Stewart Mandel projects that we get in under one scenario only

[canesigep23]

We should be ahead of Bama. They are getting away with getting smoked by FSU. The SEC created a circle jerk where beating teams like Mizzou and Tennessee and even LSU are looked at as some monumental task, when none of these teams have beaten any serious team. These teams are the same as SMU, UL , UVA and Pitt. But are looked at like they are UGA level. I really want us to get in because we are built for these games. More so than for playing teams we out talent. These are trenches battles.

Yep. Saban said it best a couple of weeks ago on Gameday when he was asked what should be valued more “a quality win or a bad loss”. He basically said that it’s very difficult to maintain a team consistent throughout an entire season, and slip ups unfortunately happen. But to him, quality wins are a better indicator because it shows how good that team is at its best. Which is what the playoffs should be about.

Essentially, it illustrates potential for a team to perform at its best, and you want the absolute best level of competition in the postseason. To put it more directly, why penalize a team for not getting up for a lowly ranked team when the postseason is entirely comprised of teams that the best will most certainly show up for.

 

[Canes Legacy]

And it’s the 1% that’s killing us all. This should have ended last week.

Here’s a hot take that most Miami fans will disagree with.

If the committee finally decides to flip Miami and ND, on the one week where they didn’t play after all the nonsense the committee has spewed, is a tremendous disservice to ND and the rankings process as a whole (although they clearly don’t care about that).

The story would be ND gets screwed.

 

[canesigep23]

I have a hard time believing that a committee comprised of these folks are going to do right by Miami:

 

[aelmiami]

Obviously this year is completely different and it might have been specific to a team last year. They make things up as they go along, so who knows.

I agree. I don’t think the committee has a freaking clue what they are doing.

That would be the blanket idea I’d have if I was running the committee. If you’re already out of the playoff picture losing and moving from 11 to 12 is inconsequential imo. And a lot of these conferences have 16 teams now. So you have a 1/8 chance to make the game. Teams outside the projected cut line should be reevaluated regardless if they won, lost or didn’t play. I’d have the same belief if it was us vs UVA tomorrow and we lost.

 

[canesstevealum08]

What about this other scenario I keep hearing people like Pate discuss regarding a Duke win over Virginia? The theory being, if Duke wins they obviously won’t put them in, but the committee doesn’t want the black eye of a conference getting completely left out so they would basically be forced to put Miami in at that point. Do you think there’s any merit to this?

Yes!

 

[IrishFan]

Here’s a hot take that most Miami fans will disagree with.

If the committee finally decides to flip Miami and ND, on the one week where they didn’t play after all the nonsense the committee has spewed, is a tremendous disservice to ND and the rankings process as a whole (although they clearly don’t care about that).

The story would be ND gets screwed.

Agree and public sympathy won’t be with ND so how ridiculous it is will get glossed over for the most part. It would be absurd for Miami to pass ND now. It should have happened last week. We already know the committee is a farce anyway though.

 

[canesstevealum08]

I seem to recall the committee saying some time back that a conference championship loss isn't taken into account. Have3 they said anything lately regarding that?

I think people misinterpreted this I believe that to mean that they won’t be out of the CFP if they’re not on the bubble, but I would content that is on the bubble just like BYU is and they’ve dropped teams from their ranking after conference championship games before so I don’t know why people believe this

 

[aelmiami]

Here’s a hot take that most Miami fans will disagree with.

If the committee finally decides to flip Miami and ND, on the one week where they didn’t play after all the nonsense the committee has spewed, is a tremendous disservice to ND and the rankings process as a whole (although they clearly don’t care about that).

The story would be ND gets screwed.

You could make a pretty solid argument for Miami & ND to be in over OU & Bama. No matter how it shakes out, a team that could legitimately win the whole **** thing will be left out in favor of a vastly flawed SEC team because of the patch they were on their jerseys.

 

[Tony4Canes]

Anything new in this vs the other 50 scenario threads?!?

 

[CorniceCane]

This was over on Tuesday, regardless of what happens this weekend (although I wonder how a Bama team that gets beat badly by UGA would be ranked ahead of us). They moved Bama up a spot (despite a 1 TD win versus a very poor 5-7 Auburn team with its only conference win being Arkansas and the other 4 wins being AWFUL teams) in place of ND. It’s clear that they are protecting Bama to the greatest degree possible.

The reality is that if they really wanted to use non-biased data, we would have been placed at 10, ahead of ND. Instead, our fate has been sealed. Unless they receive pressure from a superior body, they aren’t going to change their collective opinion.

And the talk has mirrored that with the continuing of changing the criteria; need to be in the same grouping, to need to be consecutively ranked, for considering head-to-head over ND. The reality is that we are cooked! I would be incredibly and pleasantly shocked if we found our way in after this weekend.

 

[Sabetta]

Mandel had an article today in the athletic projecting the CFP in 4 possible outcomes of the SEC and Big 12 championships. One scenario gets us in:

BYU loss

Bama win

Despite many people’s thoughts, we can’t afford a Bama loss. If BYU loses and Bama loses, Bama falls to 10 and ND rises to 9. That protects them from a back to back ranking comparison with us.

If BYU wins obviously Miami and ND are both out.

College Football Playoff scenarios: How to root for controversy and chaos on championship weekend

Championship weekend could deliver chaos. Here's how each scenario could change the field.

www.nytimes.com

It's so ridiculously absurd that it boggles the mind. And the manipulation in broad daylight is wild

 

[Hurracanes]

I have a hard time believing that a committee comprised of these folks are going to do right by Miami:

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I lose faith in humanity when I see old white people making decisions that impacts the rest of us.

 

[arwinga]

I have a hard time believing that a committee comprised of these folks are going to do right by Miami:

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I agree, I actually think the perfect scenario of BYU losing and bama winning could happen and they still will rank ND over us. They will say we just feel that ND is a better team and they have changed so much from a narrow week 1 loss to us

 

[major kong]

I lose faith in humanity when I see old white people making decisions that impacts the rest of us.

As an old white person, I completely agree.

 

[major kong]

If Bama loses by ~20 pts or more, I cannot see how even this idiot committee puts in a three loss team that just got stomped.

 

[Calinative]

Another path: Duke Win, JMU Loss, BYU loss. Then I believe an extra at large bid is born because the second group of 5 team (Troy or winner of Bosie St/UNLV won’t be ranked.

Duke would just be in. Duke likely jump JMU by beating UVA regardless. At end of day that's far superior to anything JMU has done

 

[LMCane]

Mandel had an article today in the athletic projecting the CFP in 4 possible outcomes of the SEC and Big 12 championships. One scenario gets us in:

BYU loss

Bama win

Despite many people’s thoughts, we can’t afford a Bama loss. If BYU loses and Bama loses, Bama falls to 10 and ND rises to 9. That protects them from a back to back ranking comparison with us.

If BYU wins obviously Miami and ND are both out.

College Football Playoff scenarios: How to root for controversy and chaos on championship weekend

Championship weekend could deliver chaos. Here's how each scenario could change the field.

www.nytimes.com

this is the best way

bama wins and BYU loses

or if Bama wins then BYU wins to keep out Notre Dame