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BWCD said:
OBLIVION said:
I remember last season when dudes actually had the nerve to blame the defense for the offense sucking.

zone3cane was one of the biggest clowns pushing that ****. LMAO at the defense kept the offense from getting into a rhythm.
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Bingo.

Pointing at metric measures like our horrid offensive 3rd down % affecting our TOP, and thus--keeping our defense on the field for 20+ more snaps than the opposing D is a big **** deal...especially over the course of the season. It's proof positive.

If the offense wants to get into a rhythm, get someone with a cohesive plan on O that will engender a rhythm when we execute it well. A 60 yard SteMo bomb wasn't "rhythm". What we saw out of our O on Monday night wasn't "rhythm". What we saw Louisville do in the 4th quarter to seal the game up was "rhythm", and was a direct result of our O not having any rhythm or rhyme or reason to our playcalling...and the numbers support that soundly.
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The problem you ran into was that it appeared you were trying to excuse away the putrescence of the defense by pointing out how the offense was hurting them. You don't need to do that. You'd make a much better case just talking about how the offense sucks on its own.

Guys who hate our defense are on edge on anyone who looks like he is trying to excuse away the garbage that is our defense. Both units are horrible by themselves, and it looks like our special teams isn't far behind.
 
The Franchise said:
BWCD said:
OBLIVION said:
I remember last season when dudes actually had the nerve to blame the defense for the offense sucking.

zone3cane was one of the biggest clowns pushing that ****. LMAO at the defense kept the offense from getting into a rhythm.
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Bingo.

Pointing at metric measures like our horrid offensive 3rd down % affecting our TOP, and thus--keeping our defense on the field for 20+ more snaps than the opposing D is a big **** deal...especially over the course of the season. It's proof positive.

If the offense wants to get into a rhythm, get someone with a cohesive plan on O that will engender a rhythm when we execute it well. A 60 yard SteMo bomb wasn't "rhythm". What we saw out of our O on Monday night wasn't "rhythm". What we saw Louisville do in the 4th quarter to seal the game up was "rhythm", and was a direct result of our O not having any rhythm or rhyme or reason to our playcalling...and the numbers support that soundly.
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The problem you ran into was that it appeared you were trying to excuse away the putrescence of the defense by pointing out how the offense was hurting them. You don't need to do that. You'd make a much better case just talking about how the offense sucks on its own.

Guys who hate our defense are on edge on anyone who looks like he is trying to excuse away the garbage that is our defense. Both units are horrible by themselves, and it looks like our special teams isn't far behind.
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I know. And I even went out of my way to say that I wasn't doing that at all. No matter how much I said that our D sucks d1ck, but that the O didn't do them any favors and backed that up with metrics...all everyone thought was that I was defending NoDFrio because everyone had the red-*** over the D (and rightly so). They also saw the explosive offensive plays, and were so head-deep in wanting to put NoDFrio's head on a pike, that they ignored our ineptitude elsewhere.

So...if anyone ever decides to say I was "apologizing" for the D last year--kindly GFY. The D sucked enough on it's own (and still does), without needing the extra handicap put on top of it by the O being woefully inept at converting 3rd downs, or ****--even getting 10 yards in 3 downs, unless it was a homerun last year or a busted coverage on Monday night.

Anyone ****ed and wanting NoDFrio out as of now and as of last year should have been just as ****ed about Pricko Suave this whole time. Not my fault folks were too blind not to see it. The #'s told the story, and folks ignored it.
 
LuCane said:
Ibis Wingz said:
Corch Coley is on Nix's level as a play caller, but he is an awesome recruiter. I would love to find a way to keep him and leverage his strength while relieving him of his play calling duties.
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There's no way he's moving back into an Assistant QB/Recruiting Coordinator role at UM. Guy really needed to cut his teeth calling plays at a mid-major. Patrick Nix, who I used to destroy because of his concepts, had a more cohesive plan than what we've currently seen. This isn't a reaction to Louisville. Been saying this since last season. Guy has consistently been a step behind.
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My fear is that he gets fired from here and goes on to recruit for UF, FSU or an SEC team.

He's so good of a recruiter we gotta hope he gets a small school HC job.
 
The Franchise said:
Gatorhater said:
RickinCanesville said:
Jimbo is laughing his *** off.
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Jimbo tried to keep him, probably because of recruiting, so he might not have known how bad he is. Can't fault Al for hiring what was supposed to be big time recruiter and giving him last year as a pass, but now dude has to go. Problem is Al doesn't seem capable of admitting he makes mistakes--that is why he doesn't fire coaches, not loyalty, it is pure pride.
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Shimbo did try to keep him, but he never agreed to let him call plays .
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Jimbo knew what we have learned.
 
RickinCanesville said:
The Franchise said:
Gatorhater said:
RickinCanesville said:
Jimbo is laughing his *** off.
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Jimbo tried to keep him, probably because of recruiting, so he might not have known how bad he is. Can't fault Al for hiring what was supposed to be big time recruiter and giving him last year as a pass, but now dude has to go. Problem is Al doesn't seem capable of admitting he makes mistakes--that is why he doesn't fire coaches, not loyalty, it is pure pride.
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Shimbo did try to keep him, but he never agreed to let him call plays .
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Jimbo knew what we have learned.
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I am sure a lot of schools want Coley from recruiting perspective. Very charismatic man. We were just the team who wanted him for recruiting, and were desperate enough to try him as OC to boost recruiting effort.
 
