The Beck throw....

[BRockCane98]

Not ripping this dude. I've seen him do solid breakdowns before but I don't think he realizes how far this throw is.

Far hash to sideline = 100 feet
47 yard line to goal line = 141 feet

Do the basic geometry and the distance from where Beck was standing to the front pylon is just under 173 feet or 57 2/3rds yards. For a throw that really needs to be a strike, can't rainbow it and leave time for DB's to adjust while the balls in the air, that's more club than Beck had in his bag especially post injury.

That's a throw that you need top shelf arm strength to make and make consistently. He's asking to much.

 

[Hufftwoseven]

It wasn’t an egregious distance, but it was also a throw that first round QB’s can make over the years. That among other reasons is why Beck will likely be a late day 2 pick or day 3 pick rather than a round 1 guy.

 

[genxcane]

No one said there would be math.

I don't disagree with your numbers but I would hope by that point in the season that everyone involved would know the limitations so that the play isn't called, or pass isn't thrown

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

Looking at it….pull it down and break the pocket. If the LB to that side comes up try to hit Toney behind him running across the field and get out of bounds or throw it away

 

[BRockCane98]

It wasn’t an egregious distance, but it was also a throw that first round QB’s can make over the years. That among other reasons is why Beck will likely be a late day 2 pick or day 3 pick rather than a round 1 guy.

Quite a few lower round QB's can make that throw but lack other skills. Joe Milton could make that throw in his sleep but had other issues (still think he's a freak talent). I just don't think people realize how far that throw is. It's **** near 60 yards and needs to be thrown on a rope.

 

[BRockCane98]

That's more club than Beck has in his bag.

 

[deezydinh]

pain

 

[Yoyo423]

he got picked off at the 15 or 20 yd line... if he throws it 10 more yards, even with air underneath it, at least he gives Marion a chance to come back to the ball and make a catch or at least draw a PI....

Marion had his guy beat..

 

[DerekDohrman]

that is a throw every single d1 QB can make.

i can go out to a football field right now and make that throw.

it had nothing to do with his lack of arm strength. he purposefully put the ball where he did (or just missed where he wanted it to go) based on the safety. he did not see that corner dropping at all

 

[hurricaneman]

I don't think the distance is an issue at all. It's the type of throw he chose to make.

He drove the ball flat, thinking because the defender was beat he could get it there ahead of him. But because it's flat the defender can recover, in relation to the ball, by angling in and meeting the ball. He needed to drive it deeper and higher. People are right that the ball needed to be aimed at the pylon with more loft.

In the FSU game, on the flea flicker, Beck threw a ball from his own 46 to the 5 yard line with absolute ease. Plenty of loft on it, Toney had beaten his defender, and it was a great throw. Somewhere between the throw he did make and the throw to Toney was what he needed.

 

[cway313]

No ****

 

[Jonnyblaze]

Wasn’t the best decision, wasn’t the best throw.

In the end, one of many plays that would’ve changed the outcome of the game had they gone the other way.

Bain is an all-time great and played fantastic, but his offsides on that third down gave them another shot at it. We could’ve gotten off the field. They ended up scoring on that drive.

Lots of things contributed to that loss.

 

[JayCane20]

Not ripping this dude. I've seen him do solid breakdowns before but I don't think he realizes how far this throw is.

Far hash to sideline = 100 feet
47 yard line to goal line = 141 feet

Do the basic geometry and the distance from where Beck was standing to the front pylon is just under 173 feet or 57 2/3rds yards. For a throw that really needs to be a strike, can't rainbow it and leave time for DB's to adjust while the balls in the air, that's more club than Beck had in his bag especially post injury.

That's a throw that you need top shelf arm strength to make and make consistently. He's asking to much.

Coincidentally the flea flicker to Toney against FSU was snapped at the FSU 44 and thrown from the UM 47 and caught at the FSU 4 with corner and safety in similar position to the WR

Should have been thrown the exact same way.

Doing some rough math I would say the flea flicker was about 52 air yards. So if he put it at the 5 it would have been the exact same throw. He definitely could have done it. He had room to step into both throws.

 

[BRockCane98]

Coincidentally the flea flicker to Toney against FSU was snapped at the FSU 44 and thrown from the UM 47 and caught at the FSU 4 with corner and safety in similar position to the WR

Should have been thrown the exact same way.

Doing some rough math I would say the flea flicker was about 52 air yards. So if he put it at the 5 it would have been the exact same throw. He definitely could have done it. He had room to step into both throws.

He couldn't lob this. It had to be a real strike otherwise the safety has time to get over top. The safety is reacting to the trajectory of the ball in the air. 58 yards on a rope isn't a throw most NFL QB's can make.

 

[canesigep23]

Distance wasnt a factor. He should’ve put that towards that front pylon/sideline. We would’ve walked away national champs. Pain.

Same exact spot as Tua. This is how it should’ve looked.

 

[ThomasM]

He noodle armed it, period. There are dudes on here that can throw a ball that far, and aren't 6'4" and athletic. Terrible, terrible pass.

 

[BRockCane98]

that is a throw every single d1 QB can make.

i can go out to a football field right now and make that throw.

it had nothing to do with his lack of arm strength. he purposefully put the ball where he did (or just missed where he wanted it to go) based on the safety. he did not see that corner dropping at all

No. Very few D1 QB's can make that throw. It has to be a strike from 58 yards. Can't rainbow it.

The NFL use to do a QB challenge at the Pro Bowl where they would throw it as far as they could. I think Testaverde and Favre had the longest throws ever at 75 and 80 yards. The elite arm talents in the NFL could get it over 70. Most guys were between 60 and 70. That's also without pads on and they don't have to think about the trajectory or how long the ball is in the air. Add pads and the need to deliver it on a rope and that's a throw that only top tier arm talents can make.

 

[sedlst11]

Think its more egregrious that Carson knew it was cover 2 and didnt have anyone in the flat holding the corner and he decided to still throw it.

 

[B Run]

Toney was taking over the game...why not stay with him??? I know this doesnt matter anymore but I still cannot get over how it ended.

 

[CityboyCanes4life82]

Not ripping this dude. I've seen him do solid breakdowns before but I don't think he realizes how far this throw is.

Far hash to sideline = 100 feet
47 yard line to goal line = 141 feet

Do the basic geometry and the distance from where Beck was standing to the front pylon is just under 173 feet or 57 2/3rds yards. For a throw that really needs to be a strike, can't rainbow it and leave time for DB's to adjust while the balls in the air, that's more club than Beck had in his bag especially post injury.

That's a throw that you need top shelf arm strength to make and make consistently. He's asking to much.

Do you know who he is? He’s a formal coach of Crystal ball when he was at FIU. He was a head coach of Duke Johnson in high school.

So he knows his football.