TedHendricksOffSpring.....what you hearin, bro

[stormsurge]

why would golden give up $8M to go to another school and what school is going to hire him AND pay that buyout?

 

[CanesAreAble]

why would golden give up $8M to go to another school and what school is going to hire him AND pay that buyout?

My hope:

1. The buyout would be negotiated down significantly, especially since both parties seem to want out.

2. He knows he's a dead man walking here. He can go somewhere and start fresh where his philosophies might go over better.

 

[drewm3i]

It's hard not to lose interest in this football program..... I went away for a couple of hours to do some work and then come back, read this sh*t and am now in a bad mood again. How do I care so much about a school that mainly cares about PR, Apr, grad rates, and is cheap?

 

[stormsurge]

How much of the buyout got this big because of UM not fully disclosing the NCAA stuff to Golden? If so, then we can thank this enormous buyout - and corner we're in - at least in part to the UM's, err, creative communication.

On Golden, why would any of us believe he would leave serious money on the table? This cat may never get another chance at a serious HC job and the serious $$$ again.

 

[CanesAreAble]

The stuff about PR and APR is so frustrating. As if those are difficult goals for a D1 coach. Out APR has been good under Coker, Shannon, and Golden. What's the benefit of having a coach who's exceptional at PR if he's lousy on Saturdays? All that does is generate NEGATIVE press (as evidenced by what's happening now) and has financial ramifications.

I just don't get it, man. Even if they don't care about football, they should have enough business acumen to know a strong football brand benefits the school.

I can't even...

 

[fincane]

How much of the buyout got this big because of UM not fully disclosing the NCAA stuff to Golden? If so, then we can thank this enormous buyout - and corner we're in - at least in part to the UM's, err, creative communication.

On Golden, why would any of us believe he would leave serious money on the table? This cat may never get another chance at a serious HC job and the serious $$$ again.

For the same reasons he won't a make any changes to a staff that has woefully underachieved. Stubbornness and arrogance. Either he is purposefully trying to fail or he thinks his way should work and the players(guys he recruited) just aren't getting it. Also self-preservation. Haith got out of Missouri and took a Tulsa job a year before they fired him and left him un-hirable. Golden has that in him. No doubt. Get one more job where he thinks it could work without the pressure that comes from coaching at Miami.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

How much of the buyout got this big because of UM not fully disclosing the NCAA stuff to Golden? If so, then we can thank this enormous buyout - and corner we're in - at least in part to the UM's, err, creative communication.

On Golden, why would any of us believe he would leave serious money on the table? This cat may never get another chance at a serious HC job and the serious $$$ again.

Because Tim Reynolds is tweeting that fans are planning an attack on his house lol.

He can go corch Tulsa into obscurity, hovering over .500, for the next 35 years on a lifetime contract at $2 mil a pop. His wife and family can live in Oklahoma on a 400 acre plantation.

Why would he not take the next job? He can make $8 mil the hard way or the easy way. Staying here will not be fun. If the BoT wants him gone for real they'll negotiate his buyout with Tulsa.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

So in other words.

The BoT KNOW that there are enough retarded fans that will buy tickets no matter how bad the product on the field is that they just don't give 2 fvcks. Basically "Let them eat cake" to us fans.

Am I missing something?

 

[Muecane]

why would golden give up $8M to go to another school and what school is going to hire him AND pay that buyout?

UM could easily wave that buyout.

 

[ProjectMKUltra5]

why would golden give up $8M to go to another school and what school is going to hire him AND pay that buyout?

My hope:

1. The buyout would be negotiated down significantly, especially since both parties seem to want out.

2. He knows he's a dead man walking here. He can go somewhere and start fresh where his philosophies might go over better.

I'd stay in a West African hospital full of Ebola patients for 8 million dollars, I'm sure Al can handle Coral Gables. Why would he just walk away from that money? What has he done to make you think he would?

 

[OrangetieFatface]

why would golden give up $8M to go to another school and what school is going to hire him AND pay that buyout?

My hope:

1. The buyout would be negotiated down significantly, especially since both parties seem to want out.

2. He knows he's a dead man walking here. He can go somewhere and start fresh where his philosophies might go over better.

I'd stay in a West African hospital full of Ebola patients for 8 million dollars, I'm sure Al can handle Coral Gables. Why would he just walk away from that money? What has he done to make you think he would?

Right, but would you stay in the Ebola hospital for $8 mil when you could make the same amount staying in a best western? Nobody's implying he drops the mic and walks away.

 

[Sonny Long]

Here I am.

I don't care what the admin is feeding publicly. A lot of them know Al sucks a bag of *** and there's a few reasons he is not fired now and hoping to coach linebackers at Purdue.

1. Money. His buyout is 7-8 million dollars and I have been told it's 8. Let me make it perfectly clear that the school has the money and more to burn. They just don't want to spend it.

2. Board of Trustees. Golden still has key supporters on the Board. Their reason for liking him isn't because of potential football reasons, but for public relations purposes and such of that nature. On top of that, there are plenty of Board members who either don't know what football means to the school or just don't care about football in general. Therefore, anything involving 8 million dollar spending better be massively important for academics. There are quite a few Board members who feel exactly like we all do: That Golden is a Jersey hack that couldn't coach the 2001 Hurricanes to a Big East title. Their vehemence is directly related to his lies/excuses and Penn State-gate has not been forgotten or forgiven. Even his most ardent supporters haven't forgotten about it.

3. APR and Graduation Rates. Golden has some of the best in the business. That is worth some leeway to many because they think that'll be attractive to recruits. That's there stupid mistake.

