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- May 19, 2018
The NCAA should have got out ahead of this a long time ago. Their hubris and arrogance will be their demise.
This is a complicated issue and should not be rushed. Football and men’s basketball are generally the only profitable sports. Using these anomalies of college athletics as a blanket rule setter for all sports is wrong and stupid.
A super division or conference of elite revenue programs was always inevitable. There needs to be some rules in place for revenue sharing and similar limitations (salary cap) to keep the sport balanced. There is a lot to work out. Programs that care about winning shouldn’t be punished for their commitment but it shouldn’t be the Wild West either.
The sport is going to change drastically, and it is the fault of the NCAA and the Universities.
They could have avoided this with larger stipends and allowing players to generate their own income with the school’s help with NIL. The larger schools kick in to help keep the smaller revenue schools more competitive. This is not charity. If you go to a 32 team elite division, the records will look like the NFL. Imagine blue blood programs winning 1,2, or 3 games for a few years in row.
The greed is going to turn college football into something it never had to be and it could have been avoided with common sense and a touch of fairness.
The last part of ur statement is spot on.
However, this is y I hate when political figures involve themselves in non political matters.
The NCAA is a governing body over most collegiate sports; that includes WOMEN sports. Women sports are not profitable, like at all. The reason I asked if anyone seen the documentary “Operation Varsity Blues” was b/c it wasn’t just about rich parents tainting the system to get their kids in, but it was b/c of how they did it. These parents donated big time funds to the AD, AND snuck their kids on to “walk on” spots of these non-revenue generated sports b/c they went under the radar.
Guess what I learned; damn near every single sport outside of men’s b-ball & CFB is in the red. But here’s the thing; as Title IX surges & girls wanting equal rights...is the gov’t considering them getting NILs & compensation even though their sports are costing the schools money? Are we saying the men shouldn’t be considered amateurs, but the girls are? And if that’s the case....holy chit, the backlash.
I agree reform needs to happen w/ student athletes, maybe on some tier rate, but I simply hate when politicians stick their nose in chit that’s outside of their scope.
Thomas is talking because of the new format. His silence was mainly to not participate in non stop interruptions. Now they go in order and he bats in the 2 hole.From the oral arguments today, it seems like the justices are going to rule for the players. They were very skeptical of the NCAA's arguments, but also weighed the implications about what this could mean for amateur sports. Even Clarence Thomas, who is known to rarely speak in oral arguments and once went years without speaking in one, was very critical of the NCAA's argument that players should remain amateurs because of the financial cost of supporting them. He argued if that really was the case, then the exorbitant increase in coaching salaries shouldn't be feasible.
Personally, I think Miami is in a better situation than most schools to benefit. You have to remember that most P5 schools, despite their large fanbases, are not located in large markets with Fortune 500 companies ready to use players as marketing tools. Why go to some SEC school and make money from being in some regional food chain's ad campaign when you have numerous banks, cruise lines, and tourist operations just waiting to make money in Miami?
That’s one reason it could be a mess,because of politics. Non revenue generating sports, whether men or women, should not get the same compensation. It’s easy to determine who is bringing in money and should be paid.
The beauty is the fairness. If women’s soccer or men’s crew want to get more, they need butts in the seats and eyes on the tube. The current system is an extension of slavery. A bunch of mostly white kids getting free educations off revenue generated by mostly black kids. I often think this fueled the hubris in propping up shamateurism way past it’s expiration.
All athletes should have NIL without interference in their personal revenue generating activities.
Still It gets murky because every football team and men’s b-ball team does not make a profit but you can argue their presence bolsters the sport. There is much to weed through.
I think you’re underestimating woke culture. There will be a bill introduced to pay women if they find a way to not pay them. If that doesn’t work they will have corporate sponsors put pressure on the NCAA as well. IMO eventually the tax payers will be footing the bill.They will work it out.
College football and men’s basketball are REAL MONEY. Feminism gets a lot of attention, but when REAL MONEY is on the table it always takes a back seat. Notice WNBA players get a lot of press on ESPN, but nothing has changed because the league loses money.
Feminism is allowed to get its attention as long as it doesn’t interfere with the moneyed interest.
They will figure it all out.
I think you’re underestimating woke culture. There will be a bill introduced to pay women if they find a way to not pay them. If that doesn’t work they will have corporate sponsors put pressure on the NCAA as well. IMO eventually the tax payers will be footing the bill.
They just got MLB to move the All Star game based off of lies. They are now coming after the Masters and trying to get CBS to back out of their coverage. Don’t forget a second think they won’t come for college sports.I don’t see it.
There will be noise for sure, but there won’t be much anyone can do when you see how far in the red all the other sports (men or women) are.
The major programs might just supplement the system to avoid hassle, but it won’t mean much for non revenue sports/ schools.
I’m not even sure how they decide how much to pay football and men’s basketball and do all players and schools have the same salary? Do they get agents and negotiate?
The WNBA noise is just that and won’t get anywhere. There is nothing more fair than tv ratings and ticket sales. That fact will prevail over the noise. I am just extremely interested to find out what system they decide to roll out as the first iteration of pay for play and how many schools / sports get included or left behind.