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Canedude08 said:
With a competent AD and a good HC, we can and should be playing championship level ball. That said, Miami will never be managed like Clemson or Alabama, and for good reason.

You can have quality academics and a nationally competitive athletic department. That said, Miami has to approach it correctly. Miami can't do it like Alabama does it, Miami has to be extremely responsible with the resources at their disposal. In other words, don't hire Manny Diaz and don't have someone like Blake James as the admin in charge.
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Such a simple concept anywhere but Coral Gables.
 
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canes732 said:
It’s crazy Bc they don’t want to be a sports school yet Miami’s academics have dropped down since Frenk took over so what are they good at exactly
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That’s going to help spur change IMO. The decline is crossing into different areas, not the least of which is academics, and that’s a big problem for them. This BOT really has its hands full right now and they need to find a way to fix multiple issues at once.
 
Cribby said:
The problem has always been the elitist don’t want to be known as a football school. They’ve always fought against it. This has always been the battle.
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Which is incredibly stupid because the school is nationally known for one reason: the football program (to a lesser extent the baseball program since college baseball isn't nearly as popular). A successful football program increases donations and increases admissions applications.
 
Canedude08 said:
With a competent AD and a good HC, we can and should be playing championship level ball. That said, Miami will never be managed like Clemson or Alabama, and for good reason.

You can have quality academics and a nationally competitive athletic department. That said, Miami has to approach it correctly. Miami can't do it like Alabama does it, Miami has to be extremely responsible with the resources at their disposal. In other words, don't hire Manny Diaz and don't have someone like Blake James as the admin in charge.
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Canedude spittin a lot of truth with his posts. Some people here keep talking about how UM "has the money" and can afford to buyout Manny, buyout Mario, and then hire Mario and make him (probably) one of the highest paid HC's in the country.

I just don't believe that. Now maybe someone steps up and says I'll cover those expenses but to this day we just haven't seen that. We had to crowdsource our IPF. I haven't done the research to see how other big time programs pay for things like that but my gut tells me it's not starting a gofundme....

With that said, I do believe we have more than enough money to move on from Manny and make a solid hiring. Someone that can consistently get us 10+ wins and finish top 10 each season. Idk who that is but I do know Blake and Manny combo won't get us there.
 
RVACane said:
That’s going to help spur change IMO. The decline is crossing into different areas, not the least of which is academics, and that’s a big problem for them. This BOT really has its hands full right now and they need to find a way to fix multiple issues at once.
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From the outside looking in, seems to me the BOT has their hands full because they’ve been asleep at the wheel. When there are issues on both the athletic AND the academic sides, it reveals to me that there’s a lack of leadership from the top down.
 
blushrts said:
Which is incredibly stupid because the school is nationally known for one reason: the football program (to a lesser extent the baseball program since college baseball isn't nearly as popular). A successful football program increases donations and increases admissions applications.
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Forget the BoT....if only you could hear the passionate hate for athletics, especially football, among some of the tenured U faculty!

When I hear some of them talk, it is surreal, their academic elitist arrogance. They talk like only the brainless play football.
Some of them wanted the President to kill the football program during the Pell grant and Shapiro scandals. In fact they circulated a secret memo among faculty calling for that.
 
Canedude08 said:

Trustees | Board of Trustees | University of Miami

The University of Miami is a duly chartered private educational institution incorporated under Florida law; its original Charter was granted by the Circuit Court of the Eleventh Judicial Circuit in and for Dade County, as permitted by the Florida Statutes prior to 1959.
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That was after a cursory Google search. I've been on Lemonis for a bit on social media, because he is one of the few that actually provides that avenue of communication. Write letters, get a rally going on down by Hecht, make a scene in a way that notes that THEY are the reason this happened. Blake James is an incompetent idiot, Strawley is his spineless underling. That said, someone should have ended this nonsense years ago. The DAY Blake James walked in and said "I'm hiring Manny Diaz, and I'm paying Temple 4 million to do it" should have been the day someone stepped up and said "We expect your letter of resignation ASAP".
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Banners?
 
miamicanephins said:
Banners?
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Not good enough. If this fanbase really wanted to do something, start protesting down across from the Hecht. Start calling and writing the athletic department incessantly with your frustration. That requires dedication and a lot of our fans don't have the stones to do that. The banner is just stupid because it doesn't serve a purpose, it's a quick "Look at me" stunt, I'm about making these people's lives a living ****(Within the legal limits), until they realize that protecting Blake James and Manny Diaz isn't worth it.
 
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caneworld said:
Forget the BoT....if only you could hear the passionate hate for athletics, especially football, among some of the tenured U faculty!

When I hear some of them talk, it is surreal, their academic elitist arrogance. They talk like only the brainless play football.
Some of them wanted the President to kill the football program during the Pell grant and Shapiro scandals. In fact they circulated a secret memo among faculty calling for that.
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I'm sure you've got some of that everywhere unfortunately.
 