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The Franchise said:
Corch Coley sucks .No doubt. But this is another case of everyone looking like **** when your HC is a toilet.

I don't know who was responsible for the philosophy that we went into the UL game with where we set our offense up for failure by running into down hill charging 9 man fronts on first and second and trying to throw a very basic PA roll out game on 3rd and long with a freshmans QB, but I'm guessing that sissy approach was dictated by the same sissy HC who had that same timid approach to every other aspect of the game.

Say what you will about Corch Coley, but he doesn't come off as a guy with a soft timid approach to the game. When your HC philosophy and approach to the game is what ours is it is impossible for coordinators, or anyone else for that matter, to flourish at their highest level.

Blaming coordinators and position corches 4 years in is lame.
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So who we blaming then now, THE DON?





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Coaching Changes wish list for 2015:
Pruitt as Head Coach, Stoops as D Coordinator, Dorsey as O Coordinator and QB Coach, Hurlie at LB Coach, Harris as RB Coach, Beard as WR coach, Carroll as TE coach, Baez and Coley as Recruiting Coordinators, anyone but Jethro Franklin at D Line Coach.
 
LuCane said:
Ibis Wingz said:
Corch Coley is on Nix's level as a play caller, but he is an awesome recruiter. I would love to find a way to keep him and leverage his strength while relieving him of his play calling duties.
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There's no way he's moving back into an Assistant QB/Recruiting Coordinator role at UM. Guy really needed to cut his teeth calling plays at a mid-major. Patrick Nix, who I used to destroy because of his concepts, had a more cohesive plan than what we've currently seen. This isn't a reaction to Louisville. Been saying this since last season. Guy has consistently been a step behind.
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I'm not sure about that. Maybe we bring in an offensive guy and Coley stays on as "offensive coordinator." I'm not sure how OSU has it, but when Urban Meyer was brought in Luke Fickell moved back to DC and stayed on staff. He's currently their co-DC I believe. I don't know if he calls plays or not.
 
I actually think if they kept Coley as the Interim, there is a SMALL chance he could stick around for another year on a new staff. IF the new HC is an offensive guy, Coley COULD decide to move to QB coach/ Recruiting Coordinator, in order to save face. It would sure look better than flat out being fired. He could also be "Co-OC" for a year, and that would allow him to eventually lateral to another OC gig without looking like he got sh*tcanned. That would be a win/win for everyone. He stays on for at least a year to help the new staff in recruiting and keep the current class together, while preserving his resume from looking like he got sh*tcanned as a failed OC. Granted it will look like a demotion, but it can still be spun somewhat. If he was THAT bad, they wouldn't have kept him on at all will be the prevailing consensus.
 
The Franchise said:
Corch Coley sucks .No doubt. But this is another case of everyone looking like **** when your HC is a toilet.

I don't know who was responsible for the philosophy that we went into the UL game with where we set our offense up for failure by running into down hill charging 9 man fronts on first and second and trying to throw a very basic PA roll out game on 3rd and long with a freshmans QB, but I'm guessing that sissy approach was dictated by the same sissy HC who had that same timid approach to every other aspect of the game.

Say what you will about Corch Coley, but he doesn't come off as a guy with a soft timid approach to the game. When your HC philosophy and approach to the game is what ours is it is impossible for coordinators, or anyone else for that matter, to flourish at their highest level.

Blaming coordinators and position corches 4 years in is lame.
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Great post
 
Someone needs to look #SimpleDale in the face and tell him that he's a helluva recruiter, a good QB Coach, but a sh1tty OC. That someone should be Golden, but I'll be OK if it ends up being someone else.

If he accepts that and wants to stay in Miami--that's awesome. Keep him on staff as the Recruiting Coordinator/QB Coach, but find someone who can do the OC job effectively.

If he doesn't accept that and he wants to go somewhere other than Miami, someone who will let him call plays...then let him go, find out where he goes to, and put that team on the schedule in perpetuity because that's probably a team even NoDFrio's D can stop at least once a season.

I didn't think it could get much worse than Nix/Whipple. Pricko Suave's a whole new level of stank OC.
 
Been tryin to tell you all.
Its hopeless with Coley. He has no track record of success. There is a reason why Jimbo didn't let him call plays.
And compared to the defense the offense has had talent and experience.
Inexcusable to be so putrid on third down.
 
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One failing on offense from the last game that I think hasn't been discussed - how many times did Kaaya take a straight 3, 5 or 7 step drop, with no play action, no WR screen and not in the shotgun? I'm not sure I can think of many (not even sure I can think of more than a couple) times we ran a basic pass play from under center, even though most of our runs were from under center.

I'd say it's pretty impossible to have a pro-style offense (which is I guess what our offense purports to be) without having these plays. I'd say it's pretty difficult to attack a defense with our WRs or TEs consistently unless we either have these basic passing plays/routes from under center, unless we're going to do so out of the shotgun, which we also didn't do. I can't recall a game where we used so few pass plays/formations.
 
CaneAlmighty said:
Been tryin to tell you all.
Its hopeless with Coley. He has no track record of success. There is a reason why Jimbo didn't let him call plays.
And compared to the defense the offense has had talent and experience.
Inexcusable to be so putrid on third down.
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And who's fault is it that he's here!?
 
If I'm a recruit. Even if I am a major Cane fan, grew up one and all. I dont think I'd put my NFL aspirations in the hands of these losers.
 
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