The Bank (9/21)

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The whole situation with mccoy going to guard is interesting because, before we even get to if he wants to or not we don’t even know if cantwell is good there

What im confused by is multiple reports late in camp that congdon was ahead of cantwell at guard. Games start and cantwell gets guard reps before congdon

The discussions about us not playing the right guys is giving me pre mario eras ptsd. There shouldn’t be discussions about if the right guys are playing for a championship level team
 
Why would woodrow be ready at center which is a position much more important to have experience at...

If woodrow was ready to contribute ahead of Cantwell, Congdon, (and/or Buchanan) I'd be ******* stunned


Of course you'd be stunned.

Your brain function is too narrow to realize that Rhys Woodrow may be able to play the guard position better than Cantwell/Congdon do. For instance, I know that Woodrow's footwork is far better than Congdon's at this current time, and footwork is very important at the guard position.

But, yeah, just be "******* stunned". It's all you're good at.
 
Isn't it time we start to call out something that seems obvious...

Heatherman doesn't develop LBs well, at all. That's his unit and no one is stepping up.
We just saw Ezekiel look like he was emerging as an equally capable member of the ‘22 Miami Central defense that headlined w/ Rueben Bain and Stanquan Clark. Looked developed to me. Kid was playing fast.

Wiley looks good when he is out there. Bonner looks better than he did last year but I prefer Pruitt’s skillset. I know Mario isn’t happy about Pruitt’s penalty on special teams.
 
He would have started.
Sure but then does McCoy transfer because I’m sure he wants to show off he can be a tackle at the next level. I just don’t understand how they didn’t bring in a guard with some size to take one of the spots.
 
I’m rewatching the Stanford game when we went to a new 6 man platoon in the second half:

Samson—Max/SJ—RR—Cantwell—McCoy

What jumps out to me is how fatigued RR looks. He is not moving well AT ALL, and his lack of engagement on defenders foreshadows issues that happened against Wake Forest in the second half.

I’m far more concerned about RR. James Brockmeyer is a practice squad player and he felt like a massive downgrade from Zach Carpenter and Matt Lee the two years prior. RR isn’t on James’ level.

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slightly interesting sidebar was that Briggs was in on Nickel’s first snap. Wanna see if he gets an opportunity against CMU as we need to build depth.

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I know there was talk on Rhys Woodrow at guard, but we need Rhys Woodrow at center lol. There’s only one guy who misses their block and causes this to be a TFL: RR.

Mfs hating on Pringle and talking about arm tackles bringing him down: behold my wrath! Clearly eludes this arm tackle however literally what is he supposed to do here? RR left him out for dead, doesn’t even slow him down enough for Giard to be able to avoid the edge on the backside who didn’t bite on Spafford’s motion.

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TLDR: RR makes our guards worse, and he may very well be worse than our guards. Haven’t watched all three games back but McCoy doesn’t even deserve to be lumped in with the other 3. He is doing his job, withstanding an illegal hand to his face-mask. SJ does better than Cantwell this snap; yet both are adequate enough Pringle had space to do his thing; UNTILL RR ruined the rush.
 
The last paragraph. Football coaches are a special breed of stubborn which is why most fail. These two hombres think they are gods gift to OL coaching. Don’t get me wrong they are very good. But they tried to convince themselves they could rewrite the laws of physics… hoping the rumors I’ve heard are true about LG experiment largely being phased out. But I will believe it when I see it
Rumors? Pray do tell…
 
I’m rewatching the Stanford game when we went to a new 6 man platoon in the second half:

Samson—Max/SJ—RR—Cantwell—McCoy

What jumps out to me is how fatigued RR looks. He is not moving well AT ALL, and his lack of engagement on defenders foreshadows issues that happened against Wake Forest in the second half.

I’m far more concerned about RR. James Brockmeyer is a practice squad player and he felt like a massive downgrade from Zach Carpenter and Matt Lee the two years prior. RR isn’t on James’ level.

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slightly interesting sidebar was that Briggs was in on Nickel’s first snap. Wanna see if he gets an opportunity against CMU as we need to build depth.