Jedi Master Cane said:
Not bad. It only took ESPN about a decade to FINALLY publicly call out the people that many of us have been saying going back to Grassy are REALLY to blame here.

Hopefully this leads to changes in the AD department, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Why would ESPN have anything to say about this?
 
Canedude08 said:
Miss me with this nonsense.

Keep believing that 12-14 fall Saturdays can build a University for the long haul. One that has dozens of departments and thousands of people working. Nah, it can't be the things that led to billions coming in, no, it's just a guy running into the endzone. That's why the SEC is by far the best academic conference. That's why Cal is a glorified community college, while Alabama competes with Harvard...
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Cal is a glorified community college???
What does that make UM? A technical college??

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PIPO said:
Cal is a glorified community college???
What does that make UM? A technical college??
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You missed the entire point, read the second part of my statement. I was saying that if sports were the end all be all, Cal would be a community college, while Bama competes against the Ivy League, not the other way around. Cal hasn't been relevant in sports for the last century.
 
Canedude08 said:
You missed the entire point, read the second part of my statement. I was saying that if sports were the end all be all, Cal would be a community college, while Bama competes against the Ivy League, not the other way around. Cal hasn't been relevant in sports for the last century.
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Got ya. My bad
 
RVACane said:
That’s going to help spur change IMO. The decline is crossing into different areas, not the least of which is academics, and that’s a big problem for them. This BOT really has its hands full right now and they need to find a way to fix multiple issues at once.
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This is the truth of it and thankfully so. That decline in academics is crucial to anything being done. Cautiously optimistic and straight hoping the ACC circle of suck makes sure Nanny don't get another year.
 
Canedude08 said:
With a competent AD and a good HC, we can and should be playing championship level ball. That said, Miami will never be managed like Clemson or Alabama, and for good reason.

You can have quality academics and a nationally competitive athletic department. That said, Miami has to approach it correctly. Miami can't do it like Alabama does it, Miami has to be extremely responsible with the resources at their disposal. In other words, don't hire Manny Diaz and don't have someone like Blake James as the admin in charge.
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Yes there are plenty of private schools who excel both in academics and sports - USC, Notre Dame, Duke, Stanford, Georgetown. Not certain, but by 2001 I remember Miami already being nationally respected for academics. That did not stop us from building the greatest college football team of all time.
 
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Canedude08 said:
With a competent AD and a good HC, we can and should be playing championship level ball. That said, Miami will never be managed like Clemson or Alabama, and for good reason.

You can have quality academics and a nationally competitive athletic department. That said, Miami has to approach it correctly. Miami can't do it like Alabama does it, Miami has to be extremely responsible with the resources at their disposal. In other words, don't hire Manny Diaz and don't have someone like Blake James as the admin in charge.
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Alabama has quality academics. Not sure what you're saying.
 
AllAboutTheU13 said:
Yes there are plenty of private schools who excel both in academics and sports - USC, Notre Dame, Duke, Stanford, Georgetown. Not certain, but by 2001 I remember Miami already being nationally respected for academics. That did not stop us from building the greatest college football team of all time.
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Weird thing is that out of all the schools you listed only Miami, Notre Dame and USC has had significant, sustained national relevance in football in the last century. Most private schools barely try in football and put most of their resources in basketball or baseball, sports that require significantly less financial investment.

Does that excuse the incompetence of the BOT and Blake James? No, Miami may not be able to spend like the typical factory school, but we aren't getting a good bang for our buck now.

Our fans need to let go of the 2001 team, that isn't happening for Miami in this era, thanks to the NCAA making it impossible for a program like Miami to stack talent like that, without the hounds being called in. However, Miami can compete with the big schools, but it requires managerial excellence, and careful budgeting. Miami should be a consistent top 15 program in football, playing a compelling brand of ball.
 
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Canedude08 said:
thanks to the NCAA making it impossible for a program like Miami to stack talent like that, without the blinds being called in
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The ncaa now exists in name only. There is nothing to fear from them. The conference is the only thing that matters in terms of enforcement. Right now the acc looks like garbage. The football crown jewel, Clemson, now looks like a mid tier SEC team. The ACC top brass are going to be desperate for team to separate itself from the pack and guarantee the conference at least one playoff spot. Why? Because the playoff spot earns the conference about $6 million, a % of which goes into the acc commissioners pocket. The ACC isn't going to care if Miami cheats at recruiting to win unless it is so blatant (like recruits getting Ferraris) that they have to drop the hammer. Miami has carte blanche to do what it needs to do (and what sec programs have been doing for years) to stack talent. Ncaa isn't calling in any blinds because the acc commish is going to tell them to put their toy guns away if they even think about showing up and pretending to be the recruiting police.
 
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