4. Last Year. The school had record braking season ticket sales. While those statistics were skewed because of the UNC/FSU package deal, it appeared that we had stimulated interest in the football team where attendance and revenue was about to swing up. Golden was given a lot of credit for that. They still are cautiously expectant for similar sales and the potential replication of money that could bring.

5. The Cloud. A lot of decision makers are woefully unaware about the Cloud and how important of a role it played. They think he was pulling in talent while up against almost impossible circumstances. Giving Golden another year could result in a team of talent that can just overwhelm teams ala the early Coker years. Once again, that's their own ignorance.

6. The Fans. A lot of the admin don't think the fans and boosters will exodus out. They think it's a bluff and they're calling it. That's going to be their downfall.

7. General Indifference from the admin, students, and fans. Self-explanatory.

He's not getting fired this year. A bowl loss to anybody and a 6-7 final record doesn't change that. But efforts are being made for him to coach somewhere else.

That's a good portion of what information I've got for you. I'll share more when I can.

@pb5cane: I CAN'T BE SHUT DOWN.

APR was great before be got here. Second, 30% of Folden's recruits are no longer on the team.

 

[We'retheBoss]

I've been on various canes boards for a long time, and I think I can safely say that this is the most depressing thing I think I've ever read on one of these. Congratulations, NCAA, you won the war. It wasn't Pell Grants or Ponzi schemers that neutered Miami football, but a penny-pinching, incompetent administration. It's promising to know that people so intelligent, so good at business, are this willing to neglect the one aspect of the school that can get millions upon millions of eyeballs looking at and mouths talking about, your university for 6 months out of the year. It's the ultimate cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

 

[DiegoCane]

So far I've read the buyout is 5 million (Lu) and between 7-8 (Ted) from 2 usually good sources.

Either way its clear the BOT don't give a **** about the fans or the boosters.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

why would golden give up $8M to go to another school and what school is going to hire him AND pay that buyout?

My hope:

1. The buyout would be negotiated down significantly, especially since both parties seem to want out.

2. He knows he's a dead man walking here. He can go somewhere and start fresh where his philosophies might go over better.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

The key is another up north job needs to open up.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Here I am.

I don't care what the admin is feeding publicly. A lot of them know Al sucks a bag of *** and there's a few reasons he is not fired now and hoping to coach linebackers at Purdue.

1. Money. His buyout is 7-8 million dollars and I have been told it's 8. Let me make it perfectly clear that the school has the money and more to burn. They just don't want to spend it.

2. Board of Trustees. Golden still has key supporters on the Board. Their reason for liking him isn't because of potential football reasons, but for public relations purposes and such of that nature. On top of that, there are plenty of Board members who either don't know what football means to the school or just don't care about football in general. Therefore, anything involving 8 million dollar spending better be massively important for academics. There are quite a few Board members who feel exactly like we all do: That Golden is a Jersey hack that couldn't coach the 2001 Hurricanes to a Big East title. Their vehemence is directly related to his lies/excuses and Penn State-gate has not been forgotten or forgiven. Even his most ardent supporters haven't forgotten about it.

3. APR and Graduation Rates. Golden has some of the best in the business. That is worth some leeway to many because they think that'll be attractive to recruits. That's there stupid mistake.

4. Last Year. The school had record braking season ticket sales. While those statistics were skewed because of the UNC/FSU package deal, it appeared that we had stimulated interest in the football team where attendance and revenue was about to swing up. Golden was given a lot of credit for that. They still are cautiously expectant for similar sales and the potential replication of money that could bring.

5. The Cloud. A lot of decision makers are woefully unaware about the Cloud and how important of a role it played. They think he was pulling in talent while up against almost impossible circumstances. Giving Golden another year could result in a team of talent that can just overwhelm teams ala the early Coker years. Once again, that's their own ignorance.

6. The Fans. A lot of the admin don't think the fans and boosters will exodus out. They think it's a bluff and they're calling it. That's going to be their downfall.

7. General Indifference from the admin, students, and fans. Self-explanatory.

He's not getting fired this year. A bowl loss to anybody and a 6-7 final record doesn't change that. But efforts are being made for him to coach somewhere else.

That's a good portion of what information I've got for you. I'll share more when I can.

@pb5cane: I CAN'T BE SHUT DOWN.

APR was great before be got here. Second, 30% of Folden's recruits are no longer on the team.

As far as APR goes, that's true but they are happier with the Golden's face on that accomplishment.

They will not look into that fact and do not care tremendously.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

why would golden give up $8M to go to another school and what school is going to hire him AND pay that buyout?

My hope:

1. The buyout would be negotiated down significantly, especially since both parties seem to want out.

2. He knows he's a dead man walking here. He can go somewhere and start fresh where his philosophies might go over better.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

The key is another up north job needs to open up.

Which job? What administration do we need to pressure to fire their coach?

Is it franklin? Pascataway? SUNY Rhode Island? Boston college?

C'mon, say Boston college, I'll send an email right this minute.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

why would golden give up $8M to go to another school and what school is going to hire him AND pay that buyout?

My hope:

1. The buyout would be negotiated down significantly, especially since both parties seem to want out.

2. He knows he's a dead man walking here. He can go somewhere and start fresh where his philosophies might go over better.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

The key is another up north job needs to open up.

Which job? What administration do we need to pressure to fire their coach?

Is it franklin? Pascataway? SUNY Rhode Island? Boston college?

C'mon, say Boston college, I'll send an email right this minute.

Any up north college that pays decently.

 

[NortheastCane52]

Pure garbage in this thread

 

[passitback]

Pure garbage in this thread

Hey, Al, GFY, bro.