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P-Tizzle said:
Get Grant Newsome and call it a day.
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He can also help to politic the ACC officials.
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gogeta4 said:
who ever is the te coach has to be a "recruiter". so that would be Pata for me.
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If we are going the recruiter route I just hope Mario brings in an assistant TE/Analyst who can coach up the position.

**** bring in Cam McCormick for that. He gots the experience
 
Dr. House said:
Most certainly a good question to ask. I could argue that recruiting is mostly effort and that you're going to get better at it by simply doing it.

Coaching, however, is a different story. You have to know what everyone on offense does and with TEs, you have to be alert on defensive alignments, splits, blocking technique in the run and the pass game whilst still having the player to contribute in the passing game. Not only do you need knowledge in the first place to do that, but you have to be good in transmitting that information and planning the right drills to get the coaching across.

In many ways, it felt like Bauman lost all sorts of confidence in him catching the ball, in particular in traffic, because he never worked on it and was more of a blocker. Loftons disagreements with Woodiel were well known and if you don't see eye to eye with a coach... welp, you're not playing.
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Isn’t this an inherent problem with the portal? We replace by addition but not necessarily with kids on your roster who might lack experience bc of lack of reps and PT. Coaching on Greentree is necessary, but having the players extrapolate that knowledge is more important. Hard to do w/o PT. Which diminishes their ability to gain needed experience.its a catch 22 cycle a makes it seem the portal overshadows HS recruiting. But if anything shows the importance and need to recruit well, it’s Baby Jesus and the other outstanding FR, this past season. Cream rises to the top. Continue to recruit top HS talent, continue to put the time in coaching them up and it will payoff. Ya know there’s a thin line between Love and Hate. Almost as thin as recruiting and the portal. Just sayin’🙌🏽
 
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AlexCane said:
Let me ask you all a question.

With recruiting now somewhat of a fading art with NIL, shouldn't our position coaches be good coaches more so than good recruiters? In the past, I was ok with the opposite-good recruiters even if coaching was mediocre but I think this has shifted. Thoughts?
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this is not remotely the case- at some point the big boys all have fairly big money offers for the market, and isolated cases here or there where someone goes way of market money wise, it again comes right back down to relationships, fit, development and facilities/location.

everything old is new again
 
Brooklyndee said:
& Most importantly we had **** good evaluations and development. Being real we've got a few REALLY good prospects in over the last couple years. But they've regressed outside of anything but inline blockers. Woodiel was a god awful hire and all I want is someone who can bring in value and production from the position again. Alot of that starts with Dawson but I'm not gonna let today become about him. So there's that.
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the thing i love about this sport and boards is you have your take on woodiel that i'm not disputing, i know your background.

on the other hand, ole miss brought him in for both the position group and gave him the co-oc title and he's not to my knowledge an elite recruiter (not saying he isnt good at it per se) so one man's trash another's treasure i guess
 
Ispyin said:
the thing i love about this sport and boards is you have your take on woodiel that i'm not disputing, i know your background.

on the other hand, ole miss brought him in for both the position group and gave him the co-oc title and he's not to my knowledge an elite recruiter (not saying he isnt good at it per se) so one man's trash another's treasure i guess
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One man's trash is definitely another man's treasure. Furthermore if you'd look at the rest of the staff he's put together at Ole Miss so far it would make sense that you'd hire a tight ends coach like that to go with the OC that you already have in the quarterback coach that you have I don't even know the running back coach or the wide receivers coach they hired. But I'll simply leave it at I'm not impressed by anything there doing. If you needed another example of that the bartender had a job too Don't know if he still does. But if so that is most definitely another example. He was getting fired no matter if he got another job or not he didn't leave on his own free will and decide he wanted the same job for Ole Miss.
 
Brooklyndee said:
One man's trash is definitely another man's treasure. Furthermore if you'd look at the rest of the staff he's put together at Ole Miss so far it would make sense that you'd hire a tight ends coach like that to go with the OC that you already have in the quarterback coach that you have I don't even know the running back coach or the wide receivers coach they hired. But I'll simply leave it at I'm not impressed by anything there doing. If you needed another example of that the bartender had a job too Don't know if he still does. But if so that is most definitely another example. He was getting fired no matter if he got another job or not he didn't leave on his own free will and decide he wanted the same job for Ole Miss.
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I thought Mario thought highly of him?
 
MiamiNights1 said:
Miami's weaknesses were exposed in the title game. TE and OC. The game was lost due to those two positions.

That TE is probably the worse player Ive ever seen at miami. Kirby Freeman was bad. Kacy rodgers trash etc etc But this kid cost miami the title. Straight trash.
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Just gonna gloss over Special Teams? Missed kick? Blocked punt for a TD that ended up being the difference?

The only thing that was consistent was Toney’s PR skills
 
TexasCane90 said:
Just gonna gloss over Special Teams? Missed kick? Blocked punt for a TD that ended up being the difference?

The only thing that was consistent was Toney’s PR skills
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Special teams weren’t a major issue this year, though a death blow in championship game. Not sure how a coach is to blame for missing a 50-yd FG or failed punt protection. Coach can’t be blamed for a player’s brain fart or punter going outside his protection (see Lance’s critique).
 
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bacane said:
Special teams weren’t a major issue this year, though a death blow in championship game. Not sure how a coach is to blame for missing a 50-yd FG or failed punt protection. Coach can’t be blamed for a player’s brain fart or punter going outside his protection (see Lance’s critique).
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What about a kick returner who keeps fielding the ball at the 2 and going nowhere with it because theirs no clear course of attack once were in that spot. Just consider the fact Mario was a preseason all American AS A KICK OFF RETURNER... Punt returner also fielding the ball inside the five consistently for what appears to be no reason. No sarge coached special teams unit would make the errors that we've made consistently over the course of the last two years. From Andy's short kicks to how we approach returning and pressure entirely. MARIO HAS HIS HANDS DEEPLY IN THAT APPROACH. But his special teams coach has input he simply keeps to himself...
 
Brooklyndee said:
What about a kick returner who keeps fielding the ball at the 2 and going nowhere with it because theirs no clear course of attack once were in that spot. Just consider the fact Mario was a preseason all American AS A KICK OFF RETURNER... Punt returner also fielding the ball inside the five consistently for what appears to be no reason. No sarge coached special teams unit would make the errors that we've made consistently over the course of the last two years. From Andy's short kicks to how we approach returning and pressure entirely. MARIO HAS HIS HANDS DEEPLY IN THAT APPROACH. But his special teams coach has input he simply keeps to himself...
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To be fair, I saw this happening all over college football this past season. It truly baffles the mind when you see so many of these returners fair catching/returning kicks inside the 10. It feels like it’s transitioned and they’re teaching them to apply this to a kick inside the 5 now instead of the 10 like they used to teach. If you got a freak of nature like Toney or Hester back there I’ll give them a little more leeway, but other than that this would drive me nuts as a HC.
 
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