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CaneFanWNY said:
Haven't really had the chance to read up on this yet today. Is notre dame still trying to be apart of the conference without being apart of it? If so, hopefully every single team involved with said "alliance" rallies together and blacklists these ******* losers until they're all in or all out.
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The press release said ND will count as the ACC cross-conference game if a PAC-12/BIG-10 team already has ND on their future schedule.
 
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QuattroCane said:
Until it happens I refuse to believe WVU to the ACC. I see zero upside to it?
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Agreed. The ONLY way that I could tolerate taking WVU is if the ACC added 4 teams, with one of those teams being Notre Dame.

WVU brings NOTHING to the the table. They are abysmal in every possible way. Not a good academic fit, not a good athletic fit (except for basketball), horrendous TV markets, worthless alumni base, etc. etc. etc.
 
fincane said:
Been reported that the Pac 12 doesn't believe any Big 12 schools not named OU or Texas add value. I'm sure Fox and the TV people feel one way but all the Pac-12 would be doing is splitting up the pie and reducing what they get per team. Same for the ACC. What type of value financially does Morgantown add?
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SCarolina Ibis said:
Uh huh.. what a dip****.

IIRC the ACC has a presence in more of the top 50 media markets than any other conference. The problem, even with the alliance, is Texas. The SEC would still have the entire state to themselves.

Somebody needs to jump on Houston. They could be a sleeping giant in a P5 conference.
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Houston is one of the most overrated big city schools out there. No one gives a **** about UH IN HOUSTON. That's Aggie country , and has been for well over a century. This "So and so school is in a major market, so we must get them, regardless of fit." Is how Rutgers got into the B1G and serves no purpose.
 
Theres still no contract. Everyone can back out at any given time. Its essentially nothing. The SEC can present something to one of the conferences with a clear plan and structure before the "alliance" has figured something out and the offered conference is out of there.
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It's been a few weeks, what are they gonna sign? If they put something together in two weeks and had people sign a document I would question whether that leadership is fit to run a Piggy Wiggly, let alone a college football conference. People complain about the ACC getting into a horrible TV contract with ESPN, you think a contract created in two weeks is going to be something we all look back on and go, "that was a good idea"?

Their options were do nothing or start the process and make it public. I'm certain they have an idea how much the Alliance TV deals would be worth when they finally restructure and I'm also certain it will be enough to keep schools happy to stay. Without further options to expand, what leverage does the SEC have at this point to increase their projected revenue? With the ACC, Big10, and PAC12 doing this there are literally no more teams the SEC could add that would actually increase value. So go negotiate with major networks and say, "pay us more than the SEC is worth, we have a larger footprint and markets and more matchups to offer". By the time Saban leaves, the SEC might be incredibly devalued, which would be about the time all these negotiations would be going on.

Let the thing play out.
 
a whole lot of meh….just like I thought it was. Bunch of vague intentions that wil fall apart as soon as their interests no longer align
 
Canestomp said:
I'm not as ****ed off at the SEC as I am ESPN. The fact that ESPN has such a heavy thumb on the scales of college athletic decision-making alone should cause every team not SEspnC incensed. That's like you and your coworker vying for a promotion but the boss is secretly advocating for your coworker; except also, all your quarterly and annual bonuses have been funneled to that coworker too. Also, your boss has been sending you on business trips so that coworker getting your promotion can bang your wife while you are away.
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Who owns the acc tv rights and the acc network?
 
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I found the whole discussion of the Big 12 conference pretty cold. They are sure Bowlsby will “take care of his conference”. The believe in the importance of the Big 12 as a conference. Basically gave Bowlsby the big FU. Pretty funny since there have been rumors he already went to PAC 12 and tried to merge. Pretty clear there were shots fired at Bowlsby and the SEC.
 
Hegemon said:
You really think two weeks is enough time to fully integrate?

Lol

Jesus
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There’s zero reason for a formal announcement with this kind of Info, that’s the real lol. Outside of the possibility of somehow consolidating their tv rights, nothing about this alliance will end up being substantial or have any real effect on the conferences. They are merely trying to push back against the sec and try to assert some measure of power, but this was a pretty limp wristed attempt
 
Genghis Cane said:
Maybe this alliance compels Notre Dame to make the jump to the ACC because they will have the potential to maintain their rivalries with USC, Michigan, etc.
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They can do that anyway if the leak from Yahoo that Hoya posted was correct. It says any team that already plays ND would count that as their Acc game. Which essentially means nobody from the acc is ever playing usc, Stanford, and most years Michigan.
 
You can tell who the SEC homers are in this thread, that’s for sure.

If you think this is all there’s going to be to this alliance, you are sadly mistaken. This is just the first step.

But you SEC fūckboys boys keep shltting on it, I know you’re shook as ****.

The rest of college football is not going stand by while the SEC tries to crowd every other team out of the goodies.

Like I said this is just the first step.

Do you think the greatest minds in graduate and postgraduate education are going to let a bunch of low class SEC rednecks run things? College football is big business in the better schools as well, the schools with smarter people, and higher admission standards. Just as it is in the low rent admit-anybody SEC.

Like I said before, the law of unintended consequences has got its foot about a third of the way up the SEC’s ***.

Your move, SEC
 
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hurricaneman said:
It's been a few weeks, what are they gonna sign? If they put something together in two weeks and had people sign a document I would question whether that leadership is fit to run a Piggy Wiggly, let alone a college football conference. People complain about the ACC getting into a horrible TV contract with ESPN, you think a contract created in two weeks is going to be something we all look back on and go, "that was a good idea"?

Their options were do nothing or start the process and make it public. I'm certain they have an idea how much the Alliance TV deals would be worth when they finally restructure and I'm also certain it will be enough to keep schools happy to stay. Without further options to expand, what leverage does the SEC have at this point to increase their projected revenue? With the ACC, Big10, and PAC12 doing this there are literally no more teams the SEC could add that would actually increase value. So go negotiate with major networks and say, "pay us more than the SEC is worth, we have a larger footprint and markets and more matchups to offer". By the time Saban leaves, the SEC might be incredibly devalued, which would be about the time all these negotiations would be going on.

Let the thing play out.
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How about a signed agreement that determines that these three will actually do something together? That shouldnt be too hard to do, right?

Right now, everyone can still leave at any given time with no repercussions in a billion dollar business. Thats a big problem.
 
There will be plenty more that comes out in a few years I would think. We will likely stop/slow our OOC scheduling and start to put together that side of the agreement with the other two conferences. Only then will we start seeing talk of trying to better/combine our tv contracts and etc. If it all comes to nothing then the SEC will ruin us all so let's all just hope that doesn't happen
 
canesbaby said:
Not trying to pick a fight but this seems like a shortsighted view. You would rather play Central Connecticut and FAMU than any of these teams?
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I would rather play Alabama than Iowa.

We pick who we play today, out of conference. With this alliance, we give up that control and what do we get in return?
 
Artist Formerly Known As said:
It may not improve our schedule much, but it will hurt the SECs more. If they can only get OOC games with G5 teams, they’ll lose a fair amount of luster. One thing that keeps the SEC luster is their early season success in neutral site or OOC games.
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Yeah, but why not go the whole 9 yards and ONLY schedule OOC with other alliance teams?

If you want to draw blood, you have to make big moves. Kill the Clemson vs South Carolina, FSU vs UF, all of the OOC games against the SEC.

The current proposal is half-assed and won’t harm the SEC much at all
 
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