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SWFLHurricane said:
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SWFLHurricane said:
@Brooklyndee ....Dee, imagine if Butch had not only the financial backing, but the overall support from the administration back in the day, that Mario has now??...it would've been outlandish.
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If that would've happened butch would've never left and in my eyes atleast the bamas and the ugas of the world would've never existed to the extent of what they became.
 
SWFLHurricane said:
And Butch was his Head of recruiting from 84-88. Butch not only is responsible for the 2001 team...but if people knew who he closed on for JJ during the 84-88 teams, they'd be stunned. JJ will tell you that himself.
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the job he did in luring Jimmie Jones(as he sat out his last year) by waiting on his sidewalk inside the car, is legendary

As for Jimmy, hes a vagabond by nature, but if there was one job I think he wanted to stay at for the long haul, was Miami
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
It's been mentioned a ton of times....UM offered him a decent Top 10-20 salary (1.3 million per year, average, while he was getting 900K average under the original 7-year deal), but with a huge buyout (in case he wanted to leave for the NFL) and a low payout (in case UM fired him).

Browns paid him about $4M per year, so about triple his UM offer.
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the interesting thing about the UM job is that there have been a few guys who have left for greener pastures, who will say years later, their best and most fun years were coaching the Hurricanes. But money, matters.

now, they are a serious program (Logan Roy voice) in terms of compensation
 
SWFLHurricane said:
If Butch (Hypothetically) stays after 2000 till, let's say around 2005-06...it wouldn't have been fair...his assistants Loved him. Shannon left but Vernon Hargreaves was even better. Recruiting wouldn't have skipped a beat from 01-06...not with Curtis, Soldinger, Pagano and Kehoe's recruiting. @Brooklyndee is the only one I can talk to on this board about those days without the Haters chiming in. He knows for a fact I'm keeping it real.
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he is the original Saban if he sticks around. The ball was rolling so good in terms of recruiting. Coach Sol told me ''you wouldn't believe the guys we have to turn away.''

What could, and should, have been
 
k9cane said:
it wasn't just that Butch left, it's that the admin replaced him with Coker.
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I've never been one to dabble in dillusion. We have to own our own role in the Coker debacle. We all knew the reasons we wanted Larry to take over. Yes a large part of it was we knew what we were and we knew we had a monster on our hands. But another very valid part of it was we all knew Coker was a push over and we'd have free reign to do whatever we wanted. The administration was just so willingly blind to anything sports related because they wanted no part in it beyond collecting money behind it, that they were willing to simply go with the majority.
 
k9cane said:
the job he did in luring Jimmie Jones(as he sat out his last year) by waiting on his sidewalk inside the car, is legendary

As for Jimmy, hes a vagabond by nature, but if there was one job I think he wanted to stay at for the long haul, was Miami
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I still wish when Richt was leaving we would've been able to close that out. I wonder how many people know how close we were to having JJ back as an ad. It didn't surprise me that he didn't take it just because of how much he enjoys fishing and the keys sunsets. But for him to even seriously consider shows you how much this school means to him.
 
Brooklyndee said:
I still wish when Richt was leaving we would've been able to close that out. I wonder how many people know how close we were to having JJ back as an ad. It didn't surprise me that he didn't take it just because of how much he enjoys fishing and the keys sunsets. But for him to even seriously consider shows you how much this school means to him.
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every book Ive read that Jimmy has authored, has always included at least a chapter or two on his time at UM. It truly is the one job that he loved
 
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Brooklyndee said:
I've never been one to dabble in dillusion. We have to own our own role in the Coker debacle. We all knew the reasons we wanted Larry to take over. Yes a large part of it was we knew what we were and we knew we had a monster on our hands. But another very valid part of it was we all knew Coker was a push over and we'd have free reign to do whatever we wanted. The administration was just so willingly blind to anything sports related because they wanted no part in it beyond collecting money behind it, that they were willing to simply go with the majority.
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I never liked the Coker hire(seriously, I knew what we were getting), this was a short-term solution where a long term plan was needed.

you know what Coker was? Remember the sequel to 'the Bad News Bears' ('Breaking Training) ,where they go to the Astrodome without a coach, and the guys get that old groundskeeper to act as the coach in front of the parents before they take off?

That was Coker. While guys like Ed Reed were Kelly Leak driving the van to Houston.

When I knew the program was cooked was when Soldinger ripped Ty Moss for being out of shape, and Coker admonished Soldinger for being honest. That's all you needed to know about the direction of the program at that time
 
k9cane said:
I never liked the Coker hire(seriously, I knew what we were getting), this was a short-term solution where a long term plan was needed.

you know what Coker was? Remember the sequel to 'the Bad News Bears' ('Breaking Training) ,where they go to the Astrodome without a coach, and the guys get that old groundskeeper to act as the coach in front of the parents before they take off?

That was Coker. While guys like Ed Reed were Kelly Leak driving the van to Houston.

When I knew the program was cooked was when Soldinger ripped Ty Moss for being out of shape, and Coker admonished Soldinger for being honest. That's all you needed to know about the direction of the program at that time
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I just had that conversation with sarge last off-season. Second I knew, unequivocally knew we were ****ed was when he fired sarge and art. But we all had plenty of inklings before that.
 
Brooklyndee said:
I just had that conversation with sarge last off-season. Second I knew, unequivocally knew we were ****ed was when he fired sarge and art. But we all had plenty of inklings before that.
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I vividly recall they got let go after the LSU blowout in the Peach Bowl. Coker was cooked at that time, and just bought himself a bit more time. I spoke to a few former players, they were ****ed that those two were released in the manner they were. It was a dark day at UM and the Hecht Center
 
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