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Superbowl/Wade Phillips proves point about using motion on offense.

Edelman is in motion nearly every play, getting into a stack formation. This creates a free release on the option routes. To think motion doesn’t work that’s just plain ignorance.
 
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Canezum5 said:
We've had so many debates on here about motion or lack thereof. It was refreshing to see Wade Phillips/belicheck show us why having a bunch of motions does not help Qbs all that much in modern football. Some of you think defenses can be tipped off for man or zone coverage using motion and that hasnt been true in years.

BOTH Wade and Bill would have a man following Edelman/Cooks in motion only to be playing zone behind it. Both QBs struggled reading the defenses because of it.

Of all the sucky aspects of Richts offense.. the lack of motion wasnt the issue. Im excited to see what Enos employs and if his motions are used for playcalls and matchup advantages or to try and read the defenses.
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You can't be serious.

The Pats used motion almost every play every game. The Rams were showing man and going into zone at the last second. That's way the Pats and Brady had issues. The Pats use motion more than any other team.

It is stupid to think you do not need motion because the Rams were making it tough to read. How else are you going to read the D.
 
Canezum5 said:
We've had so many debates on here about motion or lack thereof. It was refreshing to see Wade Phillips/belicheck show us why having a bunch of motions does not help Qbs all that much in modern football. Some of you think defenses can be tipped off for man or zone coverage using motion and that hasnt been true in years.

BOTH Wade and Bill would have a man following Edelman/Cooks in motion only to be playing zone behind it. Both QBs struggled reading the defenses because of it.

Of all the sucky aspects of Richts offense.. the lack of motion wasnt the issue. Im excited to see what Enos employs and if his motions are used for playcalls and matchup advantages or to try and read the defenses.
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What is the reason pro offensive coordinators use motion?
 
There is no substitute for a dominant oline.
Nothing is more disruptive than penetration. I hate the pats. But that defense was insane last night.
 
Canezum5 said:
We've had so many debates on here about motion or lack thereof. It was refreshing to see Wade Phillips/belicheck show us why having a bunch of motions does not help Qbs all that much in modern football. Some of you think defenses can be tipped off for man or zone coverage using motion and that hasnt been true in years.

BOTH Wade and Bill would have a man following Edelman/Cooks in motion only to be playing zone behind it. Both QBs struggled reading the defenses because of it.

Of all the sucky aspects of Richts offense.. the lack of motion wasnt the issue. Im excited to see what Enos employs and if his motions are used for playcalls and matchup advantages or to try and read the defenses.
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Yet it was a motion play that set up the big play to Gronk that eventually led to the winning TD cmon man
 
Coach Macho said:
That's not true. Patriots murdered KC's defense with motion.
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Ok. The Patriots murder a lot of NFL teams with various looks and game plan variations. The comp to college kids is a bit of a stretch to say the least. The guy who used the same system for 30yrs is the anti-Belichek.

Go Canes!
 
I'm believe in multiple sets and motion (short, back motion and across formation). Multitude of sets and plays like counter tre, trips tight and wide, TE Traps, 2 back dual flares, WR and RB screens, RB split out, rb off set seam route and 2 TE sets. FYI, I ran all these formations in youth football. When you run at least 2 plays from each set/formation it prevents defenses from knowing what to expect. Also pace! Can't be slow about getting personnel on the field and calling plays. I thought Richt called plays too slow and the pace was even slower.
 
I think the Patriots could have done a better job of defending the Motion of Cornwallace at Bunker Hill, just sayin🇬🇧
 
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JHallCanes said:
What a bizarre thread.

Did anyone ever say that motion would be our saving grace?

No.

Did everyone basically say “can we see some ******* motion please?”

In response to the fact defenses clearly could see what was coming.

Yes.

So you make the leap to suddenly compare 100+ schools made up of teenagers to the two greatest collections of football players and coaches on the planet?

Go to sleep.
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Youre better than this JHall.

Its almost as if youre taking this personal.

Would you like me to tag you in the hundreds of posts where posters have said that motion would tip off the defense? this is what the post is about. Not about people who ask for more motion but the ones who ask for more motion because it tips off coverage and helps QBs read defenses,

What does the latter part of your post even mean?

It has nothing to do with my point. Those schools still employ coaches that have been in the NFL and vice versa. Meaning a NFL coach now in college will employ these same tactics on his college team.

So i don't get that part of your post.

we've literally never had an issue. Why now?

Dont be an ***.
 
tinman_96 said:
Edelman is in motion nearly every play, getting into a stack formation. This creates a free release on the option routes. To think motion doesn’t work that’s just plain ignorance.
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Motion does work in preventing bump and run and creating mismatches, it does not have the same effect in reading coverages.

Do you guys read? i never said anything about motion not working.
 
miamicanephins said:
Motion does more than just help qb's read defenses, it also can get the defense out of position and it creates mismatches.

Last night's game was a poor example.
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I saw in many cases that it was a great example. I watched Edelman use his motion to gain leverage on the DB on numerous occasions. It was even pointed out by Romo at one time.
 
Football is always knowing what keys your opponents go off and doing something to throw them off.
 
Plzwork4 said:
I saw in many cases that it was a great example. I watched Edelman use his motion to gain leverage on the DB on numerous occasions. It was even pointed out by Romo at one time.
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I agree. The last night's game comment was directed to the op who was trying to suggest motion didn't work, when clearly it did.

Poorly written on my part
 
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NE Canes said:
You can't be serious.

The Pats used motion almost every play every game. The Rams were showing man and going into zone at the last second. That's way the Pats and Brady had issues. The Pats use motion more than any other team.

It is stupid to think you do not need motion because the Rams were making it tough to read. How else are you going to read the D.
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Who said you don't need motion? I said you don't need motion to read the coverage. BOTH TEAMS were making it tough to read, presnap.

How else are you going to read the D?

The same way the greats do, POST SNAP.
 
miamicanephins said:
I agree. The last night's game comment was directed to the op who was trying to suggest motion didn't work, when clearly it did.

Poorly written on my part
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Please show me where i suggested motion didn't work?

I said it doesn't allow you to dictate the coverage. Which is true because both QBs struggled to read the defenses presnap despite both teams using tons of motion.

Both qbs could've easily thrown 2 ints a piece if defenders had some **** hands.

A lot of NFL teams use this strategy. Titans crushed Brady doing this as well.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Great point!! To win the NC we need to go back to 2 runs up the gut followed by 4 verts!! That is the winning recipe.
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Another silly post just to boost post count. None of what you said has anything to do with my post.

Take Richts Pipe out of your mouth.

This is not a post in defense of Mark. Its a post that exposes the FACT that you cant use motion to find out if a defense is in man or zone these days. Dont bend the narrative, please.

Id love for UM to use stack and motion ot more. I just want to rid people of the thought that we need it to help our QBs read defenses.

Yall hate Richt so **** much yall losing comprehension ability.
 
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