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The Fair Pay to Play Act is a disaster

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Players are already getting paid. If the payments come to light, the only one punished significantly is the player. Nothing happens to boosters, and universities receive a slap on the wrist. At least with this law, the players will no longer be penalized for something that is the new norm.
 
mdpcane said:
doesnt matter if they major in underwater basketweaving. i do agree with you about learning a trade.
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If one chose basketweaving, then they didn't value the scholarship in the first place and it doesn't mean any thing any way.:noidea:

But I see your point, the scholarship has a value.
 
Dghustla said:
Said this weeks ago.
This will only widen the gap across the sport as now a booster can pay a high school player whatever is “fair” for an autograph.

the majority of players won’t get much of anything.

It further steers black athletes away from focusing on their education for a quick buck.
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Yep, only the uninformed dont see this. Miami football is completely done if this law becomes how it's going to be. We can't compete financially as it is, this opens the booster floodgates to unimagineable levels.

And sure, let players be compensated for the name/likeness/image. Have the NCAA buy those rights from players in exchange for salaries across the board. The NFL, NBA, MLB, etc all do this to some extent, it's why players can't be in uniform unless its an official league commercial.

Let players get compensated in a way that doesn't destroy the collegiate athletic system, and not just make it another minor league
 
DTP said:
People acting like Alabama and the $EC schools aren't already buying off every recruit they can get. They already have players collecting 6 figure deals. All this does is allow players who aren't getting paid directly by their school's booster club to make some money off their likeness. If anything this helps metro schools like Miami, USC/UCLA and Washington because a player has a lot more opportunity to sell his likeness in a big market than some po-dunk hillbilly town.
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They are buying for the fear of potentially getting caught keeps it discrete. If this takes off. It’s not a good look for the balance of the sport.

I’m just saying there has to be a better way.
 
TheRichtShow said:
Yep, only the uninformed dont see this. Miami football is completely done if this law becomes how it's going to be. We can't compete financially as it is, this opens the booster floodgates to unimagineable levels.

And sure, let players be compensated for the name/likeness/image. Have the NCAA buy those rights from players in exchange for salaries across the board. The NFL, NBA, MLB, etc all do this to some extent, it's why players can't be in uniform unless its an official league commercial.

Let players get compensated in a way that doesn't destroy the collegiate athletic system, and not just make it another minor league
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Basically this, we can’t even compete with 3rd teir schools like Ole Miss when it comes to that.
 
DTP said:
This has become a popular notion in recent years but it's simply not true. Trust me, I went to trade school, (after dropping out of university) and own a repair shop. If everyone stopped going to college and started going to trade schools, there'd just be a glut of trade school graduates who couldn't find jobs in their field. Just like college isn't for everyone, learning a trade isn't for everyone either. Not everyone can do the job just because they took a 9 month course at their local community college. I'd say close to half the people that graduated trade school with me I would not hire at my business.

As for people wasting their time and money in college, maybe the small portion that's majoring in a field that has no job prospects are but most people enrolled in a university aren't majoring in basket weaving or humanities. Every friend of mine that graduated with at least a bachelor's degree is making very good money in their respective field. The amount they make way more than compensates what they had to spend on an education. It's a 100% myth that every kid in college is graduating with a degree in "gender studies" or some other ridiculous field that most colleges don't even offer.
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You make good points, but a lot of people end up with jobs outside their major.

And today most jobs don't even pay enough to pay back the loans, thus the college repayment bubble.
 
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Any thoughts on how this new law in California might impact college athletes, the schools or the NCAA are merely theories at this point. Hard to even scale what kind of impact this will have, but one thing the California legislature and courts have done is led the country in rejecting the NCAA’s operating model first with the O’Bannon ruling and more recently with their Jenkins ruling, and now this. This law isn’t even going into effect until 2023 and it will be fascinating to watch what the NCAA may or may not do to counter this move. One thing is certain is that the NCAAs lobbying and posturing/threatening efforts were unsuccessful in preventing the law from being signed by the governor and that the state’s lawyers must feel good about the validity of the law as proposed.
 
cltcane94 said:
Any thoughts on how this new law in California might impact college athletes, the schools or the NCAA are merely theories at this point. Hard to even scale what kind of impact this will have, but one thing the California legislature and courts have done is led the country in rejecting the NCAA’s operating model first with the O’Bannon ruling and more recently with their Jenkins ruling, and now this. This law isn’t even going into effect until 2023 and it will be fascinating to watch what the NCAA may or may not do to counter this move. One thing is certain is that the NCAAs lobbying and posturing/threatening efforts were unsuccessful in preventing the law from being signed by the governor and that the state’s lawyers must feel good about the validity of the law as proposed.
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O'Bannon and Jenkins largely upheld the amateur model though.