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I know there was talk on Rhys Woodrow at guard, but we need Rhys Woodrow at center lol. There’s only one guy who misses their block and causes this to be a TFL: RR.

Mfs hating on Pringle and talking about arm tackles bringing him down: behold my wrath! Clearly eludes this arm tackle however literally what is he supposed to do here? RR left him out for dead, doesn’t even slow him down enough for Giard to be able to avoid the edge on the backside who didn’t bite on Spafford’s motion.

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TLDR: RR makes our guards worse, and he may very well be worse than our guards. Haven’t watched all three games back but McCoy doesn’t even deserve to be lumped in with the other 3. He is doing his job, withstanding an illegal hand to his face-mask. SJ does better than Cantwell this snap; yet both are adequate enough Pringle had space to do his thing; UNTILL RR ruined the rush.
Our OL miss the 2nd level so **** often. SJ is the worst by far followed by Ryan. Max seems to find a guy to block, his problem is getting his weight too far forward in pass pro (seems fixable). TBH our OL looks so confused and hesitant out there. Can we just find someone to block and bury em?

I watched the Stanford game at least 4 times watching the OL in run blocking. Ryan was sloppy at first but got better as the game went on, not including this miss on the Pringle run. I feel as tho there may be hope for Ryan. He was getting some push. I think Max can be a good player. Need to replace SJ with somebody.
 
Im ****ed about the first part in regards to bringing in more guys (we dropped the ball) but Ahmmon hit on the 2nd part better than I could explain, because guys overlook what I call the Human nature "politics" of it all..

McCoy has a 1000 reps at guard but he look at it as he earned his right to play tackle. Its his senior year and he did 4 years putting in work. He EARNED that (thats what this program is built on right), now you want to tell him move back inside so a TRUE FRESHMAN hotshot high paid guy can come and not have to put the same work in at guard he was sold on and not have to grind for years and he get to red carpet to tackle spot?! We all know tckle is glamour spot and scouts will ask why he was moved? And I see some say he have enough film, famu aint film, no scout or gm will ever watch that crap.. lol..
I agree, 100% with what you said about McCoy. He’s earned that right and he’s playing **** good at RT. But the only idea right now how to improve this interior offensive line, is to kick him inside and let Cantwell play right T. Because it’s clear as day he’s a tackle, but McCoy can play guard at a high-level two. So I don’t know what the answer is and it’s well above my pay grade, but that’s my only idea on it because what we have inside right now, isn’t cutting it.
 
This is Jordan Lyle’s Super Bowl on Saturday
It’s now or never for that young man. He was lights out and fall camp, it’s time to show it on the field. I believe in him and think he will.
 
sucks Marcelin got hurt, he is playing well. starting to grow. that is what happens as season goes on, guys step up.
You think any of the fresh play this year like a JJ Edwards?
Luckily, it’s just a few weeks. We’ll have him back by FSU.
 
It’s gotta be Congdon that breaks through then, especially with his wrestler background

Maybe Cannon Pickett but I thought he was banged up
He’s supposedly healthy now, so it’s an option.
 
RR is feeling the noise already. His press conference was eye-opening. Looked like a guy trying to defend himself and the unit whilst knowing that it's not enough.
 
Our OL miss the 2nd level so **** often. SJ is the worst by far followed by Ryan. Max seems to find a guy to block, his problem is getting his weight too far forward in pass pro (seems fixable). TBH our OL looks so confused and hesitant out there. Can we just find someone to block and bury em?

I watched the Stanford game at least 4 times watching the OL in run blocking. Ryan was sloppy at first but got better as the game went on, not including this miss on the Pringle run. I feel as tho there may be hope for Ryan. He was getting some push. I think Max can be a good player. Need to replace SJ with somebody.
That’s all i ask for. Inexcusable to not get your hands on anybody.

I feel like we need to be subbing these dudes way more because these errors are beyond costly. Good to know on Ryan. Going to keep watching.

Seems like Rhys Woodrow and Canon Pickett may get opportunities to showcase themselves as replacements. No matter what, i feel like having a second set of interior guys to swap out is necessary.
 
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