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game is diff and our O scheme is diff now and then. either way, there's no doubt TVD is insanely more talented than Ken. no one will argue that. physical talent isn't what made KD great tho.
 
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It's not that surprising at all. More of you should go back and watch some of our classic games. Sometimes I hear complaints about current quarterback play and then endless lauding for guys like Erickson and Walsh and Torreta. There were stretches in big games were those guys looked atrocious. They had a tendency to make the biggest plays in the biggest games, but when you look at the final stat lines of a lot of those games, including the big FSU wins and the national championships, they're often really pedestrian, if not mediocre. People don't realize that having a dominating defense turns the magnification down on mistakes and offensive stagnation a ton. We don't have that so there's so little margin for error that anytime our quarterback makes a bad play or a running back fumbles it's catastrophic.
 
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hoops156 said:
game is diff and our O scheme is diff now and then. either way, there's no doubt TVD is insanely more talented than Ken. no one will argue that. physical talent isn't what made KD great tho.
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KD also had Portis, who rushed for 1200 yards, and an amazing OL. That offense was more balanced than Lashlee's.

If TVD had Portis and the o-line that KD had--put it this way, McKinnie got Heisman votes--perhaps his passing numbers wouldn't be so off the charts since he wouldn't need to throw as much.
 
EmilioEstevez said:
KD also had Portis, who rushed for 1200 yards, and an amazing OL. That offense was more balanced than Lashlee's.

If TVD had Portis and the o-line that KD had--put it this way, McKinnie got Heisman votes--perhaps his passing numbers wouldn't be so off the charts since he wouldn't need to throw as much.
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If TVD had that support from a run game and OL his numbers could possibly be even better. Defense could not cheat knowing we have no run threat and make it much easier for receivers to be open. TVD has much stronger arm also. We will never know because it is what it is
 
Cracking Up Lol GIF by HULU

Just kidding KW, had to throw that name in there though..
 
swampcougar1 said:
If TVD had that support from a run game and OL his numbers could possibly be even better. Defense could not cheat knowing we have no run threat and make it much easier for receivers to be open. TVD has much stronger arm also. We will never know because it is what it is
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Maybe, maybe not. He'd have less attempts and therefore less impressive overall numbers.
 
1. Finding an AD.

2. Finding a HC.

3. Making sure TVD is properly nurtured. So many times we had players burst on to the scene and the stall or regress the following season.
 
Can an argument be made that the 2021 WR corp is better than the 2001 corp? (Is the 2021 WR corp is deeper?)


The difference in talent between the two teams RB & OL is where the answer to OP's riddle likely resides.
 
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SFbayCane said:
Can an argument be made that the 2021 WR corp is better than the 2001 corp? (Is the 2021 WR corp is deeper?)


The difference in talent between the two teams RB & OL is where the answer to OP's riddle likely resides.
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There's no Dre in this group. As good as Rambo has been, he's not that.
 
JD08 said:
Nothing really surprises me any more after CJ Henderson going as the number 9 pick.
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I get Henderson a little bit. Dude has a lot of tools. Pickett seems like a throwback to Kipers infatuation with Jimmy Clausen. Just one of those dudes who to me peaks in college.
 
Dorsey has a great OL, and NFL receivers. We also run the ball more/ better back them

TDV is the goods regardless of comparison
 
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