I don't see anything in the law that would make it fail in the courts, but it's also just a state law. The NCAA obviously could just pull out of CA entirely. I think they'll threaten that but a middle ground is more likely, where, in exchange for scholarships and a yearly salary, players "sell" their name/image to their schools. That would allow players to be compensated, but keep it from being a booster free-for-all.

Then again the NCAA is dumb and poorly led so who knows
 
Miami can't compete with the big schools when it comes to booster money. The money kids would be able to make wouldn't have to come from boosters at all. If I'm a business owner in south Florida but don't care for UM football, I'm not spending a dollar on the program. However, if I can use their players to advertise my business, I'd be willing to spend the money because I'd be getting a return on my investment. Alabama kids are getting booster cash whether it's legal or not. It's not like they're holding back. At least now kids at Miami would get a chance to be compensated by local businesses. Right now, it's either Bama and cash or Miami and nothing. If they pass this new law, at least Miami would be able to offer a large metro area full of businesses that can significantly grow a player's personal brand.
 
DTP said:
Miami can't compete with the big schools when it comes to booster money. The money kids would be able to make wouldn't have to come from boosters at all. If I'm a business owner in south Florida but don't care for UM football, I'm not spending a dollar on the program. However, if I can use their players to advertise my business, I'd be willing to spend the money because I'd be getting a return on my investment. Alabama kids are getting booster cash whether it's legal or not. It's not like they're holding back. At least now kids at Miami would get a chance to be compensated by local businesses. Right now, it's either Bama and cash or Miami and nothing. If they pass this new law, at least Miami would be able to offer a large metro area full of businesses that can significantly grow a player's personal brand.
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A kid is not going to select Miami because of some off chance he gets an ad deal with some local business.

The kids are going to go to the same schools offering big money and if that money is legal no one has to hide it. It will be all be the same but legal.
 
Dghustla said:
Said this weeks ago.
This will only widen the gap across the sport as now a booster can pay a high school player whatever is “fair” for an autograph.

the majority of players won’t get much of anything.

It further steers black athletes away from focusing on their education for a quick buck.
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So what.. they’re not deciding between Yale and Harvard. In real life a black athlete having a degree from any school especially any D1 school will put u in position to be able to take care of yourself.

Fast money or slow money...both are accepted everywhere.
 
After looking at the law more I dont see how it complies with NCAA v Miller, and I think it is a pretty clear Commerce Clause violation.

The law essentially forces the NCAA to adopt the rules of CA for every state. And if more states pass laws that are similar but with different language, then the NCAA could argue there is no possible way for them to comply with conflicting rules. The NCAA won Miller, where Nevada tried to force the NCAA to comply with its law, so I think they'd have a pretty good case here.
 
mdpcane said:
what will idiots think of next ? colleges trading players ?
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Yeah and the transfer market is already becoming a joke. I know we benefited from it this time (mostly), but now you have all these kids who think they deserve to play right now and are constantly transferring around.

Side note: Professional sports teams have salary caps and you still have the same teams winning every year. (Patriots, Golden State, etc) Think about what you're asking for.
 
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calinative umstudent said:
we should all email Blake James and the BOT and tell their dumbasses to stand with the California schools and leave the NCAA if that is the route the NCAA ends up taking.

I'd be fine with it if it means finally paying players what they should be paid.
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The state of florida and south carolina are supposedly going to pass similar laws.
 
Miami’s market has a greater top than any Alabama, Clemson or other school in the top five. If you're a brand in Miami, you’re a national brand. Don’t believe for a minute, that a Tua image is worth more than a Quarterback at the []_[] if we’re winning. We’re like the Raiders... a brand that lives in infamy. Outside of USC “maybe” we’re the biggest national “brand” in college football. I know everyone’s concerned with fanbase, but ask anyone that’s not a fan of Ohio State anything about them, and you’ll get blank stares. Now ask that same person about the Miami Hurricanes and boom... they have feelings.
 
South Side Chi Cane said:
Can't Miami see some silver lining here ?? I mean being one of the cultural and entertainment meccas in the country, wouldn't he rather have his face and name married to something hip and sophisticated in Miami rather then have his face plastered all over Jo Don's car and bike emporium in Tuskkkaloosa ???
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No, because Jo Don has a check for $484,000 while the city of Miami will give him $50 and tell him he's lucky to have the chance to represent them. And $50 won't buy you lunch in Miami but it'll buy you a house in bama. And 2 cars, a horse, and a tractor. Also 2 more houses.
 
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