TE coach

[AlexCane]

Why was Field demoted over Woodiel? I can’t recall.

IIRC, he willingly took a recruiting off-field position.

Not sure if it will happen and/or be long-term, but I wouldn't be surprised for Field to be back on the field.

Though from a purely selfish standpoint, I'd love to see the return of the cannibalistic humanoid underground dweller...

I mentioned this a couple weeks ago on the Woodiel thread. I don't have any inside info, but I happened to chat with Field a couple months ago. He made a comment that--me reading between the lines--sounded like an on-field role wasn't an interest for him. Again, that was me surmising so I could be off.

 

[AlexCane]

Let me ask you all a question.

With recruiting now somewhat of a fading art with NIL, shouldn't our position coaches be good coaches more so than good recruiters? In the past, I was ok with the opposite-good recruiters even if coaching was mediocre but I think this has shifted. Thoughts?

 

[dolemite79]

Hartley has been discussed. I'd like him back. It'll be someone we're familiar with. Good guess would be him or field.

Would he leave UGA tho?

 

[Dr. House]

Let me ask you all a question.

With recruiting now somewhat of a fading art with NIL, shouldn't our position coaches be good coaches more so than good recruiters? In the past, I was ok with the opposite-good recruiters even if coaching was mediocre but I think this has shifted. Thoughts?

Most certainly a good question to ask. I could argue that recruiting is mostly effort and that you're going to get better at it by simply doing it.

Coaching, however, is a different story. You have to know what everyone on offense does and with TEs, you have to be alert on defensive alignments, splits, blocking technique in the run and the pass game whilst still having the player to contribute in the passing game. Not only do you need knowledge in the first place to do that, but you have to be good in transmitting that information and planning the right drills to get the coaching across.

In many ways, it felt like Bauman lost all sorts of confidence in him catching the ball, in particular in traffic, because he never worked on it and was more of a blocker. Loftons disagreements with Woodiel were well known and if you don't see eye to eye with a coach... welp, you're not playing.

 

[Pearson704]

Let me ask you all a question.

With recruiting now somewhat of a fading art with NIL, shouldn't our position coaches be good coaches more so than good recruiters? In the past, I was ok with the opposite-good recruiters even if coaching was mediocre but I think this has shifted. Thoughts?

I think at the HS level recruiting still matters. You have 2 to 3 years recruiting someone before money really takes center stage, right? Money is important, but at some point the market gets set and relationships developed over years of recruiting make the difference.

 

[Trav]

Let me ask you all a question.

With recruiting now somewhat of a fading art with NIL, shouldn't our position coaches be good coaches more so than good recruiters? In the past, I was ok with the opposite-good recruiters even if coaching was mediocre but I think this has shifted. Thoughts?

You need to be able to do both

 

[HTXCane]

Let me ask you all a question.

With recruiting now somewhat of a fading art with NIL, shouldn't our position coaches be good coaches more so than good recruiters? In the past, I was ok with the opposite-good recruiters even if coaching was mediocre but I think this has shifted. Thoughts?

I disagree that recruiting is fading with NIL. Everyone is going to throw money at a recruit. The recruiting effort by the coaches is going to make the difference when money is about the same.

 

[DoctorKrazey]

Bring him home…

 

[mirvin88]

IIRC, he willingly took a recruiting off-field position.

I mentioned this a couple weeks ago on the Woodiel thread. I don't have any inside info, but I happened to chat with Field a couple months ago. He made a comment that--me reading between the lines--sounded like an on-field role wasn't an interest for him. Again, that was me surmising so I could be off.

I still think you need both but if your head guy is Mario I’m ok leaning more towards coaching. HS still matters for roster building, but transfers/NIL is mostly a money game.

If your HC is Norvell, you need recruiters over coaches. IMO

 

[JayCane20]

It needs to be Ed Pata. Do not over complicate it.

 

[edge]

Is Coley still using google glasses?

 

[Gables Cane]

It needs to be Ed Pata. Do not over complicate it.

Thoughts on Pata as a TE coach?

Also, are TE coaches essentially former OL coaches who transition to TE? Not sure how nuanced the role is…

 

[E1k]

You need to be able to do both

This. We shouldn’t be choosing between the two

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Why was Field demoted over Woodiel? I can’t recall.

It wasn't a "demotion", it's just that Mario was bringing Woodiel with him from Oregon. They liked Field enough to create a position for him off-field.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

IIRC, he willingly took a recruiting off-field position.

I mentioned this a couple weeks ago on the Woodiel thread. I don't have any inside info, but I happened to chat with Field a couple months ago. He made a comment that--me reading between the lines--sounded like an on-field role wasn't an interest for him. Again, that was me surmising so I could be off.

I think he does like the off-field role a lot, but sometimes you do what the big man needs you to do.

We shall see. I think that if Field says "no", then the other names come into play.

 

[Highline17]

If Miami not going to utilize a TE and an offense why even bother, special teams coach way more important right now

I agree, I’d prefer a guy who can do both tho. Special teams is obviously one of the biggest holes in our staff.

Mario always had a experienced special teams / TE coach in Oregon with Bobby Williams, I see no reason we can’t replicate that there.

I personally don’t see a huge advantage in adding back Pata, he’s a great dude, but we already have the blocking talent on staff with Mario/ Mirabel. I’d rather get a guy who can primarily focus on Special teams, but can also help run TE.

In baseball terms
Woodiel: -1 WAR
Coley: 0 WAR
Pata: .5 WAR
Joint STC/ TE: 2 WAR

 

[Hstokes1447]

There is no way it will be Coley. If Mario just wanted a recruiter and not someone who could actually develop the tight ends, he wouldn’t have fired Woodiel

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Let me ask you all a question.

With recruiting now somewhat of a fading art with NIL, shouldn't our position coaches be good coaches more so than good recruiters? In the past, I was ok with the opposite-good recruiters even if coaching was mediocre but I think this has shifted. Thoughts?

TE coach doesn’t need to be a great coach. They can be more relationship guys on the recruiting side. We have a legit teachers at O line and WR coach so they can handle what needs to be “coached.”

We desperately need a ST coach. We’ve been bad for far too long. And it just cost us a national title. Hire a ST savant and and give him TE coach title.

 

[who]

Maybe Jeremy Shockey or Greg Olsen or Jimmy Graham.

 

[stormsurge]

Get Bubba Franks and Bubba Bean as co-coaches. We'd have franks and beans then.