The Beck throw....

[CBurrr93]

Dead horse, but my opinion on the matter is he should’ve stared down Toney every snap and if he’s not there launch it into row 12

 

[Silentobserver]

he got picked off at the 15 or 20 yd line... if he throws it 10 more yards, even with air underneath it, at least he gives Marion a chance to come back to the ball and make a catch or at least draw a PI....

Marion had his guy beat..

It was cover 2; the corner plays underneath with help over the top from the safety.

That's a tight window to hit with how deep the corner was able to sink (no one else threatened that side short).

 

[OldhamA]

It wasn’t an egregious distance, but it was also a throw that first round QB’s can make over the years. That among other reasons is why Beck will likely be a late day 2 pick or day 3 pick rather than a round 1 guy.

Bryce Young can't make that throw.

 

[PIPO]

It was a bad throw and it was stupid. WR isnt even looking for ball and Beck threw it straight to defender who had no one threatening the flats to hold him.. Beck hasnt tried that throw ALL year after under throwing Moore who had to make great catch on man single coverage

The coverage was different, the routes were different with an underneath man and he still under threw the ball but this throw would’ve worked on Monday night in terms of it not getting intercepted by Sharpe, but the point is, he can make the throw.

 

[skyman]

The coverage was different, the routes were different with an underneath man and he still under threw the ball but this throw would’ve worked on Monday night in terms of it not getting intercepted by Sharpe, but the point is, he can make the throw.

Point is he didnt really try after the UL disaster.. Just bought it up because its the same spot on field type of thing..

 

[B Run]

If he does that, rainbows it, it's a jump ball between the safety and Marion that hopefully Marion breaks up or wins. If the throw is stronger the safety will see that and take a different angle. Rainbow'ing it to the goal line isn't ideal but it's far better than what he did.

I agree with you as well, however I didnt mean to rainbow it, I meant loft with leading the receiver...Marion had the step for it to fall right in his hands

 

[DerekDohrman]

100% he can make that throw

the deep ball to moore wasnt even him throwing it at full power, you can tell by his release. beck was inaccurate all year on his deep balls. he often overthrew wrs too. its not an arm strength issue its an accuracy/touch issue

 

[OldhamA]

I don't think the distance is an issue at all. It's the type of throw he chose to make.

He drove the ball flat, thinking because the defender was beat he could get it there ahead of him. But because it's flat the defender can recover, in relation to the ball, by angling in and meeting the ball. He needed to drive it deeper and higher. People are right that the ball needed to be aimed at the pylon with more loft.

In the FSU game, on the flea flicker, Beck threw a ball from his own 46 to the 5 yard line with absolute ease. Plenty of loft on it, Toney had beaten his defender, and it was a great throw. Somewhere between the throw he did make and the throw to Toney was what he needed.

You may be right - but to me if you're throwing that pass that early (it's clearly his first read) then it's TD or bust. You can't throw a 'safe' ball (i.e. thinking the CB was going to play the flats) - you're going for the killshot there.

 

[PIPO]

It was cover 2; the corner plays underneath with help over the top from the safety.

That's a tight window to hit with how deep the corner was able to sink (no one else threatened that side short).

Dawson needed to have someone run a route to the flats so the CB doesn’t bail all the way.

Maybe that’s what Brown (#6) was going to do, although I doubt it. He had to stay in and block because McCoy got blown up pretty bad on that play. Toney or some needed to be in motion to occupy that corner.

 

[miamicanes305]

That’s the throw tua made to beat Georgia in the natty. If the safety makes a play on it, he’s playing the receiver not the ball, meaning the worst case scenario would’ve been an incompletion

 

[DerekDohrman]

dont think its cover 2

check out the safety and corner on the right side of the field. that corner is dropping deep right at the snap

 

[hurricaneman]

Distance wasnt a factor. He should’ve put that towards that front pylon/sideline. We would’ve walked away national champs. Pain.

Same exact spot as Tua. This is how it should’ve looked.

This the correct answer. He couldn't lob it in. He couldn't rifle it. He had to drive it deep and over.

 

[brock]

I think Beck was capable of making that throw, however considering he just got his bell rung a few plays earlier with that hit he probably shouldn’t have attempted that throw

 

[sedlst11]

dont think its cover 2

check out the safety and corner on the right side of the field. that corner is dropping deep right at the snap

Beck said postgame they were in cover 2

 

[AmherstCane]

No one said there would be math.

I don't disagree with your numbers but I would hope by that point in the season that everyone involved would know the limitations so that the play isn't called, or pass isn't thrown

Worst case Marion was a decoy that draws the safety leaving 3 receivers covered by 4 DBs. Somebody gonna be open in that case.

If the safety doesn’t help it’s single coverage go route. Make the **** throw.

As it happened, it was a hybrid of the above because the safety was late.

It’s a NFL throw but Beck had other options.

Marion on the field side is what stressed the safety maximizing options/potential for the play.

 

[Mnhurricane]

I mean he under threw it idk what to tell you guys. It happens. My biggest gripe is they were not selling out on Toney which should mean feed him the ball. And he was open.

It’s a very low % throw for Beck personally all year so whipping it out at the most critical moment was not wise

 

[Schnelly'sPipe]

Woof it's so hard to watch again

 

[Silentobserver]

Dawson needed to have someone run a route to the flats so the CB doesn’t bail all the way.

Maybe that’s what Brown (#6) was going to do, although I doubt it. He had to stay in and block because McCoy got blown up pretty bad on that play. Toney or some needed to be in motion to occupy that corner.

Agreed, but Toney was open in the middle on his dig (a much easier throw, too).

I'm surprised Beck threw the ball to Marion - Marion was surprised too. Marion read cover 2, knew the corner was going to sink due to play design.

 

[Tweed]

It was the SAME EXACT PLAY that Bama ran against Georgia with a slight route adjustment because we were on the right hash as opposed to the left like Bama was.

Our slot (87) ran a wheel route instead of a post, only difference in the route tree.

The play was there, we just didn't make the throw.

If Beck throws the ball where & how Tua did, we are all down on Biscayne celebrating.

 

[PIPO]

Agreed, but Toney was open in the middle on his dig (a much easier throw, too).

I'm surprised Beck threw the ball to Marion - Marion was surprised too. Marion read cover 2, knew the corner was going to sink due to play design.

He pre-determined his throw. He didn’t even look at Mali.

Mali wasn’t open yet when Beck was throwing the ball. If he waits another 1/2 second - 1 second, Mali would’ve come open for Carson’s favorite throw for a good 10-12 yards. But people are making it like he would’ve been open for 20-30 yards. I don’t see how.