody wanted to hear it because “change bad” but that super league that got floated out would’ve been perfect. I mean the conferences (SEC and B1G) will never let it happen but this would be great.

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Pretty cool. Gah **** we’d be the new SEC tho

 

[caneforlifeforreal]

It will be interesting to see how those leagues handle the bottom half of teams. Will they keep the Perdue, Minnesota, and Arkansas type school or will they be more interested in Miami etc? Will he TV executives demand teams that get an audience? Not many people are watching a Minnesota vs Perdue game outside that regional area.

This is the one thing that saves us from being left behind.

VIEWERSHIP

Love or hate us, people watch. We draw eyeballs and as of now we're putting quality on the screen. I think we will always draw eyeballs. Even more so that the train is rolling. Honestly thank god for Mario. We could've been left behind. Documentaries on what happened to the University of Miami. Now sequels for Corben awaits.

Viewership saves us. We are safe.

Bc TV is king and this ND bs made people dig into numbers. Without our own actual network affiliate deal between one of ABC, CBS,NBC, we are pretty close to ND in viewership. What if it were actually us with the NBC deal. Maybe those numbers are flipped. Thats without 100 years of self proclaimed bs excellence. Its different now. And viewership will save us. Its the SEC BIG ND AND US.

We had a half million more watching us vs Pitt than FSU VS FLORIDA. Regardless of down year for those *****, that says alot.

/maybe the common opponent of viewership being alot closer really did flip to head to head tiebreaker

Things are changing for us. For the good

 

[Dwinstitles]

They still going to cheat regardless, look at Leonard from the clips. They were giving him side paper, who knows how much of this **** goes on.

 

[sdaly12]

Miami has to get into the P2. The future of the program is on the line if we get left behind. If push comes to shove and the P2 decides to say ***** everyone else and form their own league, we’re completely ****ed.

think new super league, will be 70-80 teams, but to your point still nervous on our future

 

[MiamisMoperiestMopes]

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[Yoyo423]

I see zero blue bloods doing this. It’s going to be teams looking for some kind of influx into their NIL program. We can hate boosters all we want, but they literally write checks solely to make the team win for their ego.

A PE isn’t going to do that.

The Blue bloods will start doing it when the boosters are tired of just paying players to play for their team without winning a title and start saying "we want some financial returns on our investments".

 

[ajkreider]

I'm an old, so ... prone to mopery and nostalgia - but all this just makes me very sad.

It's the coaches and ADs I blame most- who couldn't resist the temptation of enriching themselves on the backs of kids. A coaching salary cap, some player walking-around money, and flooding the schools' general scholarship pools would have been easily good enough. Sure, Baga would still have done baga things, but we'd still have student athletes - just with nicer clothes.

We'll now have just another sports league, with teams tangentially attached to universities. The last athlete to be dropped for poor academic performance has gone the way of the Dodo.

All good things must pass, and I'm glad to have been there for the glory days. Money isn't the root of all evil, but it's certainly been the death of what college football was.

Maybe I start checking out DIII

 

[bacane]

This is pie in the sky thinking as long as Sankey is running CFB, I mean, the SEC. That guy won't do anything that will deter him from the SEC having some sort of significant advantage over the competition. I would be certain everyone else would come to the table EXCEPT that scumbag,

Who is the one of the culprits behind this mess to begin with.

Exactly. SEC & the commish won’t voluntarily step down from throne.

 

[bacane]

I mean I get it. But like take Utah for example. This company invests $500M into it. Do you think they’ll be ok with 9-3, 10-2? Does Utah beating BYU matter to them? They’ll want a return on this investment. The minute they don’t, changes will be made.

I’m thinking more down the line. They are going to trim the margins. Cut fat, all in the name of maximizing profit. There’s a trade off getting in bed with them. That sugar daddy is nice until they come wanting their payment.

It’s simple logic. No guarantee of success. If other schools - wow, that’s a loose term - run out & find companies to invest $500m, some programs will be elite, others middle of the road & still others will end up bottom feeders.

 

[dudenate]

Since the advent & meteoric rise of portal and NIL, I'm surprised the players don't have a union yet.

 

[aelmiami]

It’s simple logic. No guarantee of success. If other schools - wow, that’s a loose term - run out & find companies to invest $500m, some programs will be elite, others middle of the road & still others will end up bottom feeders.

I get the logic. What I’m saying is, the PEs are going to want a return on their investment. If we just use Miami as an example, UHealth obviously pumps a bunch of funds into the school/athletics, then boosters, then the fans NIL collective. You throw the PE into that equation, yes the $500M is nice. But they will want that back plus some.

Where does the plus some come into the equation? Say you have a down year? UHealth isn’t going to come knocking saying hey where’s my money back? The PE will. I can maybe see the angle of, well if we take this investment and then stop taking money from UHealth, the school would stand to make more money. Let the athletic department handle the PE. But again, if they can’t foot that bill, someone will have to.

I guess this all depends on what the PEs require from the schools. These are just gifts expecting a name on a building. It’s a slippery slope that I just don’t see the profitable programs doing. But that’s just my opinion.

 

[Ryanmilli]

This is pie in the sky thinking as long as Sankey is running CFB, I mean, the SEC. That guy won't do anything that will deter him from the SEC having some sort of significant advantage over the competition. I would be certain everyone else would come to the table EXCEPT that scumbag,

Who is the one of the culprits behind this mess to begin with.

You may be underestimating the desire of guys like him to build empires and then control them.

 

[b caned]

Awesome.. now college uniforms are going the way of billboards.

God I wish somebody could make the dumb **** stop. Ruining the sport we all love.

 

[Cane44]

didn't read entire thread...... how does this outside investment pressure, affect decision making in athletics, AD's, hiring, and even FB coaching??? I see it as a major sh*t storm about to happen... you think donors and boosters are rough... wait til you're taking "suggestions" from billionaire investor(s) or corporations...

 

[bacane]

I get the logic. What I’m saying is, the PEs are going to want a return on their investment. If we just use Miami as an example, UHealth obviously pumps a bunch of funds into the school/athletics, then boosters, then the fans NIL collective. You throw the PE into that equation, yes the $500M is nice. But they will want that back plus some.

Where does the plus some come into the equation? Say you have a down year? UHealth isn’t going to come knocking saying hey where’s my money back? The PE will. I can maybe see the angle of, well if we take this investment and then stop taking money from UHealth, the school would stand to make more money. Let the athletic department handle the PE. But again, if they can’t foot that bill, someone will have to.

I guess this all depends on what the PEs require from the schools. These are just gifts expecting a name on a building. It’s a slippery slope that I just don’t see the profitable programs doing. But that’s just my opinion.

We’re saying the same thing. At the end of the day, not every team or PE is gonna be successful. Also struggle to see this being the future of college athletics.